I'd love to see people's opinions of our current players and their views for the future, so
Draw up Carlton's next premiership team.

Ok, the rules.
Must include a starting 18, interchange, a coach if desired and three emergency players.
Must specify time of next premiership.
Must have a short explanatory paragraph. Please be brief.

You get what I mean, yeah? I'm not doing mine now, I might a bit later.

OK,I'll give it a go.

B- Anderson-Hartlett-Thorton

HB-Bower-Setanta-Carrazzo

C-Simpson-Gibbs-Waite(vc)

HF-Grigg-Kennedy-DAL SANTO

F-Fisher-Fev-Edwards

R-Hampson-WALKER(c)-Murphy


INT-Aisake,Russell,Benjammin,COTCHIN


EMERG-Austin,Jacobs,Betts,Scotland


Year-2011

COACH-ONE OF-SOS,VOSS,or RATTS

Can't really predict who we'll draft thats why i've gone with players on the current list who i think will still be around.
I put in Dal Santo,because i think the Swan,Pratt team will lure one big name to the club.We owe the Saints one for Hammil.

Cotchin,just a guess.


Coach,to hard to choose.

Love WALKER as capt.(the next Judd)

Tall side,but i think Setanta & Aisake will have revolutionalized AFL in 4 years,with their speed and agility.Impossible to match up on.

Am i dreaming?
wouldn't mind this side now

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I haven't included 25 yo and older players as I expect the flag to be won in 2010-11.



Here's my under 24 team:

B:.......Anderson.....Jamieson....Hartlett

HB:.....Thornton......Setanta......Bower

C: ......Grigg...........Murphy.......Benjamin

HF: ....Simpson.......Waite..........Fisher

F: .......Gibbs...........Kennedy.......Hampson

FOLL: .Aisake.......Walker.........Carrazzo

INT....Jacobs/ Kruezner/Leuenberger...Russell...Austin....Bentick

EMERG: Flint....Edwards...Raso.....

Probable changes:

I haven't accounted for 1st round draftees in 2007, 2008 and 2009 or any trades; trades are welcome....Leuenberger should be back at his spiritual home by then, and add a couple of speedsters ...they could overtake Bentick and Carrazzo. I suspect that Bower and Benjamin are candidates that may be overtaken by others listed on the bench/emerg or new draftees.

Out of the picture:

I can't see Betts, Blackwell, Jackson, Young, Cloke and Bannister (all under 24) making this team in 2010-11.

Outside chance:

possible inclusion of Fevola (29-30 yo), Stevens and Scotland (30-31 yo)

Coach:

?????? Ratten ???????.......perhaps.

Hampson and Aisake are ver agile and athletic types. If Kruezner or Leuenberger (who are aglile and athletic) are listed then the 3 ruckmen/ ruck rovers can rotate...they create great mismatches for the opposition.

Focus:

Tall, fast, agile and strong, with a couple of fast small midfielders like Murphy and Simpson. plus 3 agile tall fast and versatile ruckmen.

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Flag year - 2010

B J. Anderson S.O'hAipin B.Thornton
HB H.Scotland A.Hartlett S.Grigg
C K.Simpson M.Murphy (C)A.Walker
HF N.Stevens J.Kennedy J.Waite
F A.Maaric B.Fevola B.Fisher
OB S.Hampson B.Gibbs (VC) T.Cotchin
I/C Aisake A.Carrazzo E.Betts C.Benjamin

Coach - Ratten/Voss/Buckley

Obviously the real team won't look like that as we will have more draftees from 08/09. I've taken a guess at this years draftees and put in the two guys we would draft in the 1st and 2nd rounds in my dream scenario (Cotchin and Maaric).

In this mtach Waite will rotate between wing and half-foward, while Cotchin and Stevens will rotate between on-ball and half foward.

Also in that year I predict that M.Murphy, B.Gibbs, J.Waite, B.Fevola and T.Cotchin will win All Australian honours. M.Murphy will also win the brownlow with 23 votes with Gibbsy a close second with 19 votes. Waite and Cotchin will both poll 15 votes.

Bryce will also win the Norm Smith for an outstanding performance in which he accumulates 33 possesions (20 kicks, 13 handballs), 7 marks, 10 clearances, 6 tackles and kicks 4 goals. Waite will be an unlucky runner up with 23 touches and 6 goals.

That year we will also only lose one game to Hawthorn who will end up grand finalists and score on average 120 points while conceding 80.

Our Goal kicking table will look like this:

B.Fevola - 70
J.Kennedy -51
J.Waite - 50
A.Maaric - 38
T.Cotchin/B.Fisher - 33

Average disposal will look like this:

M.Murphy - 26.5
B.Gibbs - 25.8
T.Cotchin - 23.6
N.Stevens - 23.3
A.Walker - 22.8
J.Waite - 22.4



now back to reality

I prefer your timewarp

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Carlton - Nothing's changed
I still love you, oh, I still love you
Only slightly, only slightly less
Than I used to, my love

Mock Premiership Team - Sheffield United.

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Congratulations CK95

Just picking from our current squad:

B Anderson, Austin, Thornton
HB S. O'hAilpin, Hartlett, Russell
C Carrazzo, Walker, Simpson
HF Grigg, Kennedy, Fisher
F Waite, Fevola, Betts
R A. O'hAilpin, Murphy, Gibbs
In: Bentick, Stevens, Blackwell, Bower
Emg: Hampson, Benjamin, Houlihan

Premiership 2013

Our defence has serious issues and there's a lot of hope in my selected team that the kids I've selected for our defense will step up and make it. Anderson looks like a likely type, Thornton is class as we all know and Setanta O'hAilpin can be thrown into defense if we need him.

WestHam

... back to Carlton:

Team:
B: Anderson, Austin, Thornton
HB: Scotland, Hartlett, Russell
C: Walker, Gibbs, Simmo
HF: Grigg, Kennedy, Fisher
F: Betts, Fevola, Waite

Rck: Jacobs, Stevens, Murphy

Int: Cotchin, Carlos, Aisake, Carrazzo

Coach: TBC

Year: 2010

Notes: Cotchin or Kreuzer are the only draft picks I'd be certain of claiming this year. Still think Melbourne will finish above us. With players from the 2008/2009 crop to come I would have doubts on Carrazzo, Betts, Hartlett, Carlos making the cut. Hampon may sneak in ahead of Jacobs.

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Mjonc signing off at 8888

2010/11

Current list only

B. Anderson Hartlett Thornton
HB. Russell Austin Bower
C. Benjamin Gibbs Grigg
HF. Simpson Waite Fisher
F. Betts Fevola Kennedy
R. Hampson Walker
Rov. Murphy

i/c (from) S.o'Hailpin, A.o'Hailpin, Carazzo, Blackwell, Edwards, Jacobs

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Johnny Howard - time to go!

CARLTON PREMIERSHIP TEAM 2011

COACH: VOSS
CAPTAIN: GIBBS

FB: BOWER SANTA KENNEDY

HB:ANDERSON HARTLETT SCOTLAND

C: COTCHIN GIBBS GRIGG

HF:FISHER WAITE SIMPSON

FF:CLOKE FEVOLA DEL SANTO

R:HAMPSON WALKER MURPHY

INT:RUSSELL, AISAKE, BENJAMIN, CARRAZZO

BROWNLOW: GIBBS (25 VOTES)

NORM SMITH: WALKER

B & F: MURPHY

SCORELINE:

CARLTON: 18 . 11 : 119
HAWTHORN: 15 . 10 : 100

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They coud'nt.....could they?

You know something we don't Bondi . . ?

titimus wrote



Back last year before the draft, a learned scholar of AFL, Brizzie Blue posted an interesting note on a conversation that included Leuenberger who was at the time hoping to get to Carlton because he is a mad Blues supporter and would love to help dig 'em out of the bottom of the ladder. But he understood why Gibbs should be picked before him. The rest of the story suggests that he believes he will still get to Carlton once he serves his minimum 2 year apprenticeship with the Lions.

And Brizzie wasn't joking.

I love the thought of it, and have kept my hopes high it happens at the end of the 2008 season; just 15 months away. Of course seeing is believing, and we must plan on him not coming over as we hope.

Imagine:

Very tall athletic and very fast players (ruck-ruck rover freaks)....lots of them......the mismatch trump card.

Aisake 202
Hampson 202
Leuenberger 203
Kruezner 201
Setanta 199
Waite 194

To compliment our mobile talls:

Kennedy 198
Hartlett 196
Jamieson 195
Austin 195
Bower 193

And fast mobile talls:

Thornton 192
Edwards 192
Fevola 191
Fisher 191
Walker 190
Benjamin 190
Grigg 190

Deliciously fast and tall

Only 3 spots left if they're all in the 22...lets see...Murphy, Gibbs and...Stevens/ Carrazzo/ Scotland/ Simpson/ Anderson/ Russell?

So Leuey and Kruezner would be a perfect fit and hold us in good stead for the 2009-2010 assault, and that dynasty would rule for a decade

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Our team of superhuman athletes will scare opposition and revolutionise football - assuming it works. If it doesn't we'll be just a tad unbalanced.

Leeds United...once upon a time. *sigh*

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Mens sana in corpore sano.

Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!

My alternate team,just in case Pagan is still coach

B -HOULIHAN(C)-MARTYN(lured from retirement)-TEAGUE

HB-NORMAN-ANGWIN-ZANTUCK (all redrafted)

C-YOUNG-BLACKWELL-BENTICK (the clones)

HF-DIDAK-HEADLAND-COUSINS (reject criminals)

F-MILNE-GEHRIG-HAMMIL (saints turn to give us washed up crap!)

R-EVERITT(6th club)-AKER-P.BELL(vc)

INT- McCLAREN,BETTS,BANNISTER,WIGGINS (heart&soul of CFC)

Fantastic BOG,by Ryan Houlihan,the Blues fearless warrior like leader in
his 400th AFL match.
He reached the league record of 10,000 loose ball gets (surpassing vc Peter Bell) and laid his 50th career tackle.

Coach Denis Pagan was quoted as saying -"Gee, there's blue skies ahead
for the Carlton football club"

Despite our success-Tom Elliot (President) was disappointed with the
membership figure of 60,000-saying the Pies were a real threat with 32,000 members!

PIGS ARSE!

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I see you watching me watching you.

I recall that conversation -- I actually thought it was you who originally made that statement.

Hard to believe that it's not pie in the sky stuff though.

A lot is often said about high draft picks and teams that they originally barracked for. In the professional and highly paid world of AFL Footballers though you'd have to be pretty bloody determined - and passionate about the club - to get to the club that you supported as a child. And you'd just about have to be prepared to burn the current club to get there too.

Hasn't happened yet and I can't see it happening really.

Although one can hope

Nah, it wasn't me...I'm the one that wont forget the possibility...and dream of the day it happens.

titimus wrote



And that's the reality of the situation.

Passion is something not to consider lightly.

I'm sure the Lions are aware of his background and would be brain washing him as we speak.

Whilst the possibility exists, the dream will exist.

The ball is in our court (today and everday for the next 15 months).

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Love your optimism-Goddard was a life long blue boy too.He aint coming back!

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I see you watching me watching you.

It is 2023

B Silvagni.....Silvagni....Sheahan
HB Tully....Koutifides.....Smith
C Mcintosh...Agrojunior (c).....Jones
HF Lopez.....Muhammed....Nguni
F Nguyen...Silvagni.... O'Boru
R. Masai.....Chiu....Xchlminc

Res. Krlc....Sputin.....Chen....Brown

Coach Silvagni

We win on the back of the ruckman, Masai, the first African player drafted direct from the desert by Hughes and who at 237 cm is also the tallest player ever to don the navy blue.
After each centre bounce, he runs to FB and stands between the posts, preventing any goals from being kicked from outside 40 metres.
Just as probable as any of the other posts. And should be taken just as seriously.
Predicting the future is fraught with pitfalls. Let's get over this year first.

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Mark J wrote



No one wanted to come to Carlton between 2003 and 2007; it was a tarnished brand.

Now we have the Pratt era...anything can happen.....only way to be is optimistic, as I have experienced many positives for Carlton from his first year.

Swan
Icke
Training facilities
revenue from private proceeds
record memberships
great young list

...........we're going places....the right ones at that...........

Princes Park is the place to be.

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