As much as I like Buckley, and strongly believe he will succeed as a senior coach, I just cannot see him doing this anywhere other than Collingwood. There is simply no way they will let a resource like Buckley leave their club, and nor is there probably any reason for him to leave.

I foresee a smooth transition from Malthouse to Buckley in the coming years, with Collingwood doing everything imaginable to further his education - everything short of allowing him to leave the nest for any period of time.

Collingwood would hate to lose Buckley but he willl not be happy to sit on his hands if Malthouse stays on. He wants stuff NOW (That's why he left Brisbane). I am sure he has a decent stash of cash but if someone were to put a horses head in his bed, he would jump ship. The sport business is about making money while you have the chance and the window is small for most.
One thing is for sure. Whichever club is coached by Buckley, the players will be fit and committed. He can't stand anything short of 100% so there won't be any passengers either.
Voss I am not so sure about. He was a great footballer but the way I have heard him speak, I am not too sure he has the smarts outside the white line.
I still like Silvagni: Carlton legend, well presented, footy smarts, hot missus, three sons.

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I'd love to see them all apply.

In my limited opinion, Buckley is head and shoulders above Voss.
Voss speaks reasonably well but Buckley appears more willing to challenge conventional thinking. He has the courage to offer alternative views and he conveys his thoughts excellently.
He appears to be a real student of the game and confident in his beliefs.

As Elwood has stated earlier, Buckley struggled with communicating his thoughts to his team mates early days and that caused quite a bit of friction. However, he identified the fact it was a real weakness and worked hard to rectify it.
The fact that he expected high standards from his peers is excellent in my opinion.
The way he gets that message accross was the issue.

I dont think anyone who listens to Nathan Buckley talk football could now doubt his communication skills.

As I said, get them all in for a chat. With Swanny in the hotseat, it might improve our chances to lure him away from Eddieville.

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I'll put a small wager on a M.Voss/G.Thomas combo.

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There's so much I could say...

Then Riewoldt?

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And I'm in 1C CB. I can't remember a player or ex-player who has impressed me so much as a coach in waiting.

The question is timing with the Collingwood job. I would think that Buckley would want to do at least a year as an assistant. He could do that at Collingwood, or may feel he is better off seeing how another club operates (as Worsfold did). If the job at Collingwood then came up, no doubt he would want it and get it. If it didn't, then he has a decision to make, and I have no idea how open he would be to coaching elsewhere (although you would think if he was serious about a senior role, he'd go elsewhere).

I would love him to be interviewed for the coaching job, and if he impresses as much as he does in public, then give him the job. However, my gut feel is that even if offered, he wouldn't accept a senior job next year, I think he would prefer to be an assistant first (with the thought that maybe the Collingwood job will be open in a year or two).

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It would only want to be a small wager to Budzy

My money is

If we lose our remaining 10 games - Pagan stays

If we win 2-3 of them - He goes

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I'm starting to think Voss is the man for Carlton. I was on the 'Bluey McKenna' bandwagon but the romance of it all is just to much for me to ignore.

Voss loves Carlton................Carlton loves Voss.

Hell, i think from memory Voss played his first game at Princess Park, did he not?

Anyway. Voss may be young......................but so is our list. We could have the equivilent to Seedy at Essendon* (a 20+year coach).

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A mouth watering dilemma. Voss v Buckley. Both have the qulaifications from a playing point of view although we all know Voss was the tougher player. My gut tells me Voss especially after I heard what he had to say on Footy Classified last night. The passionate way in which he spoke about wanting to coach, the confidence ...you must admit it has Carlton aggorance written all over it. But more importantly it has undenying belief...a very important ingredient.

Nothing against Bucks but for me 2 things work against him. Firstly, the fact that Collingwood want him so badly and would do anything to keep him there is a major warning signal. I respect what Collingwood have done off-filed but their on-field exploits have always been about "almost" and "we were so close" that this scares me off Bucks big time.

Secondly, I just can't get that look he had on his face out of my head in the week leading up to the '03 Grand final. That grinless, steely look of "I rule" and "we're certainties" and then to see them get pummelled by 10 goals after that intense lead up has me worried big time.

Picture this for one fleeting moment...a Voss coached Carlton coming up against a Buckley coached Collingwood...at the MCG...in spring...if you know what I mean. Who would you rather have in your corner???

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Thanks for the memories Kouta. You are and always will be a True Blue Carlton Legend. #43.

Just rememner, Buckley was never surrounded by Brown, Black, Power, Lappin, Leppitch, Akermanis, Lynch, Johnson...

In fact, in that '02 GF, his highest credentialed team mates were Clement (before his heyday), Burns, Licuria, Rocca, Tarrant.

And he almost single-handedly carried them to a Flag.

The only reason he is not a three-time Premiership captain right now is because he made a decision many years ago that eventuated in him being surrounded by a group of players who were significantly below his own ability. Put him in the right environment, where the off-field operation is strong, with some genuine young talent, and he will perform, no question.

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Exactly what I was alluding to....he "almost..." It's the almost that surrounds the Collingwood culture that you just can't ignore.

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Thanks for the memories Kouta. You are and always will be a True Blue Carlton Legend. #43.

VOSS

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Disagree. Norm Smith medallist, Brownlow medallist, everything he was able to do he did, but for a Premiership, you can't do it alone.

A bit like John Kennedy senior. Played for 10 years, captain of Hawthorn for 6, four-time best and fairest winner. But couldn't win a flag without a decent team around him. But he was a winner, and proved it in '61, and became a triple-Premiership coach.

Just because Collingwood has a culture of 'almost', doesn't mean everyone associated with it does to. Maguire is certainly a 'winner', as is Buckley.

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Still can't agree. Maybe I'm biased but even when they have had the cattle they have under achieved.

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" Koutoufides has taken the last quarter by the scruff of the neck..." Commentary Drew Morphett Last Qtr '99 Prelim. Pure Gold.

Thanks for the memories Kouta. You are and always will be a True Blue Carlton Legend. #43.

I can see where you're coming from Dom, but still think Buckley has winner written all over him.

In terms of having the cattle, in my footballing lifetime, the only time Collingwood really had a Premiership team was perhaps 1977 (and before that, 1970, but I was only 2!).

Since then, I don't think they've ever been the best team in the competition.

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There's so much I could say...

Siegfried maybe its the Carlton in me but sometimes you just get a feel for whether someone belongs in your club or not and between the two (i.e. Voss and Bucks) my gut says Voss.
Could even be the disdain that Buckley seems to have for others in the comp. don't know something about him doesn't ring true for me.

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" Koutoufides has taken the last quarter by the scruff of the neck..." Commentary Drew Morphett Last Qtr '99 Prelim. Pure Gold.

Thanks for the memories Kouta. You are and always will be a True Blue Carlton Legend. #43.

Fair enough too...gotta go with your gut Dom. And any gut feel that has something to do with not trusting Collingwood is reasonable in my book!

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...couldn't agree more. There would always be this feeling in the back of your mind that he'd get us to a grand final and make sure we lose just to make Eddie happy.....

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" Koutoufides has taken the last quarter by the scruff of the neck..." Commentary Drew Morphett Last Qtr '99 Prelim. Pure Gold.

Thanks for the memories Kouta. You are and always will be a True Blue Carlton Legend. #43.

Heard someone on SEN say rumour is Carlton is talking to Voss today, and that Voss wants to bring Wayne Brittain as an assistant with him.
There was then a discussion on SENlater on re Voss as a senior coach for next year and Patrick Smith said he would have Carlton as odds on favourites to be the team he would be at. The discussion then centred around likely assistants that had been in the system before, and Brittain's name came up along with several others including Tony Shaw and Stan Alves.

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