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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:49 pm 
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i should have put a poll on this when i set it up but i think fev has the numbers. get it fev, lets see what he can do.

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I think its pretty sad that our best choice of captain in this thread is two kids as in Murphy and Gibbs.

Fev is the only leader out there on the field. Give Fevvy the responsibility if anyone, not a kid.

If theres ever a melee you look for the big fev to be in there and fly the flag.

To be a capt he has to be someone respected by his team mates.

No player in the team would disagree with Fev as Capt.

But if you put a kid ahead of senior players that deserve a shot at captaincy, then your rocking the boat. Fev wanted to be capt last year, it would just be a kick in the guts if Murphy got it in front of him.

In the workplace, if a manager left the workplace in charge of 38 staff members, would you put a kid thats been there a short period over more respected senior staff? and if you say yes then your kidding yourself.

As much as l love murphy and gibbs, putting either of them capt makes the club look like a joke. Murphy has only played 20odd games now and gibbs 12.

Waite as capt? thats a joke. Hes played a couple good games this year and thats about it.

Fev is the only option as a temporary captain.
Sure he may whinge to umpires, but he has good cause too, but he tries his guts out there and every player looks up to him.

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I think its pretty sad that our best choice of captain in this thread is two kids as in Murphy and Gibbs.

Fev is the only leader out there on the field. Give Fevvy the responsibility if anyone, not a kid.

If theres ever a melee you look for the big fev to be in there and fly the flag.

To be a capt he has to be someone respected by his team mates.

No player in the team would disagree with Fev as Capt.

But if you put a kid ahead of senior players that deserve a shot at captaincy, then your rocking the boat. Fev wanted to be capt last year, it would just be a kick in the guts if Murphy got it in front of him.

In the workplace, if a manager left the workplace in charge of 38 staff members, would you put a kid thats been there a short period over more respected senior staff? and if you say yes then your kidding yourself.

As much as l love murphy and gibbs, putting either of them capt makes the club look like a joke. Murphy has only played 20odd games now and gibbs 12.

Waite as capt? thats a joke. Hes played a couple good games this year and thats about it.

Fev is the only option as a temporary captain.
Sure he may whinge to umpires, but he has good cause too, but he tries his guts out there and every player looks up to him.

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great post and thats exactly how i feel. Murph and Gibbs are way too young and they have only played a few games. It would be stupid to have them instead of Fev.

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fevolution!

how many photos you got with the great man?

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keogh wrote:
Murphy


Why Murphy?


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..i reckon some folks have got rocks in their head.. ..firstly, even naming Gibbs reads desperation all over it.. ..the fact that he was in the leadership group before he played a senior game was ridiculous.... ..naming him as captain, vice or anything else is a joke, and no team is gonna respect us.. ..if they even still do.. ..and murphy is not much better.. ..same deal, he hasnt even got two full seasons under his belt.. ..shite, it's only a half season each year he's been here so far.. ..everyone wants their captain to lead and inspire the rest of the team, two fresh faced boys cant do that.. ..once they become men out there, sure.. ..but not yet.. ..way too early..

..as for fev, he's proven one thing for certain over his time at carlton, and that's his unreliability to being professional with his football.. ..the same crime we're happy to lynch whitnall for.. ..whatever he does for the team he undoes, if not in the same game then in the next.. ..far too unreliable.. ..waite is the same in this regard.. ..scotland is more consistent, and i think he'd make a good vice captain.. ..but like its been said, the captain if the face of the team.. ..and i'd like to see a captain that hasnt been to court recently for effs sake..

..thornton coulda been an option, but the crap with hawthorn last yr sours his chances i think.. ..i think Carrots is the go.. ..he's hard, accountable, reliable and becoming consistent.. ..he's fair in play, and good off-field as well.. ..and he's worked very hard to get where he's at, there's real hunger and gratitude in him.. ..and i doubt we'll be cringing at him for some newspaper scandal like we do with others..

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..and i think rotating captains for the rest of the season is a dodgey idea.. ..it shows we've got no idea where our next captain is coming from, and more importantly what if the captain for the week has an off day, or there's alot of injuries to the team at the time and we get trounced.. ..not real indicator of the players ability.. ..come seasons end you wont know any better, trust me on that.. ..far too unpredictable, to judge a captain off a game or two....pure nonsense..

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I think Simpson would be ideal for now. Leads by example on the field with his voice and hardness at the footy!


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Fev should be captain, followed by scotland. No one else

Not to waite, dont think he could be captain yet, still goes missin sometimes. I do luv waitey.

Murph and Gibbs are to young and are not ready, why put pressure on them no matter how good they are. They will get it in the future so wats the rush.

Fev is inspiring, he lifts the team, he flys the flag, his our best player, he shouldve been captain. Been at the club a while, his whole career. He loves the club more than anyone and promotes the club better than anyone. I will be very disappointed if he isnt.


Good post.

I agree - Fev. has an aura about him. He is the Coleman Medalist and the only player that has brought any pride to this club in the last 5 years (other than Stevens) OK he has had some low moments, but he has done far more good than bad.

Fev. for captain for me - imagine being led out by a player that can actually turn a game - ala Nicholls, Kernahan, Johnston etc. The pride you would feel would have an impact.

None of the others can turn a game like Fev.


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Fev is a superstar but he is selfish and not a leader. Yes he does inspirational stuff on the field but don't get this confused with leading a team of men. Would Anthony Rocca be considered for Collingwood captaincy?

Scotland should be put on notice for his place in the team, is also selfish and not a leader.

I like the idea of temporarily rotating captaincy for the remainder of the year (assuming Whitnall does not play again this year), with a view to appointing a single captain for 2008. Must say I liked Grant Thomas' idea of yearly rotating captains and would like to see this implemented at Carlton - then you could have Murphy in Year 2 or 3, same with Gibbs if they are not quite ready yet. If they then prove their excellence in the role, then maybe a more permanent appointment. In the first year or two try a Bret Thornton, Kade Simpson, Andrew Carrazzo - more your 'blue collar' type of appointment and guys that have had to work their backsides off to become senior AFL footballers. This will send a signal that these types of efforts get rewarded by the football club. Not getting your face on ACA of being out at a pub until 4am with first year players (Lance, Heath).

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Hmm...hard to see the future is.

I doubt Lance will be out for the rest of the season (unfortunately). I don't think Kouta will captain (thought I'd mention that cos no one had said it yet). Captain shouldn't be given to the older players.

I believe Stevens should have been captain this year, and should be next year. Unfortunately his injury may jeopardise his chances. My future captain choices.

Walker - Does the exciting, inspiring things (hard running, breaking tackles, incredible goals).
Murphy - Natural leader, skillful. Speaks for himself.
Gibbs - A bit of an unknown, but SO poised, brave and calm under pressure. Time seems to stop for him to play football.
Waite - Can be seen directing the forward and the backline while on the field.
Stevens - Should've been picked last year. Seems obvious in hindsight. Leader and hard worker, elite player.
Fevola - Inspirational, as so many have said. A flawed leader. Best player in the competition at his best, absent at his lowest.

So, my conclusion. Stevens to be captain until 2010 perhaps? I'm assuming he won't dud like I feel Whitnall has, will get a few good years as captain and that gives time for Walker, Murphy and Gibbs to all show their wares. I think they may all be great leaders, plus the many other kids yet to arrive. For the rest of the season, I'd like Fev and T-Bird to share it. I don't really know how much of a leader T-Bird is, but he's experienced, competitive and at the opposite end of the ground to Fev.


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dane wrote:
fevolution!

how many photos you got with the great man?


just a few :wink:

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dane wrote:
fevolution!

how many photos you got with the great man?


just a few :wink:

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Synbad wrote:
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Synners who do you think should be captain?
DUC, id like the remaing games to be divided aming our up and comers as one or trwo game caotains.
Fev
Walker
T Bird
Simmo
Waite
and the last one to go to Murph.
I want them to fight for it.


What - not even a look in for Big Red?

How about a half of football, shared between Lance and Wiggins. :wink:


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Are the people that advocate Nick Stevens for the captaincy the same ones as those who last year (at times) jeered and even booed Stevens for his perceived unaccountability/softness/unwillingness to chase?

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SparkyBlue wrote:
Synbad wrote:
DownUnderChick wrote:
Synners who do you think should be captain?
DUC, id like the remaing games to be divided aming our up and comers as one or trwo game caotains.
Fev
Walker
T Bird
Simmo
Waite
and the last one to go to Murph.
I want them to fight for it.


What - not even a look in for Big Red?

How about a half of football, shared between Lance and Wiggins. :wink:


Lance has had his fill of leading for the season and because i wouldnt be looking at him long term.. he wouldnt get another look in except to maybe co captain the last game with Kouta as a fairwell game!!!

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My obvious choice :- KOUTA

My Choice:- FEV

My 'I wish' Choice:- Murphy.

My 'Deserves a shot' choice:- Simpson.

My 'i'll hand in my membership if this ever happens' choice:- Houlihan.

My 'DON'T YOU EVEN DARE, I'M WARNING YOU' Choice:- Ackland

My 'would celebrate with the worlds biggest Fist-Pump' choice :- Setanta.

My 'Expect him to really step-up to the plate' Choice:- Waite.



I'm not sure on the whole 'sack lance' thing, but i do aggree he is not making the Captian we hoped he'd be.

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Carrots or Scotland

They're leaders in the midfield, and have big numbers compared to the rest of the league. Even if it's only for a week .. Skinny could probably make the grade as well, but definitely not Hoops: you need a general all-rounder and Carrots, Scotland, and Skinny rate in that regard .. Hoops is OK but too inconsistent ..

My $0.02 worth

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