I disagree...

No harm in preparing the suitable captain for 2008.

One of them will stand out...

I reckon Tex could be a great captain.

Fev might pull his head in if he was named captain...he is definently our on field leader.

Truth is that they wont devlare a new catain for the long term until a decision is made on Whitnall's future.

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We already have a temporary captain, Whitnall, we don't need another.

Someone has to have the balls to pick a leader and let him grow into the job. There's no use naming Walker now if he's out injured. It should be Waite or Murphy. Or even t-bird (last years trade period may work against him)

Fev put himslef out of the reckoning in Ireland and on ACA.

We took a punt on Sticks and it worked, Sydney took a punt on paul Kelly and it worked. The status quo isnt working. lappin, Scotland etc have proven themselves inadequate.
I would much rather the team rally around an inspired young leader rather than an uninspiring veteran

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They won't name a captain before Whitnall's stuation is decided upon.

There is no "Ifs' or "buts" about it.

Why not trial some of the kids.

Shit...there not going to name a captain this year...

I am not saying I dont want them to name a new captain the truth is they wont.

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I'd give the captaincy to Stevens until Murphy is ready to go. He shows a lot of leadership for such a young man, but he isn't ready for this yet.

Whats so hard about saying that until Whits returns, Jarrod waite will be captain?

Nobody expects that the club will dump Whitnall before round 22 but we have an opportunity to let a young player show his thing.

Changeing captains weekly is a lesser option IMO

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I see it more as an opportunity to see Who "really" wants the honour of being the Captain of the Carlton Football Club?

Waite would be good...maybe

You never know...T-Bird floating back into a pack (week in week out) might inspire the kids more.

I dont have the answer...thats why it might be good to see who walks the talk out on the field.

Lance certainly does'nt.

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I'd give it to a young fella like a Kade Simpson who doesn't stop running and busting his gut for the side

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Why prolong the inevitable?

Just give it to Murphy.

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QFT

I don't subscribe to this give it to X till Y is ready. If Y is the best long term candidate, give him the job. If X is only seen as a fill-in then he obviosly isnt the right man for the job

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Carrazzo may be a most interesting interim appointment

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The bloke in your avatar says "if he is the best man available he aint necessarily the best man".

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Not every player that pulls on a pair of boots is, or wants to be a captain. Being a born leader is something that is natural and shows regardless of their status or age.

Giving a young bloke 1 week is not going to prove a thing. To me Waite doesn't have it, Murphy oozes it but is still 2-3 years too young. He needs to get a handle on his own game before he has to worry about others. Stevens and Lance obviously have it but I don't personally think Kouta ever did. Fev has potential, but is far too erratic to be permenant.

Fev should have it for the rest of 07 if Lance is out of action and I'd let Stevens have it in 2008/09 then have Murphy take over with either Walker/Simpson as VC then Gibbs DV, if he continues to show what he has already.

Why is Murphy too young?

As we have ALL said, the guy oozes leadership NOW, why wait 2-3 years?

He has done extremely well in the face of so much attention this year, I think he handle it and he will have the support of the young guns in Tex, GIBBS, T-Bird, Carrots et al.

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Who said anyhting about the best available

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Give it to number 4


Captain doesn't really mean squat these days. It just means you toss the coin.

There is a leadership group, it no longer has the same appeal that it once had at clubs.

Milburn tossed the coin last week for playing a milestone game, indigenous players toss the coin on their round, so who really cares

but let gibbsy/murph or fev toss the coin if anyone.

Other clubs might not see it as an honour but the Club I support certainly should keep the tradition.

Lance has not been the best captain...but I sure as well want the next captain to wear his heart on his sleeve.

It is quite an honour to hold a loft the 17th Carlton Premiership Cup!

Which player will take that step and lead?

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Because I don't think he's got a handle on it just yet. What's the rush? We know he'll be the next Premiership captain in several years let's just be patient and let him do what he needs to do to get his game right.

DUC, you'll be well into your 50's when Murphs career is closing down , that seems a long way off doesn't it . My point is, he's got plenty of time and so do we.

We are so bereft of leadership at the club that I'm almost tempted to ask young Richard to don the Navy Blue jumper again and lead us until Murphy is ready.

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I agree, DUC, it's bloody aweful. Thomas was bangin on about it the other day as if it was something the current board or coach could change. The fact is any players worth their salt as leaders at other clubs won't be let go and the ones we've got are few and far between.

The people to shoulder the blame should be those in charge of recruiting in 1997/98/99 when those boys would be 26+ years old. Unfortunately it's something we can't change in the short term. We just have to work with what we've got and try to hang on to Lappin and Lance for as long as they can help in some way.

I think we cut Franchina and Hulme loose too soon. They'd be the 150-200 game players we need right now and although they couldn't be captain, they'd take pressure off the older and younger boys.

People say Murphy is too young.

For heavens sake we have seen that the other candidates, ie Fev, Lappin, Stevens , Scotland, are not up to it. Why would you install someone as captain because they were born on acertain date. They are proven failures as leaders. Why should we continue to accept mediocrity.

Murphy is a born leader. It may be before his ideal time but so what. He'll grow int the job. It isnt to much for him, it won't weigh him down.
Have some faith

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