Synbad wrote:
popeye wrote:
AGRO wrote:
I get no joy out of I told you so.
But over the past few weeks there have been some who seriously considered that this list was the one to take us to the next level and that we could top it up with a Pick 5 and 21 this year and right oh we would be top eight next year and top 4 in 2009.
Hawthorn should have sent a clear wake up call to our MC as to where Carlton is at and what we should be doing to take us away from where we are currently at to a place where we all want to be and that is on top of the pile for a good number of years.
Oh yes you do
Whilst our performance was unacceptable, it's only one game. So you post about a wake up call to the MC - then outline your blueprint (no pun intended).
Let me guess - tanking. Agro your negativity astounds me - I'll say it again go barrack for St Kilda or Freo.
Of course you (collective) don't consider how much this gutts the players, how much continually loses gutts them and supporters. I see the Bulldogs won tonight, so our win against them was a fluke right.
Last night Banno played OK, he is worth perservering with and 2 out of 3 aint bad right. Yes there are a couple of players who should be feeling uneasy at the selection table but FFS let's not panic and get back into this crap talk about tanking and where we are at. Let's see where we are after a complete season, then considered decisions can be made. This is the Pratt way. He didn't become successful by being a loser.
I really dont believe some people understand what needs to be done to give yourself any opportunity to greatness.
"I see the Bulldogs won tonight, so our win against them was a fluke right.
Last night Banno played OK, he is worth perservering with and 2 out of 3 aint bad right."
That mentality says it all.
First... the year we won our last premiership we lost to the Swans and the Saints who were all the way down at the bottom of the ladder...
Second... if you think Banno doing ok 2 out of 3 weeks means he can help take the club to another level then you dont understand football.
We lack depth!
We lack class!
We lack leadership!
Each time you give yourself an opportunity to draft early you have another REAL crack at bringing those qualities into the club.
We didnt have the balls to trade for early picks (unlike Hawthorn- and thats how they snagged Lewis- even though they were getting Roughead and Franklin... we got getting JR....
So of course they went right past us!!!...
Hawthorn are a team that is priming itself for sustained success. A window of about 6 or 7 years and maybe more at winning premierships.
You have to get over HAwthorn to win a premiership!!!...
So you need to add class and depth... and not just players.
Having said this, who are our trade bait this year?
I'll have a go:
Houlihan - 2nd rounder at best
Russell - 2nd rounder at best
Bentick - 3rd rounder at best
Whitnall - 3rd rounder at best
Fisher - 2nd rounder at best
Bower - 3rd rounder
Hartlett - 2nd rounder at best
Stevens - 1st rounder (not that I'd trade him)
Fevola - could demand 2 x 1st rounders
Wiggins - 3rd rounder at best
Carazzo - 2nd rounder at best
So, out of that list Fev would be the only player you could trade for early picks, and Stevens, but we need leadership in the midfield and experience so would be against this.
We had the chance at off loading Lance for a 1st rounder to Melb a few years ago, but not to be.
Trading players for round picks just will get you even far behind,why trade Bower for 3rd rounder with no experience that might play only 5 afl games ever might as well delist him then same as Bentick,same as Wiggins,some people will trade Houilhan for a round 4 pick who will probably never make it and if you trade him you trade him for someone similiar who can play but possible a position we need in the team that a club has a few who need a player like Houilhan to top a team ready for the finals,we dont need another Chambers in the side taking his spot.
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