I'd support Rats. But I'd still want Voss as an assistant at least.

I'd supprot Voss as

1) He is a "tuff as nails bloke, who doesn't mix his words"

2) He would not allow the players to get away with an insipid performance like last night.....

3) They will play as he did or they are on the outer, this will be crystal clear to them..

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Crosisca for senior coach.

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I am seriously laughing at this post.

Hope he comes and stays for a million years....

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Voss doesn't say anything really insightful about team tactics as a commentator, which could be worrying. Walls kills him in that aspect, but I am sure in terms of inspiration as a person Voss would be someone most footballers would look up to.

I'll still be around here, all it will mean is will be acting like you do every day.

All grown up and manly????

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If that's what you call it, then yes.

and then when we win 8 games, and everyone says 'why did we get a coach without any trained experience' then i'll quote you on that...no matter who is in charge, we could go get Worsfold, and people on this site will still find flaws because they all know better!


Nic

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Teen Spirit wrote



You're missing the point Teen Spirit, but definetely sticking up for your point.

The point is we need a new coach, and we have to, repeat, have to change Pagan...it's all gone stale...his voice, his tactics and the whole Carlton Footy Family is being divided by him, I can't see the benefit in keeping the same old thing going with Pagan?

As of today...I'm sick of him,a nd the blame game and frustrations with him; it's either got to the stage where we stick by the supporters or they can just can go away or it's Pagan and he can go away.

It's over. He is dividing the club...most are sick of him. It's unCarlton to tolerate such a weak performance by a so called master coach. Truly, he's done jack shit other than retain Fev.

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Agree bondiblue,When you consider Coll made 2 GF`s after a spoon 2 years earlier,i think Denis has had long enough.Its just unacceptable to cop 100pts thrashings again this year.

Patiance people, Pagan hasn't hit his prime yet.....

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..and get Mick Martyn his 300th...

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There's so much I could say...

Good to see that we'd be appointing him because he has tactical nous and an ability to understand the game, react to game situations and get his ideas through to the players in a way in which they can understand

This next coaching appointment is as important as any in our history, we simply MUST get it right. Appointing someone with zero coaching experience at AFL level is ludicrous, I will be mortified if we appoint Voss.

Pratt will want the best 'available'...Voss has done NOTHING to suggest he is even close to the best available.

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Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!

As I have said for the last 5 years, Carlton appoints a new and very young coach, probably in his early thirties, who has no previous senior coaching experience.

It is possible that the next coach has been an assistant, and it is also possible that the next coach has no AFL coaching experience at all.

As I have also said on many previous occasions, Lance Whitnall isnt a player in the new Carlton - which might not have seemed all that possible on best and fairest night - but this is a reality which is now being played out in front of our eyes.

The success that Carlton enjoys in the future comes through the work of a very very young team. - It will be very interesting indeed if some or all of the team changes suggested here do indeed come to pass - as I believe is likely that they will.

There can be enormous changes in a club and a team within the space of 40 or 50 games - I suggest that we might all soon see just how significant those changes can actually be.

We should consider that Hawthorn has a very young team, younger than ours, but different in that they have a few more first round picks and that these young players have had significantly more game time than our young players have had.

We should also think about what would happen to Carlton if we blooded a lot more of our young players and like Hawthorn, they blossomed into a very hard running side in a relatively short period of time - but with one critically important difference - we had a far more clever, inspiring, driven, focussed and able young coach than Alistair Clarkson of Hawthorn...

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