Re-contracting of players

BIBI01 · **Joined:** Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:43 pm **Posts:** 322

i think lances value to the team and his teammates underestimated by those who do not get to see what actually happens in the inner sanctum.

a lot of what lances does and makes him important are the things that do not show up on the stats sheets.

lance has had his moments but overall he has given the club pretty good service and while we are re building has an important part to play

SurreyBlue · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:32 am **Posts:** 10613

Some people just don't get it.
Lance Whitnall doesn't just complement a forward line consisting of Waite, Fisher & Fevola but he leads and directs them.
If you don't understand that, then you know nothing about football.

bluebeard · **Posted:** Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:41 pm

SurreyBlue wrote:

Some people just don't get it.
Lance Whitnall doesn't just complement a forward line consisting of Waite, Fisher & Fevola but he leads and directs them.
If you don't understand that, then you know nothing about football.

I tend to agree.

Whitnall is a very smart footballer...B&F winner and captain.

He is'nt just there to make up the numbers, ussually Whitnall kicks a couple and feeds a few.

He is slow...that is a fact, however he does teach the Waite's, Fishers and JK's how to present as an option in the HF & FF lines.

I also believe that his days in the "modern AFL" are numbered.

The game is getting too fast for him and I can only see Whitnall being in our best 22 for the next couple of years.

the role that he plays in those years is important.

He is our: old teaching the pup's some new tricks.

Best teacher in the AFL...maybe?

sinbagger · **Posted:** Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:42 pm

Sorry but I think a 5 year contract is just too much for any player, remember Kouta's contract? We don't want a repeat of that.

I say 2 years for the second tier players and three years for gibbs, murphy & walker.

Siegfried · **Joined:** Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:30 pm **Posts:** 2864

Player contractual status can be found here...

http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB2/vi ... 192#501192

Blue Sombrero · **Posted:** Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:27 am

5 years is a long time and comes with big risks They aren't thrown around willy nilly. Look what happened to Kouta, Hamill, N. Brown, Buckley, Darcy and others who have missed the best part of two years due to injury.
Also, look what is happening with Tredrea at the moment. Struggling to get a kick after an injury.
And Cousins.
Three years seems to be the one the player managers want because it is achieveble and the clubs will normally do it for players they see as guaranteed best 22 for the medium term. (Ackland, for example

) and Thornton, whom they would have lost by offering him less and sticking to it.
The post about the broadcast rights is an interesting one and something I hadn't considered but may well be spot on, although 9 desperately wants the footy back.
Nice to see some lateral thinking.

blueman · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 6:28 pm **Posts:** 2220

a three year contract is very generous. 5 years is too risky for a club to contemplate, even for your better players.

However, if you were going to take a punt and offer 5, players like Gibbs or Murphy would be the ones that would most likely get it.

BIBI01 · **Joined:** Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:43 pm **Posts:** 322

bluebeard wrote:

SurreyBlue wrote:

Some people just don't get it.
Lance Whitnall doesn't just complement a forward line consisting of Waite, Fisher & Fevola but he leads and directs them.
If you don't understand that, then you know nothing about football.

I tend to agree.

Whitnall is a very smart footballer...B&F winner and captain.

He is'nt just there to make up the numbers, ussually Whitnall kicks a couple and feeds a few.

He is slow...that is a fact, however he does teach the Waite's, Fishers and JK's how to present as an option in the HF & FF lines.

I also believe that his days in the "modern AFL" are numbered.

The game is getting too fast for him and I can only see Whitnall being in our best 22 for the next couple of years.

the role that he plays in those years is important.

He is our: old teaching the pup's some new tricks.

Best teacher in the AFL...maybe?

whitnall is great at directing players, much like dermie did with sav rocca when he was at collingwood.

budzy · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:17 am **Posts:** 8128

SurreyBlue wrote:

Some people just don't get it.
Lance Whitnall doesn't just complement a forward line consisting of Waite, Fisher & Fevola but he leads and directs them.
If you don't understand that, then you know nothing about football.

Lance should be a forward coach somewhere next year :wink:

bluebeard · **Posted:** Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:05 am

BIBI01 wrote:

bluebeard wrote:

SurreyBlue wrote:

Some people just don't get it.
Lance Whitnall doesn't just complement a forward line consisting of Waite, Fisher & Fevola but he leads and directs them.
If you don't understand that, then you know nothing about football.

I tend to agree.

Whitnall is a very smart footballer...B&F winner and captain.

He is'nt just there to make up the numbers, ussually Whitnall kicks a couple and feeds a few.

He is slow...that is a fact, however he does teach the Waite's, Fishers and JK's how to present as an option in the HF & FF lines.

I also believe that his days in the "modern AFL" are numbered.

The game is getting too fast for him and I can only see Whitnall being in our best 22 for the next couple of years.

the role that he plays in those years is important.

He is our: old teaching the pup's some new tricks.

Best teacher in the AFL...maybe?

whitnall is great at directing players, much like dermie did with sav rocca when he was at collingwood.

Touch'e!

blueblues · **Joined:** Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:26 pm **Posts:** 236

This is the way i think the players should be recontracted.

nytdog wrote:

This is where I think it stands. I've put a * next to the guys I'm not 100% sure on.

2007
Koutoufides (V) Retired
Lappin 1 year
Whitnall 1 year
Saddington 1 year
Stevens 2 years
Scotland 2 years
Teague delisted
McLaren delisted
Bannister 1 year
O'hAilpin, S 2 years
Carazzo 2 years
Cloke 1 year
Bentick* 2 years
Hartlett depends on the rest of his season
Flint look above
Kennedy 2 years
Edwards 2 years
Bower 2 years

2008
Fevola
Houlihan*
Wiggins
Waite
Fisher*
Simpson*
Walker*
Russell
Blackwell
Betts*
Raso
Murphy*
Hampson
Grigg
Benjamin
Anderson
Austin
Gibbs*

2009
Ackland
Thornton

This means we will have 3-5 free spots on the list next year and i would definitely like more.

BigBlueWave · **Joined:** Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:45 pm **Posts:** 3073

I think Kouta will go one more year.

blueboy8 · **Joined:** Fri Mar 04, 2005 1:13 pm **Posts:** 972

Just announced Walker and Kennedy signed for 2 years by Robert Walls on 3AW :-D

welcomebackcattogio · **Joined:** Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:34 pm **Posts:** 112

Walker and Kennedy have signed for 2 years according to Walls on 3AW

troybond · **Posted:** Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:30 pm

Great news if it hasn't been said already, that Walks and Big Joshy have re-signed until the end of 2009

Forza Azzuri !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kennyhunter · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:35 pm **Posts:** 2434

But JK's no good :wink:

Synbad · **Posted:** Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:09 pm

BIBI01 wrote:

bluebeard wrote:

SurreyBlue wrote:

Some people just don't get it.
Lance Whitnall doesn't just complement a forward line consisting of Waite, Fisher & Fevola but he leads and directs them.
If you don't understand that, then you know nothing about football.

I tend to agree.

Whitnall is a very smart footballer...B&F winner and captain.

He is'nt just there to make up the numbers, ussually Whitnall kicks a couple and feeds a few.

He is slow...that is a fact, however he does teach the Waite's, Fishers and JK's how to present as an option in the HF & FF lines.

I also believe that his days in the "modern AFL" are numbered.

The game is getting too fast for him and I can only see Whitnall being in our best 22 for the next couple of years.

the role that he plays in those years is important.

He is our: old teaching the pup's some new tricks.

Best teacher in the AFL...maybe?

whitnall is great at directing players, much like dermie did with sav rocca when he was at collingwood.

Ok so Lance is good at directing...... but whats that got to do with football???
Slow.... no flexibility... allows the defenders to attack through him...

Its not 1970 its 2007.

He can join the police force after this and stand on the corner of Flinders and Swanston streets and direct all he wants... perfect career...!

welcomebackcattogio · **Joined:** Thu Nov 10, 2005 6:34 pm **Posts:** 112

Synbad wrote:

BIBI01 wrote:

bluebeard wrote:

SurreyBlue wrote:

Some people just don't get it.
Lance Whitnall doesn't just complement a forward line consisting of Waite, Fisher & Fevola but he leads and directs them.
If you don't understand that, then you know nothing about football.

I tend to agree.

Whitnall is a very smart footballer...B&F winner and captain.

He is'nt just there to make up the numbers, ussually Whitnall kicks a couple and feeds a few.

He is slow...that is a fact, however he does teach the Waite's, Fishers and JK's how to present as an option in the HF & FF lines.

I also believe that his days in the "modern AFL" are numbered.

The game is getting too fast for him and I can only see Whitnall being in our best 22 for the next couple of years.

the role that he plays in those years is important.

He is our: old teaching the pup's some new tricks.

Best teacher in the AFL...maybe?

whitnall is great at directing players, much like dermie did with sav rocca when he was at collingwood.

Ok so Lance is good at directing...... but whats that got to do with football???
Slow.... no flexibility... allows the defenders to attack through him...

Its not 1970 its 2007.

He can join the police force after this and stand on the corner of Flinders and Swanston streets and direct all he wants... perfect career...!

He'd be too close to KFC, McDonalds and Hungry Jacks on that corner for that career to work.

Blue Sombrero · **Posted:** Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:13 am

Not to mention Y&J's

bondiblue · **Posted:** Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:28 am

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