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No, i never said you made a sack Pagan comment.

It was just a reaction to your "Richmond supporters" comment - and isn't it typical Richmond to sack the coach? :lol:

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saw Campo impose himself in that game He gave Eddie a spray for turning the ball over and not kick it to him... :lol:
Top bloke... !!!
Campo i saw Eddie make tackles, chase and run.. what the hell were you doing???

I know..... fingerpointing and mouthing off...

youve been doing it for years.. and people are finally cottoning on.


Agree. Saw that happen and remember yelling why should you get it Campo you've wasted the ball all day. He's on big money, supposed to be one of our most skilled players, and his disposal (and attitude) was nothing short of shocking. As has been said above, Eddie may not have got the disposals, but at least he chased, tackled and put on sheperds, the things you do when things aren't going well. I don't get to many games at all, and was a bit dissapointed in the Campo bashing on this forum, but if yesterday was an example of his year then I'm not suprised. In fact, I think I might join you.

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His missed shot on goal under no pressure was inexcusable


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Graeme wrote:
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saw Campo impose himself in that game He gave Eddie a spray for turning the ball over and not kick it to him... :lol:
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Campo i saw Eddie make tackles, chase and run.. what the hell were you doing???

I know..... fingerpointing and mouthing off...

youve been doing it for years.. and people are finally cottoning on.


Agree. Saw that happen and remember yelling why should you get it Campo you've wasted the ball all day. He's on big money, supposed to be one of our most skilled players, and his disposal (and attitude) was nothing short of shocking. As has been said above, Eddie may not have got the disposals, but at least he chased, tackled and put on sheperds, the things you do when things aren't going well. I don't get to many games at all, and was a bit dissapointed in the Campo bashing on this forum, but if yesterday was an example of his year then I'm not suprised. In fact, I think I might join you.


Disposal was shocking!! :lol:

20 kicks, 16 of which were effective. (Most effective kicks for Carlton on the day).

Graeme: "Camporeale's disposal is shocking"
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Well i didnt see too many hit the target J.. i actually watched the replay.

Campo might be an outside midfielder but he is being paid and aked to be paid as a gun midfielder. If he was being paid what Riccardi would most likely be on noone would be bitching.

He threatened to leave the club for Port unless he got the big bucks.. now that he has the big bucks he is open to scrutiny... sure he is entitled to be paid what was signed to him.. but im allowed to bag the beejuzus out of him when he plays like a $200k pa player.. which is always.

Plus in a side that is screaming out for leaders.. Campo does fupp all for an 11 year player a former best and fairest and premiership player on huge dollars.

It all comes with the territory.

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Lay off Richo!!!! :roll:


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CarltonClem wrote:
Camporeale ...[has] reverted back to the old ways. That is unfortunate.


It's not unfortunate, Clem, It's inexcusable.

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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
CarltonClem wrote:
Camporeale ...[has] reverted back to the old ways. That is unfortunate.


It's not unfortunate, Clem, It's inexcusable.


The "old ways"? What, like he was playing in 1995? :roll:

When were these "old ways"?


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The following quote epitomises the significance of the farewell game at Optus....

"It was the best of times. It was the worst of times."

or....

"It (the past) was the best of times. It was (replace with is) the worst of times"


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Campo for me is the personification of where our midfield is at at the moment. He (and he's not alone) runs forward when we have the ball, we then turn the ball over due to skill errors, and he has no idea where his opponent is. His opponent then gets an easy possession standing just forward of the centre circle and promptly puts it on the chest of a leading forward.

We don't appear to have the skill level to match our attacking gameplan. Ambition seems to be outweighing ability at the moment.

Maybe it's time to revert back to basic, one on one, man on man football. Beat your opponent and we'll see what happens?

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verbs wrote:
Kaptain Kouta wrote:
CarltonClem wrote:
Camporeale ...[has] reverted back to the old ways. That is unfortunate.


It's not unfortunate, Clem, It's inexcusable.


The "old ways"? What, like he was playing in 1995? :roll:

When were these "old ways"?


Like when we won the contested ball.
Like when players who were'nt accountable to an opponent quite often got away with it.

Who were Campo's opponents yesterday Verbs?
How constructive were they?

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Deano Supremo wrote:
Campo for me is the personification of where our midfield is at at the moment. He (and he's not alone) runs forward when we have the ball, we then turn the ball over due to skill errors, and he has no idea where his opponent is. His opponent then gets an easy possession standing just forward of the centre circle and promptly puts it on the chest of a leading forward.

We don't appear to have the skill level to match our attacking gameplan. Ambition seems to be outweighing ability at the moment.

Maybe it's time to revert back to basic, one on one, man on man football. Beat your opponent and we'll see what happens?


Spot on Deano. He is lost on the reboun. Once in the third quarter on Saturday I saw 5 Carlton players in the centre sqaure, wandering through, as Melbourne had the overlap and kicked a goal. It hurt like buggery.


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molsey wrote:
Deano Supremo wrote:
Campo for me is the personification of where our midfield is at at the moment. He (and he's not alone) runs forward when we have the ball, we then turn the ball over due to skill errors, and he has no idea where his opponent is. His opponent then gets an easy possession standing just forward of the centre circle and promptly puts it on the chest of a leading forward.

We don't appear to have the skill level to match our attacking gameplan. Ambition seems to be outweighing ability at the moment.

Maybe it's time to revert back to basic, one on one, man on man football. Beat your opponent and we'll see what happens?


Spot on Deano. He is lost on the reboun. Once in the third quarter on Saturday I saw 5 Carlton players in the centre sqaure, wandering through, as Melbourne had the overlap and kicked a goal. It hurt like buggery.


Happened with alarming regularity on Saturday for the first three quarters. First time I've really noticed it this year. (then again, I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer)

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He was good last year because he played in a psuedo-tagger role. Forcing him to do a job was good for him and us. Now, maybe he's been given licence, but let him run free and he's useless in a team that cannot win contested ball as often as it would like, cannot hit targets as often as it would like.

It was ok when we had Ratts, Hickmott, Diesel, Fraser Brown putting their heads over the ball dishing it out, we invariably won it. If they didn't they would do the heavy work like tackling and making sure there would be another ball-up or whatever.

If he's going to play I think he should play a tagging role. Running with Goodwin this week might be a good start.

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Campo has been bloody terrible all year. He hangs out wide ,refuses to go in and get the hard ball, mouths off at less experienced players in the side , gets himself reported and doesn't do the team thing.
Heres an idea - Lets pick him every week- Oh what good coach I am

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Sydney Blue wrote:
Campo has been bloody terrible all year. He hangs out wide ,refuses to go in and get the hard ball, mouths off at less experienced players in the side , gets himself reported and doesn't do the team thing.
Heres an idea - Lets pick him every week- Oh what good coach I am


It's called bumping up perceived trade value Sydney :lol:

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The turn overs in close are exposing everyone. Sadly we hold onto the ball just long enough for everyone to start making attacking position then the skill error then the turn over then the goal to other team. THe oposition seem to let us get it these days knowing full well it will get turned over and they will all be loose.


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I've been resisting joining Synbad's party but after Saturday, I have had enough.

I don't really mind his hanging out of packs, it's never been his thing and he's never had the body for it but there is no reason why when the ball is in dispute that he is not within a couple of metres of his opponent. And there is no excuse for not running like buggery to create a contest when there is a turnover (rather than just jogging towards the opposition).

I am sick to death of his running behind the man who has a mark or free kick on our half-back line picking up cheap stats. When we get a mark on our back line he should be running forward creating options not running back. I'm sure he would never have dreamt of running behind Dean, Secco, Macca or Woofer for a soft receive - he would have been told where to go in no uncertain terms. And now, when we really need discipline and leadership by example he serves up this shit.

FFS, he a vice-captain he is the last person who should be screaming at the kids - I was disgusted with his spray at Eddie.

He should have looked at Kouta's efforts on Saturday and offered up his pay packet. Kouta hardly got a stat in the last quarter but that was because he was trying to carry and lift the whole team on his own for three quarters. (BTW, Kouta is the only one who deserves to be in the same sentence as Big Nick).

I will now return Synbad his soapbox...


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Exactly God.... Saturday was indeed the tale of two very different premiership players.


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Blue Vain wrote:
Who were Campo's opponents yesterday Verbs?
How constructive were they?


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