Finally A Carlton Reserves Team Again?

exsing · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2007 1:48 pm

budzy wrote:

I get the feeling that watching Carlton (VFL) playing matches at Princes Park once again will be popular with the members.

:-D

You bet! I will be there cheering on our Ressie side! Go blues!!! And you're right, it'll be so much better watching them don the Navy Blue than the bright red with a white ant...

Deano Supremo · **Posted:** Fri May 25, 2007 2:11 pm

Cool, I can go back to hating preston like I used to when Jamie Shaw was playing full-forward.

Jarusa · **Joined:** Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:00 am **Posts:** 23123

I can't believe it has taken me this long to notice the irony of Barry Mitchell coaching a team of white-ants. :lol:

budzy · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:17 am **Posts:** 8128

I'd be rapt if Mitch was appointed Carltons VFL coach.

Has hardly put a foot wrong developing our kids and getting them back on track after they've returned from the seniors gathering splinters. :wink:

GAVROMAN · **Joined:** Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:29 pm **Posts:** 391

Unless they re-instate the reserves matches to be played as the undercard to the seniors on the same matchday, any changes they make will be irrelevant to me!!!

bluebeard · **Posted:** Sat May 26, 2007 9:57 am

I thought Denis was coaching the reserves?

Indie · **Joined:** Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:28 am **Posts:** 1073

budzy wrote:

I'd be rapt if Mitch was appointed Carltons VFL coach.

Has hardly put a foot wrong developing our kids and getting them back on track after they've returned from the seniors gathering splinters. :wink:

Yep, look what he's done with JK. After just 1 game and no training sessions with him, he's produced a great performance :shock:

The cynics might suggest that a No. 4 pick who stands at 195 cm and 100 kg would be too good for the VFL in his 2nd year, but that's too negative eh?

But you look at the brilliant way he's brought the best out of Bower. Ok, Bower's year this year has been a disappointment after his big finish iagainst Sydney last year. And it wasn't Mitchell's fault he didn't play him in the VFL Grand Final, was it? But his insistence on Bower tagging his opponent tightly rather than playing his natural game will be good for him, won't it? Just as long as Pagan doesn't do the same - you know he always kills creativity ...

But he's done so well bringing Raso along. Sure, Raso hasn't played too many good games, and Mitchell hasn't bothered to play him much in the seniors. But at VFL level, injuries are a real explanation for such developmental delays. As long as Pagan doesn't try to use the same excuse in the seniors.

But you can see the impressive development he's brought out in Walker, Betts, Murphy and Gibbs. Sure, he hasn't actually spent much time with them. But it's the vibe.

Indie · **Joined:** Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:28 am **Posts:** 1073

Jarusa wrote:

I can't believe it has taken me this long to notice the irony of Barry Mitchell coaching a team of white-ants. :lol:

budzy · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:17 am **Posts:** 8128

Indie wrote:

budzy wrote:

I'd be rapt if Mitch was appointed Carltons VFL coach.

Has hardly put a foot wrong developing our kids and getting them back on track after they've returned from the seniors gathering splinters. :wink:

Yep, look what he's done with JK. After just 1 game and no training sessions with him, he's produced a great performance :shock:

The cynics might suggest that a No. 4 pick who stands at 195 cm and 100 kg would be too good for the VFL in his 2nd year, but that's too negative eh?

But you look at the brilliant way he's brought the best out of Bower. Ok, Bower's year this year has been a disappointment after his big finish iagainst Sydney last year. And it wasn't Mitchell's fault he didn't play him in the VFL Grand Final, was it? But his insistence on Bower tagging his opponent tightly rather than playing his natural game will be good for him, won't it? Just as long as Pagan doesn't do the same - you know he always kills creativity ...

But he's done so well bringing Raso along. Sure, Raso hasn't played too many good games, and Mitchell hasn't bothered to play him much in the seniors. But at VFL level, injuries are a real explanation for such developmental delays. As long as Pagan doesn't try to use the same excuse in the seniors.

But you can see the impressive development he's brought out in Walker, Betts, Murphy and Gibbs. Sure, he hasn't actually spent much time with them. But it's the vibe.

Yeah thatâ€™s right, Pagan is correct in his thinking that weâ€™re a finals chance coz his man SuperLance is a dominant CHF so JK will just have to watch and learn from the Super CHF for the time being â€¦sheesh
Bowerâ€™s in his 2nd year only .. Should he be an established AFL attacking defender by now?? Mitchellâ€™s teaching him the fine art of when to attack and when to defend. Youâ€™ve got no idea by the sounds of it.
Rasoâ€™s gone from one injury to the next. Heâ€™s only played NB reserves when starting back after injury and would be playing every NB senior game if not for the automatic NB contracted player selections and 12:10 rule.
I tend to agree with DOAâ€™s thoughts on Denisâ€™ development of AW.
If you think Paganâ€™s got anything to do with Murphy & Gibbsâ€™ abilities youâ€™re deluded.
Bettsâ€™ role in the team is hardly rocket science.

Fair dinkum, some of the crap written lately is mind boggling.

budzy · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:17 am **Posts:** 8128

Indie wrote:

Jarusa wrote:

I can't believe it has taken me this long to notice the irony of Barry Mitchell coaching a team of white-ants. :lol:

geniuses, you two..

jim · **Joined:** Wed Oct 12, 2005 9:21 pm **Posts:** 8214

I don't mind either way as I've always been a Preston VFA supporter since I was a kid. So I was pretty happy Carlton amalgamated with them. As a preference I'd prefer a Carlton Reserves team if forced to choose.

amazonstud · **Posted:** Sun May 27, 2007 6:04 pm

IIRC the AFL cancelled the reserves and Under 19's because of the cost and wear and tear on grounds. They then reduced the player lists from 48 per club. Now we're down to 38 and 6 rookies and some clubs are struggling due to injuries. There was a reason teams had a list of 48 with a senior and reserve team and allowance for injury.

They changed the priority draft rules and the father son rules which will affect the Victorian teams the most because at present they are the teams down the bottom and the ones who would most benefit from an extra pick in ther first round.

They changed the marking rules and the length of kicks rule. They are now thinking about making it play on to kick backwards and discussing killing off the VFL competition. Now they are thinking of having an enquiry into why the Victorian teams are struggling. Trouble is that these have all been knee jerk reactions and not good for footy.

We tried to field a stand alone VFL side and couldn't afford it and neither could most of the other Melbourne teams. I even remember the club offering to let all reserves team games be played at Princes Park but the AFL said no.

I quite like our association with Preston. It's not perfect but nothing ever is and our youngsters get to play in the second highest level of competition in this State and some kids who miss out on the draft or get delisted by one can get the opportunity to present their claims to another AFL affiliated club. IMO Iaccobucci wouldn't be a bad pick up for the Blues.

I believe the biggest problem between the Bullants and the Blues is that the two coaches don't speak and so the Bullants coach doesn't know what the senior coach wants him to do with certain players. Likewise the senior coach doesn't know how the Bullants players are going when given certain instructions.

I've been down to watch some of the Bullants games and heard the 1/4 and 3/4 time instructions. Mitchell seems to have the right balance of coaching and developing players and certainly plays the Blues in different positions. The rules are 12:10 and certainly the Bullants play 12 Blues players each week.

In normal circumstances with 22 players in the seniors and 12 in the Bullants plus 1 or 2 injuries just about our whole list is playing each week and given that we have 3 players on long term injuries they are all playing.

Bower is always being reminded to concentrate as he seems to zone off his man. He has been played at half back and also wing but IMHO doesn't work hard enough. Perhaps I should re-phrase that he's not consistent enough. Maybe it comes too easy because when he's hot he's very good but then he goes missing.

Indie · **Joined:** Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:28 am **Posts:** 1073

budzy wrote:

Indie wrote:

budzy wrote:

I'd be rapt if Mitch was appointed Carltons VFL coach.

Has hardly put a foot wrong developing our kids and getting them back on track after they've returned from the seniors gathering splinters. :wink:

Yep, look what he's done with JK. After just 1 game and no training sessions with him, he's produced a great performance :shock:

The cynics might suggest that a No. 4 pick who stands at 195 cm and 100 kg would be too good for the VFL in his 2nd year, but that's too negative eh?

But you look at the brilliant way he's brought the best out of Bower. Ok, Bower's year this year has been a disappointment after his big finish iagainst Sydney last year. And it wasn't Mitchell's fault he didn't play him in the VFL Grand Final, was it? But his insistence on Bower tagging his opponent tightly rather than playing his natural game will be good for him, won't it? Just as long as Pagan doesn't do the same - you know he always kills creativity ...

But he's done so well bringing Raso along. Sure, Raso hasn't played too many good games, and Mitchell hasn't bothered to play him much in the seniors. But at VFL level, injuries are a real explanation for such developmental delays. As long as Pagan doesn't try to use the same excuse in the seniors.

But you can see the impressive development he's brought out in Walker, Betts, Murphy and Gibbs. Sure, he hasn't actually spent much time with them. But it's the vibe.

Yeah thatâ€™s right, Pagan is correct in his thinking that weâ€™re a finals chance coz his man SuperLance is a dominant CHF so JK will just have to watch and learn from the Super CHF for the time being â€¦sheesh
Bowerâ€™s in his 2nd year only .. Should he be an established AFL attacking defender by now?? Mitchellâ€™s teaching him the fine art of when to attack and when to defend. Youâ€™ve got no idea by the sounds of it.
Rasoâ€™s gone from one injury to the next. Heâ€™s only played NB reserves when starting back after injury and would be playing every NB senior game if not for the automatic NB contracted player selections and 12:10 rule.
I tend to agree with DOAâ€™s thoughts on Denisâ€™ development of AW.
If you think Paganâ€™s got anything to do with Murphy & Gibbsâ€™ abilities youâ€™re deluded.
Bettsâ€™ role in the team is hardly rocket science.

Fair dinkum, some of the crap written lately is mind boggling.

Excuses, excuses :lol:

Injuries, youth and inexperience - can't you come up with something better than that Budzy? You've obviously missed the many declarations on this site that those are not acceptable excuses in the footy world ;-)

budzy · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:17 am **Posts:** 8128

Indie wrote:

budzy wrote:

Indie wrote:

budzy wrote:

I'd be rapt if Mitch was appointed Carltons VFL coach.

Has hardly put a foot wrong developing our kids and getting them back on track after they've returned from the seniors gathering splinters. :wink:

Yep, look what he's done with JK. After just 1 game and no training sessions with him, he's produced a great performance :shock:

The cynics might suggest that a No. 4 pick who stands at 195 cm and 100 kg would be too good for the VFL in his 2nd year, but that's too negative eh?

But you look at the brilliant way he's brought the best out of Bower. Ok, Bower's year this year has been a disappointment after his big finish iagainst Sydney last year. And it wasn't Mitchell's fault he didn't play him in the VFL Grand Final, was it? But his insistence on Bower tagging his opponent tightly rather than playing his natural game will be good for him, won't it? Just as long as Pagan doesn't do the same - you know he always kills creativity ...

But he's done so well bringing Raso along. Sure, Raso hasn't played too many good games, and Mitchell hasn't bothered to play him much in the seniors. But at VFL level, injuries are a real explanation for such developmental delays. As long as Pagan doesn't try to use the same excuse in the seniors.

But you can see the impressive development he's brought out in Walker, Betts, Murphy and Gibbs. Sure, he hasn't actually spent much time with them. But it's the vibe.

Yeah thatâ€™s right, Pagan is correct in his thinking that weâ€™re a finals chance coz his man SuperLance is a dominant CHF so JK will just have to watch and learn from the Super CHF for the time being â€¦sheesh
Bowerâ€™s in his 2nd year only .. Should he be an established AFL attacking defender by now?? Mitchellâ€™s teaching him the fine art of when to attack and when to defend. Youâ€™ve got no idea by the sounds of it.
Rasoâ€™s gone from one injury to the next. Heâ€™s only played NB reserves when starting back after injury and would be playing every NB senior game if not for the automatic NB contracted player selections and 12:10 rule.
I tend to agree with DOAâ€™s thoughts on Denisâ€™ development of AW.
If you think Paganâ€™s got anything to do with Murphy & Gibbsâ€™ abilities youâ€™re deluded.
Bettsâ€™ role in the team is hardly rocket science.

Fair dinkum, some of the crap written lately is mind boggling.

Excuses, excuses :lol:

Injuries, youth and inexperience - can't you come up with something better than that Budzy? You've obviously missed the many declarations on this site that those are not acceptable excuses in the footy world ;-)

Excuses?

What excuses??

'Earth to Indie!' ..'Earth to Indie!'... Mitchell doesn't use or need excuses because he actually gets results ..Pagan on the other hand... :wink:

:bizzare:

Indie · **Joined:** Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:28 am **Posts:** 1073

Yep, almost being overrun by the Box Hill Hawks was a mighty fine effort. Come to think of it, there's been a few last quarter fade-outs this year in the Bullants. Seems he isn't rotating the mids off the bench all that well ...

budzy · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:17 am **Posts:** 8128

Indie wrote:

Yep, almost being overrun by the Box Hill Hawks was a mighty fine effort. Come to think of it, there's been a few last quarter fade-outs this year in the Bullants. Seems he isn't rotating the mids off the bench all that well ...

...give it up Indie :wink:

Indie · **Joined:** Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:28 am **Posts:** 1073

Why, when I'm having so much fun Budzy ;-)

Bunks · **Posted:** Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:46 am

Article in today's Age:

http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/blues ... 19147.html

budzy · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:17 am **Posts:** 8128

Bunks wrote:

Article in today's Age:

http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/blues ... 19147.html

..all the best for the future, bullies ...AdiÃ³s! :-D

camel · **Posted:** Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:44 pm

GO BLUES TWOS!!!

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