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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 8:51 pm 
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Pros:
Waite showing real dash and brilliance. So exciting to watch.
Akland much better today.
Gibbs...Gibbsy...the Gibbsmeister....showed tantalising glimpses of the player he will become. Loved him.
Joey...after some bad mistakes that cost goals, he came back and was much better at checking his opponent...some lovely hard tackles.
Kouta. After a very lacklustre start, we saw some Kouta of old.

Cons:
Waite...still having brain-drains. So frustrating to watch.
Decision making....appalling at times.
Clean possessions...unsighted at times. Fumble fumble fumble.


Lots of glimpses of the future....the boys just have to learn from their mistakes.


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pros

attack on the ball
desperation to win the ball
wilingness to complete
players hitting up fwd options other than fev
coahing staff exploiting oppositions weakness
quick movement through the corridoor
matching it with a (top 4 side IMO) for the majority of the match


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Pros:
Ackland after half time
Gibbs showing why he will be star
Walker in the second half
Waite in the second half
Houla and Carrots all game
Kouta in the second half
Murphy classy as usual
Playing on and taking risks in the second half
Andersons tackling was awesome

Cons:
Stagnant second qtr fell right into Crows hands (we looked so much better when we played on and moved the ball quickly)
Backline leaks too much
Lacking the poise and finish - it showed in the last qtr when we had chances
Inability to play 4 qtrs

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Elwood Blues1 wrote:
Josh is a good work horse but rucking isnt his go...only as an emergency.
Being pick 4 has placed big expectations on him.......he isnt the next Stephen Kernahan so its time to lower those expectations and get realistic on what he is capable of producing...he will be a valuable senior player doing the unfashionable but he wont be kicking bags of goals every week or pulling down screamers.
Give him 2-3 years and he will be a reliable player in the Earl Spalding mode....


Hope you get the wrong like your similar observation about Gibbs being "A Poor Mans Houla"


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Pros:
Waite in bursts
Simpson - threw himself into everything
Lance in a few contests - the 3 on 1 especially
Carrots - Solid
Houla- negated Macleod
Kouta - some moments of old
Fish - some nice grabs
Hartlett - Great tackle and smother in front of goal
Gibbs - Great poise and bounce back after last week
AW - Running hard through the middle

Cons:
- The number of times we had a player on their own 40 out directly in front and kicked over their head to a contest - often in the pocket.
- Midfield pressure on the rebound, far too many uncontested end to end runs from Adelaide
- The free against Simmo for initiating shoulder to shoulder contact in a marking contest 15 metres out from Adelaides goal :shock:
- The push in the back Harlett got from Welsh, that resulted in a mark and goal, when the umpire was on the other side of the contest and had plain view of it :shock:
-Umpires number 3 and 16 in general being pedantic @#$%&! tools

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PROS: We played the same as we have every other week
CONS: We played the same as we have every other week


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Donstuie wrote:
PROS: We played the same as we have every other week
CONS: We played the same as we have every other week


agree! im mighty flower sick and tired of this, yes good game but without the 4 points it counts for jack shit!

The demise of Pagan continues...


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Pros:
Initial positioning. Our best ruckman started in the ruck, Setanta played in defence, Lance and Hoops didn't.
Selection. Picking players to keep the bench warm instead of players who could be used in a midfield rotation. Jordan Russell would have been more useful.
Game plan. Kicking to someone other than Fev vs multiple opponents or kicking high when Fev is covered by multiple opponents to allow Waite to fly late.
Excellent game by Carrazzo on Edwards.
Kouta's performance.

Cons:
The loss of midfield drive when Carrazzo followed Edwards into our backline. He still kept Edwars quiet but we really missed his clearance work and link running.

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He won't get a lot of recognition for this but Bentick was at the bottom of almost every pack today

Tackles wise, he had another 11 to take him to the number one tackler in the competition

Just thought he deserved some recognition for the hard work he does defensively for our team

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He won't get a lot of recognition for this but Bentick was at the bottom of almost every pack today

Tackles wise, he had another 11 to take him to the number one tackler in the competition

Just thought he deserved some recognition for the hard work he does defensively for our team


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Pros

Simmo ran hard all day took gutsy marks and put his body on the line. Inspiring display.
Pagan finally listening and removing Houla from our backline
Setanta playing down back. At this stage needs to cement his position and gain experience in the one spot rather than be played in ruck to fill our other deficiencies.
Cain's best game although must say he still did not beat his rucking opponent. Looked more interested
Kouta's best game in a while. Still a liability when he is without the ball
Hartlett and Anderson. Made a few basic mistakes but at least they can show our more experienced players on the art of tackling. Both go in hard
Carazzo is steadily improving his oveerall game.

Cons
Our second quarter. What was that?
Forward game plan. They kicked to an open forward line, ours was kept congested. Players lijke Bentick, Scotland Walker to name a few rather than holding on to the ball and waiting for good leading options just bombed it long, whereas Adelaide were more methodical in kicking it into space for their forwards to lead into to take a comfortable chest mark. Until we get players with quality disposal kicking to our forwards we will continue to struggle.
Lack of forward pressure. Can't recall their defenders being put under pressure by our forwards in their back 50 as they ran the ball out of defence.. When they turned it over it would generally be far away from their goals, wherwas we conceded goals from costly turn overs in out backline. We did not move the ball out of defence well at all. Scotland got pinged for holding the balll because he failed to release the ball to his first option. Players not having confidence in their teammates regardless of whether they are the best option is a real concern. Couple of times we had players standing on their own in the middle but we instead kicked the ball long into marking contests.
Statistics don't give you the full picture. We had an equal number of clearances, but our's where nowhere near as clean an decisive.
Have now lost 7 out of 8 last quarters. Our last quarter fade outs must be more than running out of legs. We went defensive as soon as we went ahead. Our mindset changed from playing the attacking football that got us in front. Basically, we lack self belief.
Kennedy's confidence is shot. Until the players start believing in him and pas him the pill, will struggle to gain form
Our forward line was too tall. We had no crumbers and when the ball fell to ground after a marking contests their backline moved it with ease. Really missed Betts and his defensive pressure. Needed another goal kicking midfielder up there t ofeed off our big men.
Our tackling is pathetic. Considering the Storm are joint teneants, they have no excuse on the art of tackling. Too often when tackled the Adelaide players would release the ball by hand.
Not enough game time to Hartlett. Has waited a long time andshould have been brought in sooner.our
Saddington is soft. Would rather develop a youngster.
One change Denis. Saddington out , Benjamin in. More pace needed.

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Have to admit I was quite amazed to see that Carlton was the number one team this season for hitouts to advantage (before this game)!!

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Have to admit I was quite amazed to see that Carlton was the number one team this season for hitouts to advantage (before this game)!!


yeah that was a :shock: moment

i think cloke was a big part of that

can we get a breakdown of hitouts to advantage by player ?

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Yep Kennedy, hartlett and Anderson dominating the bench once again, Kennedy has to be the best on bench week in week out.


Kennedy actually got the most game time out of the three and did bugger all.....


What do you expect from a kid who was recruited as a CHF and has been thrown in as a relief ruckman? As usual, he tried his guts out and did a couple of good things.


It was interesting to see what Brisbane did with Mitch Clark tonight. They played J Brown as a decoy and made Clark the focal point. The player that the midfielders should kick it to at nearly every opportunity. Why don't we do the same with JK? :?

Waite, Gibbs were very good. Also Houlihan and Carrazzo with their tags on McLeod and Edwards respectively, although it is a reflection on our list that we have to use two playmakers in tagging roles :?


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Jarusa wrote:
Have to admit I was quite amazed to see that Carlton was the number one team this season for hitouts to advantage (before this game)!!


yeah that was a :shock: moment

i think cloke was a big part of that

can we get a breakdown of hitouts to advantage by player ?

Call ChampionData. :(

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dont like my luck with the fort knox championdata is

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Effes wrote:
kennyhunter wrote:
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Yep Kennedy, hartlett and Anderson dominating the bench once again, Kennedy has to be the best on bench week in week out.


Kennedy actually got the most game time out of the three and did bugger all.....


What do you expect from a kid who was recruited as a CHF and has been thrown in as a relief ruckman? As usual, he tried his guts out and did a couple of good things.


It was interesting to see what Brisbane did with Mitch Clark tonight. They played J Brown as a decoy and made Clark the focal point. The player that the midfielders should kick it to at nearly every opportunity. Why don't we do the same with JK? :?



But Brisbane lost? :?

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Jarusa wrote:
Effes wrote:
kennyhunter wrote:
MonstaBlue wrote:
bluesinsider wrote:
Yep Kennedy, hartlett and Anderson dominating the bench once again, Kennedy has to be the best on bench week in week out.


Kennedy actually got the most game time out of the three and did bugger all.....


What do you expect from a kid who was recruited as a CHF and has been thrown in as a relief ruckman? As usual, he tried his guts out and did a couple of good things.


It was interesting to see what Brisbane did with Mitch Clark tonight. They played J Brown as a decoy and made Clark the focal point. The player that the midfielders should kick it to at nearly every opportunity. Why don't we do the same with JK? :?



But Brisbane lost? :?


Yes they did, it is just a comment on forward structure.


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Effes wrote:
Jarusa wrote:
Effes wrote:
kennyhunter wrote:
MonstaBlue wrote:
bluesinsider wrote:
Yep Kennedy, hartlett and Anderson dominating the bench once again, Kennedy has to be the best on bench week in week out.


Kennedy actually got the most game time out of the three and did bugger all.....


What do you expect from a kid who was recruited as a CHF and has been thrown in as a relief ruckman? As usual, he tried his guts out and did a couple of good things.


It was interesting to see what Brisbane did with Mitch Clark tonight. They played J Brown as a decoy and made Clark the focal point. The player that the midfielders should kick it to at nearly every opportunity. Why don't we do the same with JK? :?



But Brisbane lost? :?


Yes they did, it is just a comment on forward structure.


Well I can comment on plenty of losing forward structures as well.

Is the point that JK should be played at FF for a while? That I would agree with. :wink:

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Jarusa wrote:
Effes wrote:
Jarusa wrote:
Effes wrote:
kennyhunter wrote:
MonstaBlue wrote:
bluesinsider wrote:
Yep Kennedy, hartlett and Anderson dominating the bench once again, Kennedy has to be the best on bench week in week out.


Kennedy actually got the most game time out of the three and did bugger all.....


What do you expect from a kid who was recruited as a CHF and has been thrown in as a relief ruckman? As usual, he tried his guts out and did a couple of good things.


It was interesting to see what Brisbane did with Mitch Clark tonight. They played J Brown as a decoy and made Clark the focal point. The player that the midfielders should kick it to at nearly every opportunity. Why don't we do the same with JK? :?



But Brisbane lost? :?


Yes they did, it is just a comment on forward structure.


Well I can comment on plenty of losing forward structures as well.

Is the point that JK should be played at FF for a while? That I would agree with. :wink:


I think a stint at full forward would be good for him; it could reduce the opposition's ability to just pick the ball off.


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