How does Hawks give Freo a hiding in Subiaco, Collingwood beat the Eagles,Richmond playing great football and Western Bulldogs playing not to bad it's time some of the people in the club get the flick.

What is the fitnest coach doing?
Is liberatore there as a coach of something or a coach on how to get our players suspended.

Are the players on Drugs, They play like they are most of the time looking at the sky with the hands down there pants.

Is our Reserve Coaches coaching well enough.

Playing Whitnall in the backline is telling everyone we are not here to win just try to defend how much goals will be kicked.



Carlton Fans after a loss,above and below


Maybe we just play Lift 'U' Up (Carlton) by GOTTHARD that was a good song on Rage Saturday.

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Ian Collins could have some questions to answer from the powers above if you ask me. Signing Dennis for an extra 3 years could be the demise of Ian why? We will not play finals for atleast 5 years Kouta, Skinny, Campo and French are nearing the end of there careers they are our 4 leaders who carry this club and when they leave this will leave a huge hole jus like we have experianced to years back when Rats, Mckay, Hickmont, Braddles even as far back as Sticks, Dean a SOS.

There is no disputing that we have a poor list i say the worst in the AFL, we have not seen the worst yet. Collo extended his contract for a further 3 years thats $1,950,000 just to pick the top draft picks for the next 2 or 3 years for me Dennis has done his job he provided us with some success last year and this year just what the current board wanted but to move foward i think we dont need Dennis we need young talented kids. The problem i have with Dennis is that he is more interested in his horses than the players i know in his last year at the Kangas he canceled several training sessions at the last minute so he could attend race meets and to the disgust of some of the senior players they confronted Dennis about this once the major power brokers found out about his doings they decided that Dennis had to go and his management made out as if they wouldnt come to the table with an offer. He does not take any interest in the lifes of our players these words came from a current players mouth who said that he is not a leader and players are losing respect and that the club is painting a pretty picture but inside its a mess and he actually pleded for help because he is the only one who seems to play with any passion.

Hawthorn's win today is what Carlton is very much capable of. Infact, Hawthorns win today was almost identicle to our Wizz Cup campaign!

Played fast running football down the centre and hit the main forwards ON THE @#$%&! CHEST!

After watching that game, i'm almost convinced that Pagan is loosing on purpose. I have faith in this list to play tough competitive football and i don't want piss weak excuses.

'Our list is the worst in the AFL' - BULLSHIT!

'The players are down on confidence' - WELL RESTORE IT!

'We have traveled quite a bit and our players are tired' - LOOK AT THE LADDER, MOST OF THE TEAMS HAVE TRAVELED TWICE AS MUCH AS US!

'We're disadvantaged because most teams watched us in the Wizzard Cup' - THEY PLAYED THE SAME AMOUNT OF GAMES WE DID!

Excuses. I don't want excuses, i want my team to go out there and play like they want to win. I haven't seen that since the Wizard Cup! Sorry to say it Dennis but there ARE NO excuses! Get over it, grow some balls and start earning the $000's per year that we the supporters are paying you for!

'C'mon, become a member.........and we'll give you something to sing about!' ....................What, extra draft picks?

ryan2000, Carlton are not capable of Hawthorn's win today.
they're not good enough. how could you suggest otherwise?
they haven't played one good game all season. Saving a quarter or 2 against Hawthonrn, Essendon* and Port combined, they've been pretty damn ordinary all season.

*Sigh!*

How can i suggest otherwise..........................? Because you cannot tell me that West Coast, Melbourne and the Bulldogs just rolled over and died for us to win a pre-season cup! We played fantastic football during that campain. Look at every other team that performed well during pre-season.

Richmond, won 3 or 4 pre-season games. Where are they now?
West Coast, only lost came at our hands. Where are they now?
Melbourne, won 3 of 4 games. Where are they sitting on the ladder?
Essendon*, lost all of their games, where are they sitting.

That's how i can suggest otherwise.

Carlton ARE capable of winning like Hawthorn did today!

If thats the case why did they(North) try and keep him and are dirty on him leaving... and tried to organise for corporates to pay his contract to bring it u to the kind of dollars the other big coaches get when North are broke????
Look, Denis loves his horses.. Sheedy loves his garden..

So what????

to suggest Denis is unprofessional enough to cancel traing in the last minute to go see his horse is ridiculous.
You obviously have no clue....

The club is painting a pretty picture but inside its a mess....

How do you know????

Anyway........At least youre more interesting than verbs......

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Ryan 2000 - I like your positivity. It is refreshing amongst all the doom and gloom.


In fact, it would be interesting to see if we could collectively contribute 25 positives of the season so far.

People say rehashed players are hacks - but if that is the case why is half of Port's team players from other clubs?

Recruiting from other clubs is a legitimate way of recruitment.

POSITIVES:

1) Winning the wizard cup = we will be one of only two teams that will win a premiership this year.

2) seeing eddie betts have an impact in the hawks and bombers game.

3) seeing the potential of chambers in the wizard cup.

There are many more positives out there.

By the way, i watched the adelaide game and noticed that they always go through the corridor - control the corridor and you can at least get within 20 points of them.

Synbad why would i make up such shit, go and ask some of the kangas players cause thats were i got it from. I dont know if you have problems reading but i said his management made out as if that was the situation that the Kangas desperately wanted to keep him but i know he was pushed out the door. I spoke to someone within the club at a function and he said that they were glad he was gone. Go down to the Leveson Synbad you will hear some interesting storie about our GREAT MAN DENNIS.

Your not the only one with credible facts here mate.

Kangas players? Were you known as Just Waite on TBV? I seem to recall some (in)credible facts coming from Kangas players last year...

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no i am also registered as ballistic blues on TBV website and some of what i have said has come from the mouth of a Carlton player, but has been backed up by the owner of the Leveson (now who might that be)

Like any coach that was at a place for as long as Denis was at the Kangas there are going to be players that were happy to see the back of him. As someone who knows a number of the North players, some love him like a dad and were sad to see him go. Look at the legacy that Denis left at the Kangaroos to determine whether his deeds were appreciated. The players think of each other like family. Where do you think that comes from? Do you remember the rabble they were before Denis took over? Clearly everyone is frustrated but now is not the time to shoot the one thing the Club has got going for it!

Yeah the senior core group the carey, archer, stevo, martyn talk to the younger ones and ask them what they think.

You meen the younger guys from the "what ever, i do what i want generation?"

Dennis Pagan is a better coach now than he ever was, experiance is priceless.........

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Youre kidding. Youre basing this crap on Corey. The Kangas dont even like this guy anymore. Obviously he and Denis dont like each other. Is he your credible source.
N.B He wasnt even at the Kangas in Denis' last year you genius.

If Kangas were so desperate to get rid of him, why would they organise a job at The Heral Sun, TV, corporate speaking appointments etc to bump up the salary. Why would they bother. All they had to do was let his contract run out and then hire the SuperCoach. BTW Denis got his boys into the finals in his last year with a worse list then the Supercoach. Does that show you that the players had enough of him

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