ZING!

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Yeahhhhhh..........

that's what I'M talkin bout............!


kindest regards tommi

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that'siti'mnotchangingthistagain......!

hey tommi, maybe Pagan could go work for windscreens o'briens?

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Heehee................

two hundred and 30 SQUID it's costing The Chief...........!

it's a glorious day............!


kindest regards tommi

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that'siti'mnotchangingthistagain......!

surely the players need to shoulder some of the blame if we are going to go down the path of laying blame, they are just as responsible for our performances as pagan is.

Sure - the players do need to share the blame, but ultimately it's the coach who's accountable for performance, especially over the course of a number of years and with personnel changes.

If you were convinced that DP was not going to coach in 2008 then it would be a no lose situation to declare that you will not renew your membership in 2008.

When he goes at the end of 2007 you can safely say it was the pressure of supporters like yourself that got the job done.

... and if by some miracle he does coach in 2008 then you have the warm satisfaction of removing your support of the club you love.

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Memberhip, though vital is not the only way to support the club.

No doubt given my solid belief in the value of membership, I'll go harder with other financial efforts and general support to help out.

But I am trying to make a statement here that the Club understands and this is one of the best ways I know how.

I realise that this then is all a bit contradictory, but you tell me whether a statement like this won't get the Club's notice - right or wrong!

Everyone, understand this.

IT IS BECAUSE I DO SUPPORT THE CLUB THAT I HAVE MADE THIS STATEMENT!

You do what you believe is right and I'm happy to keep copping accusations of not being a loyal supporter cause I know where I'm at with all of this. I think it's the guy in the wheelchair in Family Guy who says it best... BRING IT OOONNNN...

Rich

We wont win 10 + games this year or finish 10th as the Pres suggested. Therefore, its safeto say that Pagan's sorry ass will be gone !

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Rich, the reason you should always buy a membership is the very same reason that if, come the end of the season, you don't want Pagan there (ie we have underperformed), he won't be.

Four months ago, the members spoke up and made a statement that ineptitude will not be tollerated, and booted out Smorgon. This opened the door for Pratt to come in.

Pratt has, as yet, not had a reasonable opportunity to delete Pagan from the equation, although the way things are going, and with our upcoming draw, that opportunity may not be far off.

Rest assured that if Pagan does not meet expectations this year (and Pratt has quite clearly indicated that 10 wins is his expectation), he will be shown the door.

Smorgon had this opportunity, and blew it. Pratt will not, and he is President because the members with their voting rights had their say.

So if you choose to give up your membership, that is your choice, and you have every right to make that choice. But in doing so, you give up your most meaningful, significant way of contributing to this Club, AND OF CHANGING THE THINGS WITH WHICH YOU ARE UNHAPPY.

If we'd all done as you are suggesting last year, and not renewed our memberships for 2006, Smorgon would still be President. Malouf would still be CEO. Just think about that.

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Mens sana in corpore sano.

Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!

I don't understand why a attention seeking "I'll burn my membership card" gets so many reactions.
So what, we have thousands of lapsed members each year - happens at all clubs. As long as we sign more up then we loose I don't care.

oh damn, you're not going to sign up???


holy shit......

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Back like a raging case of pubic lice

You could have gone a lot further with that little lot with the double use of the indefinite article etc...

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)

I want Pagan gone as much as the next bloke, but don't hold the club to ransom for it.

When you got given out in the backyard when perhaps you wern't out, did you grab your bat and ball and high-tail it for your bedroom ?

Let me just say the action outlined in the first post will not make an ounce of difference to the club next year. Someting like 5000 members dont re-join from year to year. It won't even register. All it means is you wont have a membership or say in any election.

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T E A M

Hmm, last time I checked we were doing ok membership-wise...

So - if the numbers are going to be as 'mediocre' as this year, both the club and I can deal with that...


By the way, I found a Richmond scarf on the ground after the match on Saturday night... is it yours?!

Have you watched a game, apparently not!

Have a look at the crap St KIlda and Hawthorn provided last week and then have a look at the way Carlton played. At least they had a red hot go. Do you any idea of what the loss of Stevens and Cloke means to the team.

I'm sick to death of people like you carrying on like a pork chop about Pagan and the team. Wake up to yourself. They are all having a red hot go, however, most of our team is still young and do not have the bodies or the experience to maintain the effort over the full journey. It will happen over the remainder of this year and the next as we get more games into the kids. We will only get better.

If you don't want to be a part of our resurgence fine, take your ticket and shove it or do whatever you want with it, But for goodness sake stop annoying us with this endless drivel about Pagan. If you can't post something positive about the team, at least post something constructive about what to do about the "perceived problem" - like a new Coach or different strategy. Get a life!

Buy a membership regardless of the coach.
I wonder how many extra members we would have if Ratts/Voss were coach.Would we nudge 40k

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I see you watching me watching you.

For Good or not, certainly one of the goals of my original post was to provoke a bit of discussion and reaction - 57 responses and over 1400 views to date, I think I've done a bit of provoking and hopefully got a few people thinking.

Yeh, this could be a bit self serving, I mean, look at my record of self serving posts since I joined TC...

Guys and gals - I get it.. I get that it must be an absolutely extraordinary thing for anyone who counts themselves to be a true blue believer to say they wouldn't buy a membership in support of their club.

That they would deny themselves the very thing that has saved this club at least once, probably a few times now, that is, voting rights.

I really do get it.. I don't often boast, but I've been privilege to membership insights which, honestly, most supporters would not normally have access to. Really scary stuff too believe it or not.

And yet, here I am, heart on my sleeve, opening myself up for attack and still sticking by my statement!

This is important s..t for the club - for flower's sake, I'm not doing this light heartedly, nor am I doing it without due consideration!

Desperate times call for desperate measures. Some of you guys know the role I have in support of the club and how severely I'm putting my balls on the line with all of this.

Statement still stands and I really haven't heard anything that has convinced me to alter my stance although there's been some great arguments put forward.

And, in fact, if you knew all of the facts, you'd possibly be even more slightly encouraged by what I'm doing.

Keep em coming.. "Shields up Worf"..

Rich

Fair enough Rich, we know you run a supporters group for the club and you rightly say that might have consequences for you. But you deal with the club quite regularly, you could easily make your feelings known to people at the club and still have the same effect.

But in your original post you are asking people to join with you in not renewing THEIR memberships.

If the point of your exercise was to exert some of your own influence on the club using the contacts you have why ask for people to join you?

Are you trying to start a petition? Put more pressure on than you would alone by gettings name? What was the point of asking other supporters not to renew if they dod not have the influence you have.

If you are not collecting names that is basically hoping that the club has less revenue with no extra influence on the club re coaching decisions.

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