:sigh:

First of all, Bluebern reported from one of his BlueSuits functions last year that JK was measured at 198cm. Who knows, maybe he is 199-200cm by now. Apparantly Wayne Hughes said then that JK could well turn out to be a ruckman.

Secondly, JK was reportedly leaping around in the ruck yesterday at Ballarat outperforming our other young rucks.

Thirdly, how is JK going to develop as a CHF when the Supercoach DP has pegged his man SuperLance as our shining light in that position.
If SuperLance is persisted with at CHF then JK’s only position IMO is as a tall FP relief ruckman (& poor young Harts will keep rotting away at Cramer St.)

Fourthly, Aisake is learning & progressing beautifully. He’s learning the art at a higher level now than last year which is great for him. Don’t be in such a rush for him. His time will come.

Fifthly we haven’t got a full back. Setanta had initially progressed enough in that role to suggest he had a real future as a dominant fullback. Just ask Jono Brown.

Sixthly, Ackland is being paid a frontliners salary so he should be made to work his arse of as our #1 ruckman by putting his body on the line and contesting and making life extremely difficult for the oppositions rucks.

Fancy taking away a potentially A grade fullback in Setanta and putting him in the ruck just to cover Acklands lazy arse!! Bullshit decision by whoever made it and a copout!!!
I really hope Ratten didn’t mean what he said.

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Not when the Tassie Devils are 1-6. They're not a happy bunch,

He's still listed as 195cm on the updated Website. I don't know where that 198cm thing come from.

All i'm saying is by playing Aisakie, it would free up Setanta to go down as Full Back and we could leave Kennedy up forward.

At the end of the day, Setanta is doing a much better job than Kennedy did and i would prefer Kennedy to play as the KP we drafted him for.

And Setanta was pretty soundly beaten as a Full Back in his past couple of games so the move has rejuvinated him, which was just what he needed.

The 1st half in the Collingwood game, Setanta Killed Fraser. Fraser got the better of him in the 2nd half and destroyed Ackland, but i thought Setanta played some of his best football for the year in that 1st half.

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- Aristotle

i wanna throw an idea out there.

What about the blues recruit Dale Thomas as our new coach, and then buy Reiwoldt and or Del Santo who are supposedly loyal followers of Thomas?

Sorry if someone else has already said this.

Sorry i'm watching the Collingwood match and said Dale Thomas instead of Grant Thomas.

How i Love Dale Thomas's beautful new bleech job!

You're taking the piss, right .....

Patience boys......patience.....we kicked 20.10 and got beaten by 17 points by a team who had won 4 in a row that was high on confidence.

We gave away stupid inexperienced free kicks that gave them 5 goals, and Fev ended up on one leg.....Betts is NOT such a big loss.....he's virtually a burst player.

Let's move on to the next game under Denis.....he's the Coach.

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I sure am

If Bond can get Carlton playing a game as enjoyable and as attacking as the one the Dogs play on the Dome he'd be a great appointment.

And Bond is a former Carlton player like Ratten.

Is Bond high profile enough or will we want a name player?

Poaching Brad Scott from the Pies to work under someone like Voss wouldn't be a bad idea.

There's no doubt that Voss is THE new coach of choice; followed by McKenna; if you're looking at hard at it personnel......then; as usual......there's others who may be "prize gets"......that are out of left field ......that doesn't normally happen....so far anyway.

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Give it to braddles he wants the gig and you won't find anyone with more passion for carlton than him or a better leader

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confidence lost , everything lost

I'm curious. There's a bit of talk about Voss coachin a senior AFL team like carlton next year. But i cant get my head past the fact that he's just finished playing football and hasn't coached elite football before.

Is hea really ready for Carlton? Can someone enlighten me.

Most people in the know recon he is a one in a generation player that does not need to serve an apprenticeship as an assistant before getting the senior gig.

I think Buckley is another.

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So hard to earn, so easily burned
In the fullness of time
A garden to nurture and protect

#DopeThenStash

Voss would get an extra 20% out of the guys purely on the respect he would get garner from them

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Respect and Voss would be pretty much synonynous.

Sure, he would be an untried coach, but without Michael even having to open his mouth to mention it, it would come down to :

Ive won 3 flags, a brownlow, all australia etc.

Ive probably the most decorated coach you will ever play under

So what can you give me?

And if you had previouly played under a different, more controversial and from your point of view, less fresh coaching style, and were suddenly given a bit more freedom to run and create - there would suddenly be a bigger motivating factor there to perfrom and improve than had been there before.

Ditto (but to a bit of a lesser extent and for different reasons) for Ratten.

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Tim Watson stated on SEN this morning that you could put "Your House" on Voss coaching an AFL club next year. He said there were 4 possibilities.

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Not sure if it has been mentioned elsewhere in this thread, but it is good to see 3 former Carlton players coaching TAC Cup sides this year.

Hypothetically, if it was out of the three (Dean, Hickmott and Welsh) who would people like to see coaching the Blues?

Going by the way they played, I imagine teams under Hicky or Dean would be tough and uncompromising who would also be encouraged to back themselves in.

While on the other side, perhaps a team coached by Whoosha would be slightly more attacking.

Thoughts?

I can only go from what I have heard from Voss and Buckley when they have done special comments (Voss on Channel 10, Buckley on SEN).

Going by that, Buckley is STREETS ahead of Voss. His ability to analyse and explain the intricacies and tactics of what was going on in play was as good as anything I have heard from a special comments person, expert or commentator. He is also already playing a significant strategic role at Collingwood...look at the number of times he and Malthouse have 'discussions' (as distinct from Malthouse giving him instruction) between quarters when Buckley is playing.

Voss, and the other hand, contributes nothing of value as a comments man, somewhat like Silvagni.

Now I know that this doesn't necessarily mean he won't be able to coach, but I would be extremely wary of appointing him as senior coach without ANY coaching experience.

And I would be hammering on Buckley's door to be an assitant at Carlton next year. He will probably be Collingwood's next coach after Malthouse (unless Malthouse has some success, then the door could be open for Buckley to be a senior coach elsewhere), but will want to serve an apprenticeship elsewhere as an assistant first. We should grab him.

IMHO, Nathan Buckley will be a brilliant senior coach one day.

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Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!

So, there's two "once in a generation players"

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I think there is a lot of credance here. Martin Flanagan (Age writer) speaks very highly of his ability to articulate his ideas and his ability to analyse situations. We could do a lot worse!

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