There's no denying we are enduring the most frustrating, disappointing and horrible run in our Carlton supporting lives. But if you're too blinkered to see any positives at our club, even on field, then that's your problem.

We will come good. And I dare say it will be a lot sooner than you think. Let's hope, for your sake, it's before you've given up, hey.

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I agree with the sentiment of the author of this thread.

Not knocking Pratt for what he's done - it's a good start.

But the ultimate benchmark is onfield success.

Let's not be like Eddie McGuire talking up $100 million turnovers - I'd rather have the cup in my glass cabinet.

WOW never been called an author before, thanks for that!!!

That is my point exactly though mate, at teh end of the day who cares that the Filth have more money and members and supporters that anybody else, still no closer to winning a flag that us really!!! And as far as i can see, that equates to 10 years min!!!!

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No doubt tonight's loss was hard to take, and the pressure is mounting on the footy department (read into the coach, in particular) to net some + results. We need a change in coach, but I fear this won't happen until years' end, but I'm sure the planning is underway behind closed doors.

Off field it's coming together, and you cannot expect instant results, particularly from how far back we're coming from. I think it's fair that Swann, Icke and the staff are at least given the next pre-season to attempt to lure experienced talented players from other clubs - they cannot do anything about it at this stage other than plan.

Surely not many we're expecting to finish above bottom 4 of the ladder?

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

Check out these sites mate, you will love them!

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=25
http://www.csc.actebs.com.au

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Wangers wrote:

No doubt tonight's loss was hard to take, and the pressure is mounting on the footy department (read into the coach, in particular) to net some + results. We need a change in coach, but I fear this won't happen until years' end, but I'm sure the planning is underway behind closed doors.

Off field it's coming together, and you cannot expect instant results, particularly from how far back we're coming from. I think it's fair that Swann, Icke and the staff are at least given the next pre-season to attempt to lure experienced talented players from other clubs - they cannot do anything about it at this stage other than plan.

Surely not many we're expecting to finish above bottom 4 of the ladder?

Experienced talented players do not change clubs!!!

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Presenter, Mark Fine just said on SEN that he has it on good authority that Pagan is under microscope as we speak. We probably knew that anyway.

We have nothing to lose by giving Ratten/Mitchell a run for the rest of the season. At least we can find out if they can coach. We'll just frustratingly meander through the rest of the year otherwise.

They help, by assisting in the development of others like freeing up Murphy in the midfield (like Stevens would have, if he weren't injured)

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

If it were Judd, I bet it would!!!!

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

Hard to believe,but Mark Fine's a bigger wanker than me

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It's not great at present, but we are very close. A lot is expected from our base and from the AFLcommision. A lot is also celebrated in the current negative flux by our opposition.

We are very close.

Nick Stevens.

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good advice...maybe you can contemplate following it

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BlueDW wrote:

lol, maybe you should say nothing and appear stupid, rather than make comments and prove it!!!

good advice...maybe you can contemplate following it

Read what I was replying to you goose!!! As far my thoughts in this thread, they are accurate, this is a FOOTBALL club which should be priding itself on winning games, unfortunately we dont do that anymore and cant see us doing so again consistently for a long time to come!!!

I dont care if we end up like Ess or Coll with millions in the bank, a quality training facility, record ememberships etc, fact is we still wont be doing what the club was born to do!!! If I am in idiot for having these beliefs then so be it!!!

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your post was bagging richard pratt. Exactly what he could have done to improve the quality of the list at this stage is unclear. Many of our key personnel off field have changed. The coach's tenure is clearly under review given Pratt's statements that have been reported. I say again, what else is he supposed to do?

Spida Everrit.
Jason Akermanis.
Mal Michael.
Heath Black.
Josh Carr.
Tyson Stenglein.
Nathan Thompson.
Blake Caracella.

There's a sample from the last 3 off seasons. There's 4 or 5 premiership players in there.

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Actually I think having things right off the field ultimately lead to sucess on the field. Players are settled, working in comfortable environments without constant speculation about the future of the club.
Pratt can't bring experience to young players, only time can do that.

Richard Pratt, if you can do anything more than all the fantastic things you have already done you would get rid of that old, tired, stubborn mule of a coach that we are paying heaps of money to before he causes more damage to our young team.

For those who think that it takes time, we are young, we are inexperienced etc, look at Hawthorn, Collingwood, Port Adelaide and tell me they are not in the same boat. The difference is that the Coach has tailored a game plan to fit those players. Instead Pagan tries to change the players to suit his outdated plan. Does he not realise you need experience, and fast skillfull players for his game plan to work.

Idiot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am bloody sick to death of him. We need fresh ideas FAST................

BlueDW go support another club. You're not wanted at Carlton. This post is the worst I've ever seen. Thinking what Pratt is doing off the field isn't going to help the club long term on the field is brainless. I won't even go into why because it's that dumb. And yes we've had 5 bloody shit years, but comparing Carlton to St Kilda, Richmond, etc. is ignorant.

Last Premiership = 1995 (11 years ago)
Last Grand Final = 1999 (7 years ago)

St Kilda
Last Premiership = 1966
Last Grand Final = 1997

Richmond
Last Premiership = 1980
Last Grand Final = 1982

shall i go on?

Take a walk pall. This club doesn't need your type.

Pratt has so far turned this club around in 3-4 months but he has only done half the job ... hopeully by years end he will completely put into place a new regime.

Dump Pagan the sooner the better / remove Mitch years end unless something changes or the New 2008 Coach decides he should remain.


We are half way though changing over the Blues by 2008 this should be complete but with Pagan i doubt we can wait till 2008 i think we need to cut him and now

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