Our next coach?

JK · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:19 pm **Posts:** 2187

Further to what Redskin wrote, I heard today that the approach to Roos was made by Pratt and he hasnt necessairly knocked back the offer either..
All signs point to a Pagan sacking regardless..
Interesting times

4thchicken · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 12:44 am **Posts:** 3136

bluebeard wrote:

Synbad wrote:

Its all over for the older coaches i reckon....

I hope that Pagan plays him on the HBF.

Or maybe in the Ruck?

What are you thinking? The only role pagan would have him playing is as a tagger :lol:

camel · **Posted:** Tue May 15, 2007 12:13 am

Blue Beatle wrote:

Time to throw the cat amongst the pigeons.

Essendon* will miss the eight and not renew Sheedy's contract.
We will finish bottom four - Pagan gawn!!
So what about Sheedy at carlton - remember he almost came to us late 70's ?around 1979

Why would we get Sheedy when Gieschen is not coaching?

At least Fev might get some favours form the umpires with the Giesh at the helm.

Electric Blue · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:12 am **Posts:** 10076

I'm a country member....

bluebeard · **Posted:** Tue May 15, 2007 12:20 am

camelboy wrote:

Blue Beatle wrote:

Time to throw the cat amongst the pigeons.

Essendon* will miss the eight and not renew Sheedy's contract.
We will finish bottom four - Pagan gawn!!
So what about Sheedy at carlton - remember he almost came to us late 70's ?around 1979

Why would we get Sheedy when Gieschen is not coaching?

At least Fev might get some favours form the umpires with the Giesh at the helm.

That is the most frightening thing I have heard for a while....

Unleash the Giesch....

I get a shiver down my spine when I say that.

Blue Sombrero · **Posted:** Tue May 15, 2007 5:46 am

brycegibbs4 wrote:

TruBlueBrad wrote:

imitation_of_life wrote:

i reckon we should take our our pick of the coaches, the same way we did with Swann and Icke.

perhaps a big offer to neil craig? i personally think he's about the best going round

Did anyone hear the big rumor on SEN this morning?

Pratt has told Swann to get Paul Roos. Offer is reportedly for a 5 year deal between $4m-$6m.

I would be very worried about Paul Roos, purely because I think the way the Swans play destroys football. Personally, I'd almost rather lose than play their chipping the ball around game. What would be the chance of him changing tactics at a new club? I Have the same worries with Longmire.

Like you said I'd rather Worsfld

Good point about Roos. What we ned to consider is that we have tried to recruit a type of footballer to play a certain tpe of football and if we suddenly change direction to a chipping backwards brand, it might not necessarily suit the cattle we have spent the past few years getting and developing. I like the idea of a more reckless coach who can make instant decisions and changes on the field depending on the situation and I am not sure Roos is that. I think a young Sheedy was like that. Does that mean Mark Harvey will be similar? Maybe.

Blue Sombrero · **Posted:** Tue May 15, 2007 5:52 am

Effes wrote:

TruBlueBrad wrote:

Effes wrote:

How about in the last qtr when Russell could have taken an uncontested mark but decided to double fist it away.

I conceded that Russell may be playing without confidence, but it isn't unusual for a coach to tell his defenders to punch, most coaches will. Whitnall did the same thing. I remember Silvagni often punching when I thought he could have marked. Was that a lack of confidence because of the coach?

How about Gibbs or Walker?

I think Gibbs, like Murphy are natural footballers so don't really need any coaching. I don't think Gibbs has lost confidence. It's the athletic types and talls who need coaching/development who have either improved little or have gone backwards.

For example Setanta, Aisake....

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Blue Vain · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:35 am **Posts:** 17937

Blue Beatle wrote:

Time to throw the cat amongst the pigeons.

Essendon* will miss the eight and not renew Sheedy's contract.
We will finish bottom four - Pagan gawn!!
So what about Sheedy at carlton - remember he almost came to us late 70's ?around 1979

Interesting theory.

We have the 15th best tactician in the AFL and you want to recruit the 16th.

Deano Supremo · **Posted:** Tue May 15, 2007 8:11 am

Good lord.

We're not that desperate that we'd turn to Sheedy or Harvey.

Fair dinkum.

Indie · **Joined:** Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:28 am **Posts:** 1073

Blue Sombrero wrote:

Effes wrote:

TruBlueBrad wrote:

Effes wrote:

How about in the last qtr when Russell could have taken an uncontested mark but decided to double fist it away.

I conceded that Russell may be playing without confidence, but it isn't unusual for a coach to tell his defenders to punch, most coaches will. Whitnall did the same thing. I remember Silvagni often punching when I thought he could have marked. Was that a lack of confidence because of the coach?

How about Gibbs or Walker?

I think Gibbs, like Murphy are natural footballers so don't really need any coaching. I don't think Gibbs has lost confidence. It's the athletic types and talls who need coaching/development who have either improved little or have gone backwards.

For example Setanta, Aisake....

Stop trying to ruin elegant theories by throwing up inconvenient facts :evil:

dannyboy · **Posted:** Tue May 15, 2007 8:54 am

Sheedy! why not ask Barass if he'd like to coach us, or Hafey????

I know KB with Timmy Watson as his assistant.....

SurreyBlue · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:32 am **Posts:** 10461

Blue Vain wrote:

Blue Beatle wrote:

Time to throw the cat amongst the pigeons.

Essendon* will miss the eight and not renew Sheedy's contract.
We will finish bottom four - Pagan gawn!!
So what about Sheedy at carlton - remember he almost came to us late 70's ?around 1979

Interesting theory.

We have the 15th best tactician in the AFL and you want to recruit the 16th.

PS. Get Sheedy and loose members for life. :wink:

sheriffcassidy · **Posted:** Tue May 15, 2007 9:21 am

SurreyBlue wrote:

PS. Get Sheedy and loose members for life. :wink:

Well I hope we don't get Sheedy.

I certainly don't want to be loose...

ryan2000 · **Posted:** Tue May 15, 2007 9:55 am

I'd be going Guy McKenna for 3 reasons.....................

#1. It would piss-the-living-shit out of Eddie! :lol:

#2. Collingwoods list is equivilent to ours, and i'll argue that with whoever wants to take me on! It's true..............what they do have is a better coaching team to ours and i've got this feeling Guy McKenna is owed alot of thanks for how they are playing. They have really changed their style in the past couple of seasons.

#3. Collingwood is getting the best out of their youth! Pendlebury was always gonna be a superstar in my eyes, no doubt about that, but their other kids are flying and alot of praise should go to Collingwood for showing faith in them and using them correctly! (ie:- not piss-farting around getting 20min of game time).
We're not doing so well with our kids IMHO. Gibbs isn't half the player he was last year, Kennedy has so much tallent but no direction & could be confused, Blackwell is in-out-in-out-in & out again, & a bunch of others work their butts of but can't get promoted.

I'm sorry Denis.................i'm loosing faith yet again!

bluebeard · **Posted:** Tue May 15, 2007 10:00 am

ryan2000 wrote:

I'd be going Guy McKenna for 3 reasons.....................

#1. It would piss-the-living-shit out of Eddie! :lol:

#2. Collingwoods list is equivilent to ours, and i'll argue that with whoever wants to take me on! It's true..............what they do have is a better coaching team to ours and i've got this feeling Guy McKenna is owed alot of thanks for how they are playing. They have really changed their style in the past couple of seasons.

#3. Collingwood is getting the best out of their youth! Pendlebury was always gonna be a superstar in my eyes, no doubt about that, but their other kids are flying and alot of praise should go to Collingwood for showing faith in them and using them correctly! (ie:- not piss-farting around getting 20min of game time).
We're not doing so well with our kids IMHO. Gibbs isn't half the player he was last year, Kennedy has so much tallent but no direction & could be confused, Blackwell is in-out-in-out-in & out again, & a bunch of others work their butts of but can't get promoted.

I'm sorry Denis.................i'm loosing faith yet again!

Dead right...our list is equal to that of Collingwood's.

A good/contemporary coach can make a big difference.

Bluey would be a good choice.

JohnM · **Posted:** Tue May 15, 2007 10:23 am

Good nickname too.

womack · **Joined:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:29 am **Posts:** 2209

Electric Blue wrote:

I'm a country member....

I remember!

moshe25 · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2005 1:23 am **Posts:** 11671

Electric Blue wrote:

I'm a country member....

OK, OK. We remember........

buzzaaaah · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:31 am **Posts:** 17892

Collingwood have a band of experienced players that gets them through tight situations. Rocca, Clement, Lockyer, Burns, Buckley (when he plays), Fraser, Presti. Even Holland.That is what we dont have.
I agree that the Pies look better coached, but our lists are not equivalent

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