Also, Paddy Ryder is being played as a 3rd key back option for full matches

smart coaches know where to "hide" good youngsters to build their experience and confidence.

I would love to see Kennedy used in the same role for us for a season to be run into the play. Next week why can't we see Kennedy on Hale/Petrie, Waite on Edwards and O'hAilpin/Saddington/Thornton on Brown?

No reason why Kennedy couldn't have played on Travis Cloke yesterday.

I know Kennedy is a CHF but better to be run into the play if you're not getting it, and spend a full game on the field than doing bit-jobs in half the game or less up forward and not being used as a target

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Humpers I really hope Kennedy becomes a star, but we didn't have to take a KPP with pick #4, that sounds like our reasoning for getting Livo "next best tall", that doesn't matter much if you don't make it, or guys picked after you are much better than you. With our pick 4 we needed to select a player capable of being elite, I hope that is Josh Kennedy, but at this stage I am not sure he has the skills to be that. It is hard to be an elite CHF or CHB iof you are a lumberer without a big spring. Really hope he becomes elite, if he doesn't and a number of players picked after him out perform him, then I'll want Hughes head on a plate, because high draft picks aren't there to be wasted. Hughes also selected a CHF the year before in Hartlett who is languishing in the backline for the Ants. I just want to see something, good hands, some good attempts to mark, impose himself on a contest, just something.

Pros:

- Scotland again. Whoever says he's just a lose man in defence and that's about it doesnt know anything about football. He gets plenty of contested ball and uses it so well. Thank god we picked him up (and so cheaply) because we would be crap without him
- Simmo tried his heart out
- Murphy a gun
- Gibba tackling - love it
- Thought Whitnall was good (even though played out of position). His defensive work was very good until their midfield gained control of the game and gave Rocca supply outside 50 that no defender would have been able to stop

Cons:
- Lack of team work
- Selection of Bower when his form didn't warrant it. Blackwell should have been playing
- Pagan's use of the bench. Uterly woeful

He took at least 5 goal-scoring opportunity saving marks in defence both coming in from the side and running back with the flight. Would have been worse without him. Disposal wasn't bad either.

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- Igor Stravinsky

Not a fan of Saddington, not trying to stick up for him.

Hope his tape is watched by all defenders at the Blues.

Marked, punched and harrassed...and picked every option exactly when he had to.

Waite, Setanta, even Whitts ocassionally take the wrong option. I was at the game and Saddington did well.........mind you I'ld still rather have Setanta there, making errors and learning...but with T-bird out, you have to do something!

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Greg Lee

It was clear that Waite could have laid a hand on those marks that Rocca took. Rocca simply leaped. Whitnall was on his hammer, just that Lance couldn't jump.

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"A good composer does not initiate. He steals."

- Igor Stravinsky

Also why do so many Carlton players fly for the mark/spoil leaving their opponent on the ground to mop it up. Happens everywhere around the ground - most saliently in our forward line - where their HB line just mops up and runs it out.

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"A good composer does not initiate. He steals."

- Igor Stravinsky

Beacuse we're so badly coached our players can't even get the basics right.
We don't know where to run to in order to create some space or make a lead. We are systemless.

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Pros
Smurph
Scotland
Carlos
Fev
Lappin
1st Half

Cons
Ackland
No contingency plan
Lance in defence
Carlos in the ruck [whilst he was a pro, I still think he should have stayed down back - let him master one position before sticking him elsewhere]
Houli - Not a defensive bone in his body
Losing
Filth supporters in the top of the SS smoking 2 rows in front of me with my 2 year old nephew sitting next to me MCC officials and coppers don't do much to enforce the non smoking rule at the G.

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

DUC, next time they do that, eat a whole bunch of fruit, nuts or whatever, save up a nice juicy baloon of gas in your belly and then take a walk over to those inconsiderate scumbags and let em have it. Around kids is unacceptable.

Pros - playing attacking footy right to the last. We could have easily shut up shop or get run over.

Cons - the hysteria on this website that now seems to greet any performance. True, I don't want a 'clap them off when only losing by 10 goal", but eek!

We played rubbish and were in front. We fought it out and in the end, the difference was what you'd expect between 6th and 11th.

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Can the mods please change the title of this thread? Round 8 is next week.

Haha, sorry. I've changed it, but probably no need to because I'll most likely be sticking Pagan and his game plan in the cons next week again.

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They will know that they've been playing against the famous old dark blues

George, you've summed it up in 3 words. It's the biggest problem. No reliable system except bomb it long to Fev. How can the youngsters learn??

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They will know that they've been playing against the famous old dark blues

I agree George. Has been our biggest problem...there is no system. My question was rhetorical unfortunately...

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"A good composer does not initiate. He steals."

- Igor Stravinsky

Being a lady stops me from doing that ny, but I am open to paying someone to do that for me.

That were your typical stereotype filth supporters - tracksuits, beanies and the smoke - ferals.

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

Pros:
A pretty decent effort against a very well coached/drilled team playing very good footy at the moment.
Key defenders were good: Waite, Saddington and Whitnall. (Although I'd prefer Bower to be getting a shot in that role ahead of Saddington and Whitnall.)
Murphy, Simpson and Scotland in midfield (although there were a couple of really costly turnovers from Scotland early in the last quarter).
Bentick for a half.
Carrazzo (great to see him get a decent run in midfield for the first time in a few weeks).
Fev for a half.
Lappin.
Setanta (beaten but very competitive - one of the few times I've seen one of our ruckmen genuinely competing over the last 3-4 years).
Houlihan's offensive work was outstanding.

Cons:
Got smashed out of the centre square after half time.
Team plan of kicking to our leading 'centre half forwards' in Young and Betts throughout the second half. Not sure why those kicks weren't directed at an option like Kennedy or Fisher.
Houlihan's defensive work was poor (just can't afford to play on goalkickers - should be played midfield/forward).
Umpires over the last 3 weeks (ever since Fev started mouthing off). Particularly frustrated by their seeming love affair with Thomas, Didak and Heath Shaw.