Home from yet another loss. Pagan masterful once more.

PROS

1. Murph - Freak, don't need to elaborate (although his injury may be a con)

(the rest must be taken with a pinch of salt)

2. Houla - 26 touches gives good rebound. His man gets too much freedom and in better weeks his performance would not be a pro (I;ve gotta write something)

3. Simmo - played well until 3 disgraceful kicks in the last. WIll include him though.

4. On target for PP. prob will be about 4-15 and then need to lose 3 50-50 games

5. We can finish above richmond and get pick 1

CONS

1. GAME PLAN PAGAN YOU FOOL - the whole structure is embarrassing. We get the ball at half back and just kick a bomb down the line and the opposition know it. It's painful.

2. Kickouts - we're predictable, we don;t switch and never manufacture a thing, but other teams stream away.

3. Walker - terrible game Will bounce back

3. PLayer development - Carlton is a terrible club for young players to be at - there's no senior suopport and the game plan supports collision football. It's pathetic. Russel Kennedy et al are victims of this

4. Team selection - Kouta got bagels - we need senior support badly but if he's not ready don't play him. Stole a spot from a kid. And Ross young is gap filler - put a good kid in

5. Bower - looked yuk - hope it was a blip

Special mention - the fact that we are so loose on the break allowing the opposition fast movement. We force few turnovers between the arcs

I;m losing patience with Pagan big time

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They will know that they've been playing against the famous old dark blues

Hey, you forgot ackland as part of the cons!! but i understand, he's easy to miss.

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Happy Days Are Here Again!!

Sorry brian - he deserves a mention. Easy to forget cos he's so crap every week I just expect it

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They will know that they've been playing against the famous old dark blues

Lol, i forgive ya!

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Happy Days Are Here Again!!

No positives can come out of a game where your are 4 goals up 30 secs before half-time against a half-rate Collingwood side and lose by 4. Anyone that can find any is fooling themselves by thinking we are making inroads, WE ARE NOT !!!! I am as pissed off tonight as I have ever been about Carlton in the last 5 years. We had an opportunity today and totally [REDACTED] it up through ALL fault of our own

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No1 draft picks mean @#$%&! ALL. Look at Bryce Gibbs !!!!

+ -

1. Cloke/Bryan swap. We've won this. Cloke was more value than Bryan today.
2. Murph - good to see him bounce back after a quiet two weeks.
3. Ditto Carrats
4. Flying the flag. Nice to see them have a dip when Murph got dropped late by the seagull.
5. Saddo - looked reasonable.
6. Carlos - would have learnt. Better in the ruck than Ackland already.
7. Fisher - stepped straight back in. Massive difference.

-'s
1. Ackland. Garbage. Fooled three clubs now.
2. JR - second poor game in a row. 2nd efforts are non-existent.
3. Coaching. Why bring in a bloke like Bower if you aren't going to play him. Or play him out of position. If you don't give these kids any structure or direction they will run around like headless chooks. Today was a perfect example.
4. Kouta. Not fit. Don't play, simple really. His 'big body' really wasn't that much difference.
5. Whitnall. Bad bad day.
6. Walks - had a dirty one. Will bounce back.
7. Betts - poor again. Needs to be kicking 30-45 goals a year. Unlikely to happen.

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The only way for some people to understand is for them to be on the receiving end

Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

Pros:
1. Murphy - we would have been down by 5 goals at qtr time if it wasn't for him.

2. Russell - Did a good closing job on Thomas

3. Houla and Scotland were good

Cons:

1. Acland - worst ruckmen going around. You think the club would have learnt from the O'Reily and Mansfield fiasco

2. No leadership. Russell kicks a goal in the last quarter runs back to Full back line and only Waite congratulated him.

3. Kouta - Moves likes a camel. Why was Anderson or Blackwell dropped for him???

4. Bower - Major concern!! Anyone know what position he is meant to play???

5. Young - Why are we playing him at the expense of a kid?? Not up to it

6. Game plan is shite. Rebounding out of defense without any pressure as per usual. First 20 minutes of the last quarter we had 1 possession in the forward fifty after 7 entries. Maybe ratten the forward coach can explain

7. Too many worries / question marks regarding the young kids we have recruited in the 2005 and 2004 draft except for Murphy.

As opposed to what ???? At least he has a go. Unlike Russell, a bigger squib at Carlton I have not seen., and at No9 in the draft. And to think we kept him instead of letting him go to the smears.

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No1 draft picks mean @#$%&! ALL. Look at Bryce Gibbs !!!!

He has a crack but I don't think he is up to AFL standard. Not fast enough for the game and we are screaming for pace at the moment. Kids like Anderson and Blackwell should be playing ahead of him.

Pros : Murphy & saddington ( Good return )


Cons:


1- Holihan : The biggest Hack of the AFL... what a pathetic player he is....YET again he refused to put his body on the Line, refuses to chase and Does absoloutely nothing......I have never seen in my entire life such a casual and soft player who just cant handle any pressure.....For God's sake take him out of defence.... his Clangers cost us three goals today, not to mention his opponent was the difference at the end....


2- Whitnall at Full back : Stupid move... killed us at the end....that was just terrible coaching....Whitnall should have been forward when he has been in good form kicking few goals.... Pathetic Pagan just pulled his confidence down by playing him at a position he is useless at.....


3- Kouta : what a waste of a return, he ran for 2 minutes and then said take me off , i am not ready to come back yet...What the hell was that? this is a crime, he gave absoloutely nothing, and was just making up the numbers


4- Young : i am sorry mate, but your not up to AFL Level... very nice kick but as often with Carlton, too many average players who will never be champions nor take their game to the next level.... plz get rid of him


5- Auckland : started the game on the bench in the hope he can finish off the game strongly and is couldnt finish it......this guy has fooled few Clubs and Genius Pagan thought he is going to the deal of the Century at the start of the season.... what a hack and a waste of a player


6- Kennedy : NOT good enough.... when Kennedy was drafted, all i was hearing on the news is how this guy splits packs and makes a presence felt....What the hell? he is such a soft player.... if ball doesnt fall in his hands, he wont give a second effort, and today 4 times he couldnt mark it on the wing, turned it over and cost us goals.....Plz send him back to the Bullants... he is not yet ready to play this game......


7- Game plan : Totally useless....

@#$%&! disgraceful... what a mindset. Here's an idea, barrack for Richmond... you can cheer them on towards their 150 point losses and dream of PPs then.

I guess you'll be at the matches towards the end of the season, the 3 "50-50" matches... cheering on the opposition, hoping for the priority.

And you actually go to the matches cheering on the Blues. You may as well not, Carlton doesn't need a supporter like you.

Pro's
Same old crew.....Scotland, Walker, Simpson, Fev...

Cons....The players who wont contest in the proper manner...they are embarrassing the club and the supporters and need to be weeded out.
I dont mind losing if its to a better team but I cant take weak half hearted efforts...other players are laying it on the line but some of their teammates are cheating on them and us.....

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Kennedy couldn't mark it because he had a defender right on him

In the first quarter he took 2 good marks leading up to half forward then got dragged and spent long periods on the bench.

Was Bower tagging Pendlebury

Why did we give Ackland a 3 year contract?

Thought Scotland, Murphy, Carrazzo were very good and Saddinton showed some good signs.

By the way, it's donuts, not bagels you @#$%&! wit - and Ross Young was hard at it and deserved some credit, he not only created a few opportunities but stopped some potential goals as well...

Were you listening to the match on the radio? Sounds like it.

Sparky - understand the way footy is heading these days nad then make ridiculous posts like the above.

WE NEED THE PP THIS YEAR!!! Why the @#$%&! is that so hard to see?

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Walk on, Walk on,
With hope, in your heart,
And you'll never walk alone,
YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE!!!

08/02/1981 - GATE 7...Our brothers will never be forgotten!!!

Sparky... I have to stand up for SVB here... he is SPOT ON... we are not being negative.. we are being REALISTIC... since we won the NAB Cup everyones confidence has beeen inflated to believe that we have the team to play finals footy... by watching today (and most of last week) it has been proven this is incorrect. In the 90's you could 'buy players' in the early days and in the later 90s teams could even get a jimmy hird\grant type situation where you get a steal late in the draft... todays footy is different.. it is so analysed less and less good players are slipping through (of course there will always be an exception).. all SVB is saying here is that we are not at the level many think we are and the only way to move forward is to have a PP and get another A+ player.... If we dont get the PP we will get 1 A+.. but we desperately need more than that! Footy has changed.. you need to maximize your time at the bottom to maximize your time at the top... bring on the PP!

Now for my Pros and Cons:

1. Protection of Murphy - Till now we have not seen our youngsters defended when they are roughed up... today the melee before half time showed they can atleast stand up for one another

2. Setanta in the ruch - Not a great game BUT his education would be huge.. last week I wrote Setanta will be a player but where he lacks is his knowledge of the game and where the ball will come into the defensive 50 from.. Playing in the ruck running with the ball allows him to do this...

3. Murphy\Gibbs - Enough to keep you coming back.. as my point above about A+ stated before we need more players like this who dont need to learn they ooze class from day 1.

4. Fisher - He is very important to our side and may not have had his best game but showed us that he has cemented himself in the side as is important to our structure...

5 - Pagan - Sorry Sparky... but Pagan may be the wrong man.. but right now he is the man to ensure we build a good list via draft pics.. end of the year ship him out and our new coach will be licking his lips!

CONS:

1. Kouta - Not match fit shouldnt have played

2. Kennedy - Kills me... will be a good player but allows his man to get around him and twice I saw him call for the ball and rather than lead away from his man he backed back into him and allowed his man to punch. Dont kill his confidence like we did to Livo please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

3- Cain - Drop him and play eddie betts in the ruck he will be more effective.

4- Eddie - As I said last week simply doesnt do enough.. has played one good qtr this year against the lions and that was it... I really want him to be our davey.. but need him not to drift in and out of games.

5- Bower - I know he didnt get much game time but as someone said before what is his position? I thought he was a running backman but he looked slow at times today and in the midfield he just didnt look like he knew where the ball was meant to go.. give him time and he may be a good player... but I personally dont know what he offered that Anderson didnt (considering I didnt believe that Anderson wasnt that bad WHEN HE WAS ON THE GROUND and Bower by all accounts wasnt really deserved of a game).....

He also set up a goal for Fev in the 2nd qtr and kicked a nice goal in the last. He can be soft under pressure at times but this aspect of his game is improving. Once he gets 50 odd games under his belt he will be a valuable player for us because of his pace and clean disposal which we badly need.

My other positives were the performances of our younger players Murphy, Fisher, Simpson, Bentick and Carazzo. O'Hailpin performed well in the ruck considering his lack of experience.

Cons
- Kouta clearly wasn't 100% and shouldn't have played. Anderson would have learned a lot today.
- Young is serviceable but I'd rather see Blackwell in the side
- Ackland dissapointing again. I hear Aisake played well again for the Bullants......
- I think Kennedy will be a good player but doesn't seem to be utilised properly and some of his leads are getting ignored. Give him some leather poisoning playing for the Bullants.

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There is no footy god

Second game?

I am still wondering where Lance goes after half- time every week

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Cheats never prosper (except in the AFL)

Forget the pros and cons.

Drop Ackland Bower Kennedy( needs time in 2s to get confidence) Russell Young

In Blackwell BenjaminThornton Anderson Hartlett
and pay out Kouta and make him retire so that we can promote Aisake.

Kouta should not of played this year and retired. Lets make the obvious decision and do it for him. There is no sentment in footy and the fact that Blackwell got 40 odd touches in the magoos whilst Kouta had no impact is a disgrace. Its simply not good enough and as loyal supporters we are sick of bad management of our list and holding onto the past. Kouta a media career beckons now.

The rucking was always going to be the problem this year. Cloke has been ok but Ackland as we all know is a joke. We have nothing to lose by playing Aisake other than the positve of a guy being fast tracked. He is 21 and can take the physical pressure. From what I have seen Hampson is not ready. Retire Kouta and elevate O'hAilpin. it will give supporters some optimism at centre bounces and a ruckman who is mobile.
Benjamn is a cut above VFL footy. We need pace and has it in spades . Worth the risk. Could turn out to be a win for us and we are racking up the losses.
Kennedy hasnt had the best introduction to footy this year. I fear he wont turn out like we expect though. Looks uncoordinated and has lost confidence in judging the ball in the air. Whilst Lance is at the club,JFK's role on the ground is hard to define. Needs some time in the magoos to fine form. Surely Hartlett should be given an opportunity.

Bower simply looked out of his depth today. Has no defensive side to his game and shat himself. Needs more time in the magoos. Anderson a better bet at this stage.
Finally Russell has admires including me but needs some time on the ball in the 2s. Maybe that late goal will save him from the axe.


So thats 6 changes.

And while I am at it delist these dudes at the end of the year regardless of contracts( I am sure Dick will help)

Lappin
Whitnall
Saddington( played well today but wont last bad pickup)
Mclaren
Ackland
Teague
Bannister
Houlihan
Wiggins
Kouta
Of course this wont happen whilst Sticks is there helping out his mates. And of course there is Denis who will say that Kouta would be better for the run. However there is one man who may beg to differ. Pratt wont stand for this shit. Pagan will be gone by the end of 07(hopefully earlier) and Icke and Swann know the score. The process for success has started but is a long way from being over.

As Dicky babes has said

IF YOU DONT FIRE WITH ENTHUSIASM YOU WILL BE FIRED WITH ENTHUSIASM
Any Blues supporter who was happy with a 4 goal loss today has got too used to losing. However there are people at the club now that can force obvious changes. That's the difference compared to last year.

INTERESTING TIMES AHEAD IN THE NEAR FUTURE
AGAIN.