I reckon the performance and impact each of these players have on the game will be reflective of which teams win...If Cloke plays the game of his life we could scrape a win, though if Bryan plays like he did on Saturday, DOH!

Also you watch Rocca kick a bag. What irks me about Pagan's Blues is that he always lets hack players on the opposition step up against us. hopefully we can nullify his influence.

Setanta on Rocca will be hearts in mouths trip.....


But lets hope Cloke gets to stick it up the pricks....


Bryan has played his one good game for Collingwood..... hes finished.

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I reckon Waitey'll be on Rocco and do a good job.

I hope they both play well.

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Both play well?

I dont think anyone in a opposition jumper should play well against Carlton Once they leave they are not part of the Pratt regime

He didnt want a 1 year deal, he wanted 2 so he went to the pies, so he left Carlton.

Eitherway, next year l doubt Cloke or Ackland will be our ruckmen. We get smashed in the ruck every week. I thought Bryans would be good at Carlton but never got a go, not sure why, bad attitude maybe

It's time for Alaske

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You know what,.........................i'd actually be tempted to give that one a shot!

Here's why:-

Ackland has been piss-weak. The time has come to punish consistantly weak performances. If Ackland wants to play seniors, he's gonna have to prove it!

Harsh, but needed IMHO. I call it my 'Zero Tolerance' tactic! I'm sick & tired of rewarding crap. It's gotta stop.

Hampson was a top pick up last year, i know a few people were upset at us not picking Jetta, but the Hampster will prove you wrong. But he ain't ready yet.

Ditto Jacobs.

And now, with McLaren out for the season, it'll give us a chance to promote Aisakie and see what he can do.

Aisakie is still developing, but why not reward him for all he has done over the past couple of seasons? It's tough being a rookie.............the put in all the hard work and get paid peanuts for it!

Use Cloke as the #1 ruckman but perhaps, if only for 10min per quater, let Aisakie have a go.

His tap work is immpresive, it's just he makes some silly choices on occasions, but hell Houlihan does that 3 or 4 times a game yet his spot in the side is safe?

I'm actually up for this one............................and to be honest, i'm quite confident that Aisakie is up to the task too. A bit premature, but what else have we got to loose?

Out:- Ackland
In:- Aisakie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Dont think we can bring in Alsake even if we wanted he is a rookie player and we have already elevated two rookies although Jackson got injured.

Do we need another long term injury

Are we allowed to elevate another rookie ??

either way Pagan has already mentioned Alsake will be playing in 12 months time can't see him changing his mind we all know how stuben he is

I heard hes crazy, just what the blues need in the middle

Maybe we should take teague up to the snow and see if he can do a long term injury lol

McLaren, from all reports, is out for the year also (ACL or something) so we can promote another rookie now.

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Thanks for the info looks like Mclaren has played his last game for Carlton.

T-Bird on Cloke, Waitey on Rocca, Carlos up forward!!!

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Sorry I disagree with the last one leave Carlos down back he will learn more and get his hands on the ball more playing in defense. If you put him up forward he will spend half his time on the bench.

As Pagan will say 'He will get whoever plays fullforward" says it everyweek

He played the whole game on the BIG QQQQQ, Brown, Lloyd, so im guessing that they are better then roccas so i'm sure if he plays full forward he will get him

I think Setanta needs to play well this week or be dropped. I have noticed that he is not playing with the same level of intensity or competitiveness in recent weeks. He looks lost and is making simple errors. In other words he has gone backwards the last 3 games. He must beat Rocca this week to give us a chance.

If we can't be competitive against the scum this week, and I mean a game where we win or down to the wire, Pagan should step aside. They have just dropped 3 players from last week and also Clement and Presti are looking doubtful.

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O'hAilpin vs Rocca
Waite vs T.Cloke

These two are givens from our point.

Pagan will never step aside while he is under contract he will only leave when he is fired.

Also don't worry about who Collingwood is dropping from there list worry about there inclusions.

If Wallace couldn't get the arse with the abysmal showing from Richmond on Sunday, I severely doubt Pagan will - regardless of performance - this year.

We may be looking up in the financial department, but I doubt the club would cough up cash to get rid of Pagan. As I've said before, this year needs a solid improvement *which I've only seen small amounts of so far*, if Pagan is to stay. If he does *cue anti-paganite* - I'd expect a large pay reduction, with the bulk of his salary being performance-based.

Heard directly from Mitchell's mouth last year at a pre-Sydney game function that they all felt that Bryan was lazy. On from Pagan pre-season last year that bryan needs to realise that he needs to put in.
But Blue Sombrero and I reckonede last year that he was never given a go or encouraged. Will be pissed if he stars ahainst us.

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carlton v scum?

pies are filth !

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.