Pros:
Waite's game on Riewoldt
Fevola managing 6 goals despite being triple-teamed
Another game has gone into our young kids. They only way they'll get experience is if we give them games.

Cons:
Losing to St. Kilda again... but on the positive side it was merely a battle, not the war.

Interesting to note in the first 6 games with the Pros and cons

One week Bentick / waite / russell / Walker / Whits / carrazo you could insert 10 player in this list and they are all seen to have had bad games not afl standard next week same players are seen as great play them for the year. What this shows is most are capable of playing good games and of being "AFL Standard" i have seen Bentick have a blinder played most of the game then like past night get 8 touches and have played 40% game time..

What bothers me more is when people start to make comments of Murphy / Gibbs ect who are future guns but being forced to play roles well beyong there years.

The constant in all of this is the coach and rather than vent all frustration on the players turn the focus on the coach .... The coaching is poor and has a lot to do with how the players are playing what there roles are how much time the play and at moment that is having a huge negative effect at present. Would a worsfold make a difference to this playing group absolutely.

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CFC TAC Squad everyone over 25 must be traded sounds like Loguns Run

We lost by 7 goals by a second string St Kilda team...

Enough excuses... someone (Pagan) needs to take responsibility.

Our list isn’t that bad, I just don’t understand why our coaching staff, isn’t playing to cater our player’s strengths!

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"Dont count the games, make the games count"

Pros: from a footy perspective the Waite v Riewoldt battle was great to watch.

Cons: most of what everyone else says, but the big difference was skills under pressure. Last night was the same story as last year and year before: kick into forward line, pick out an opposition player, watch ball sail back over head, land in arms of umpteen loose players and easy run to goal.

My other con is that Setanta didn't send Gehrig to the turf after he got bitch-slapped.

Oh, and someone had the chance to send Milne into next week and missed the hit.

Pros

Waite despite having a poor start to the year took on and easily beat an elite footballer in the one on one contests.

Thornton is having his best year of footy

Whitnall showing some semblance of form and leadership despite being trapped in a body that would do little justice to the ameteur leagues

Scotland continuing with his good form

Blackwell. Shows good decision making and can hurt teams with his disposal unlike Carazzo and Bentick.

Cons

Too many passengers particularly senior players.

Carazzo bombing it long and very high to outnumbered forward structure
time after time.

We had just as many opportunities to put them away but poor delivery and decision making stops us from competing on an even footing with strong sides

No protection offered to Murphy. It really irks me that Murphy was not protected from Baker who was sizing him up all day. One of our players should have lined Baker out and make a statement in the first quarter. We should learn how the West Coast boys sacrifice their games by looking out for Judd. They would not let Baker go near him. Shame on our senior players.

Once again we lost it in the middle with three of their play makers in Del Santo, Ball and Harvey setting up their win. We can not make a serious challenge for the final 8 until we midfielders that can match. Unfortunately looking at the Bullants side, we have no midfielders with potential to make the grade. Both Ryan Jackson and Russell will make good old fashioned taggers but that is about it, Bentick and Blackwell will in the future be competing for the one position.

The umpiring this year has been as bad as I can remember. Not blaming the umpires for the loss but they set the standard in the first minute of play when we should have been paid an obvious free.

Setanta needs to start playing in front or side by side as he tends to give away easy frees away for over the shoulder. Still have faith in him.

We stopped running in the last. Not sure if we are down on fitness or the demands placed on us took their toll.

Not enough game time given to Anderson. We know he will make it and we must wear his mistakes because he brings to the team a very strong work ethic and his pace and agility is a scarce commodity.

Kennedy. Seems to have lost the confidence of his team mates. They do not look for him. We either play him down back to gain some form and confidence or give him a spell in the 2nds. Would use him as a third tall backman.

In an interview Ratts mentioned the fact the players were told not to bomb it long to our forward line. Some ne needs to clean our players' ears.

Conundrum

I'll get shouted down for this; but Gibbs took a few short steps last night.

Anyone who watches the tape will pick them up.....confronted by an oncoming Saint .....he (unfortunately) jammed on the brakes allowing them to go in and get the ball.....perhaps his broken finger is still sore?

1) I agree that Blackwell is a better option than Carrots and Bentick because of his disposal, plus he has more upside.

2) Some people are a little harsh on JR IMO. Once he reaches 50 games he will be a quality player. Hopefully Grigg turns out to be a quality player for us.

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On your second point, Not having a go at him. Our kids are getting unfairly targeted by frustrated supporters. Possess quality disposal IMO.Ddon't see him as a natural footballer. Jordan does not seem the type to know to where find the ball or hurt the opposition with it. Has really improved but at pick no 9 cannot see him being a potential match winner for us. I am happy pagan is gicing him decent game time because lack of confidence was hampering his development last year.

Conundrum


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Actually............

i'm sure we all saw it Warbee......and i'm sure we
all didn't like it too much.......!
















BUT.....................he's a kid.........he's a bloody kid................!

i have total faith in him learning from every mistake
he makes...........he's that kind of guy.............!

don't think he wouldn't be made aware of it by those
around him................i'm sure it'll be brought up.......
he'll only work harder to disprove this situation..............!

that i believe...........!


kindest regards tommi

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tommi....I agree with every thing you've said.....I wasn't criticising the kid.....we love these kids; it was just a musing....an observation.

I saw it too.

Agree with both you and Tommi though - all part of the learning. Watch him next time the ball's in dispute.

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And why would his finger stop him from going in for the ball? Not sure exactly what you're trying to say there...sounds a little cryptic to me.

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

I heard Jim Hird last year talking about how apprehensive you can feel going into packs after suffering a very painful broken finger.....Kouta has been saying very much the same thing.....even after all this time and with a very sophisticated finger guard....Carlton haven't been playing him.

And as for going for marks on returning....once again; of course you'd be very wary.....it's not cryptic; it's not rocket science; it's human nature.

Pros

WAITE (BOG)
FEVOLA (goals)
HOULA (smarts)
SCOTLAND (playmaker)
MURPHY (tireless)
WALKER (tireless)
SIMMO (tireless)

Edwards, Hartlett, Bower (they're coming)
Ruckmen (I think we should all realise by now how much we need real ones)
Jacobs, Hampson and Aisake (they are needed)
Kruezer (looking like a possibility)
Experience for the kids

All the silly Stevens knockers have gone into hiding (refer to Stevo thread)

Cons:

Stevens' injury (gee we miss him)
Fisher (missed)
Grigg (would have been good out there)
Umpires (pathetic)
Coaches (why flood our fowardline?) Hopeless!
Bentick (where were you?)
Carrazzo (bombs away)
Betts (hiding)
Ackland (hopeless)
Cloke (impact nil)
Kennedy (go back to the 2's, can't jump)
Setanta (kicked to nowhere like his first game...went backwards...needs coaching and vision)
Anderson on the pine.
Lack of aggressionLack of intensity
Unaccountable
No gameplan
Umpires
My blood pressure
My heart
My emotions
My anger

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Everybody has put some short steps in at some point of their career... well except Archer and Wayne Johnston that is...

I dont think Gibbs is a squib... but sometimes your natural defensive reflexes can take over and there is nothing a kid can do about it.
Id back him more often than not to not put a short step in though... in my opinion he is a very courageous kid...

he will be fine...

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cons...betts

Pro

One more day to prepare for the filth than they have to prepare for us

Con

9 marks in our forward 50 for the entire match.

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THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

I'm convinced...perhaps you'd care to tell us why?

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

After two six day breaks in a row we need it.

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#DonTheStash

Pros:
- Waite showing up all his knockers on this website. Your scape goat from last week just proved you wrong. Who's the scape goat this week?
- Lance hitting form (Synbad - haven't heard from you the past couple of weeks). His fitness seems to be picking up also. Gee that gather and handball to Betts was golden. Shows that smarts and skill can still cut it in AFL.
- Murph and Simmo not taking a backward step despite lots of shit attention. Why wouldnt someone give that rat Baker a thumping. Where's Earl Spalding and Peter Dean when you need them.
- Setanta not giving up. He wasn't great but I have so much faith in him. When the opposition midfield is on top, you have to take it easy on him. Yes he made some mistakes but its all part of the learning process.

Cons:
- Our "extractor" (Bentick) not getting a touch. First up, there is no such thing as an extractor and it shits me that people go on about it. I think the real concept is a ball winner and our true ball winner will hopefully be back next week (Kouta). An "extractor" actually needs to get his hands on the ball and have vision to get it out to our advantage... and needs to average more than 15-16 disposals a game. Just watch Del Santo and Ball if you want to see what an AFL quality ball winner/clearance player looks like.
- Bombing the ball into the forward 50. Carazzo a big culprit, but there were many more along with him.
- Shit coaching, shit game plan.
- Another week of panicking supporters. Did you really think we would be a finals team this year? Especially after Kouta, Stevens and then Fish went down. We just aren't going to beat many teams that have a midfield of seasoned, hardened bodies.

Patience is a very difficult thing when you love your club as much as we all do and as much as you HATE losing (especially to scum like the Aints). But we are never going to be competitive with strong midfield teams without a top notch tap ruckman and without experienced tough onballers.
- Bentick isn't cutting it right now.
- Blackers looked good and should be kept in the team to test him out. His vision and disposal were first rate.
- Little Young looked pretty good too. Excellent handballing early on.
- Ando looks pretty good with his pace and guts
- JR will come on. He has class.
- Scotland is awesome and just continues to carry the team
- Walker is a gun
Let's try to avoid getting too negative. Time and patience is needed.