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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:56 am 
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Agree with the Spalding comparison.....he isnt a highlight reel player like Hawkins and Franklin for example.
I think the easy thing to do is to compare him to these other young forwards and that makes him look not so flash but thats a mistake to do that.
Spalding was a workhorse who created paths and options for others, he didnt have the silky frills....I think Kennedy is similar and is completely different to Franklin etc. Because Kennedy was picked at No 4 there are the expectations he is the next Kernahan, Brown or Tredrae...he isnt and wont be IMHO.

Kernahan and Pearce kicked the goals..Spalding did the Blue Collar Stuff.

Fev, Edwards/Fisher/Hartlett/? kick the goals and Kennedy does the Blue Collar Stuff....thats how I see it working.

Kennedy needs to get a kick, take some marks and get the confidence that he belongs.....Denis didnt mind helping Lance get a kick by running him on the ball and I think DP could do the same for JK and run him as a ruckman with Ackland and Cloke saying changing with Cloke at CHF.
If you want to drop someone to the ressies drop Ackland...

With our game plan of kicking it to Fev only in the forward line I dont see JK ever getting the amount of ball he needs to develop unless DP offers him some other alternate positions.

He kicked 5 goals in a Bullants game last season and showed he is above Ressies football and wont learn much beating up on some lesser player.
Play him in the seniors win lose or draw......

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My thoughts exactly, Elwood.

Kennedy will never be your 5 goal a game centre half forward. He's there to do the bullocking work so guys like Hartlett, Fev, Fisher, Edwards etc can take grabs and kick the goals.

In this years draft I hope the recruiters are looking at a kid who is 194cm forward who is capable of kicking bags of goals. Would compliment Kennedy perfectly.

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Leave him in the seniors.

He already tears it up in the reserves, he averages 3 goals a game there. He is too good a player, he will learn very little playing in the reserves.

Won't be long before he is averaging 2+ goals and directly contributing to just as many. Bit of patience people.

He will be a very dependable CHF, just needs to notch 50 games of experience up as soon as possible.


Excellent post Jars. Couldn't agree more.


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Lets reserve our judgement about whether Kennedy will be a 5 goal forward or goal kicking forward or not until he plays a few more games- my guess is that in total he has played about 20 games,has another pre-season or so and our midfield delivery improves .
My feel is that he will be better than both hamill and Earl.Loved Earls contribution being the battering ram and maclure type chf but I think Kennedy is more skilled.
Not sure why he wont be a good strong mark and we have had a few glimpses of the period.We have seen him able to crash packs but selling him a bit short by suggesting he will do the bash and crash and others will do the marking ie edwards hartlett and fisher.
Needs games into in the seniors and needs the senior guys to honour his leads.ATM drops the easy marks -a confidence thing and takes the more difficult ones.
He is coming on slowly but I think we have yet to see anything like his best which will be very good


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So many supporters miss the small team-orientated things JK does.

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phoenix johnson wrote:
My thoughts exactly, Elwood.

Kennedy will never be your 5 goal a game centre half forward. He's there to do the bullocking work so guys like Hartlett, Fev, Fisher, Edwards etc can take grabs and kick the goals.

In this years draft I hope the recruiters are looking at a kid who is 194cm forward who is capable of kicking bags of goals. Would compliment Kennedy perfectly.


Agree.....we need a strong marking, straight kicking foward to complete our structure. Im hoping Hartlett might get a chance and play closer to goal and let Fev move up the ground.....

We lack that Ryan Okeefe/Adam Hunter type of player who is mobile, can take a mark and has nice skills...maybe Jake Edwards can be that man...

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frank dardew wrote:
Lets reserve our judgement about whether Kennedy will be a 5 goal forward or goal kicking forward or not until he plays a few more games- my guess is that in total he has played about 20 games,has another pre-season or so and our midfield delivery improves .
My feel is that he will be better than both hamill and Earl.Loved Earls contribution being the battering ram and maclure type chf but I think Kennedy is more skilled.
Not sure why he wont be a good strong mark and we have had a few glimpses of the period.We have seen him able to crash packs but selling him a bit short by suggesting he will do the bash and crash and others will do the marking ie edwards hartlett and fisher.
Needs games into in the seniors and needs the senior guys to honour his leads.ATM drops the easy marks -a confidence thing and takes the more difficult ones.
He is coming on slowly but I think we have yet to see anything like his best which will be very good


Have to agree with your post, and that Kennedy is more skillfull than big earl already. He will be a very nice kick for goal mark my words...

I think we are all just a bit anxious and need to settle down a bit.

Have to agree with Elwood also on dropping Ackland first, as he is too soft. Kennedy is a much harder already, and it's only the beggining....

We just have to give him gametime were he is kept busy and Josh will do the rest, I gaurantee it.

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must be left in seniors. I believe that his progress and development will be compromised in the VFL. I really want to expose our young talent to the standard required now. He will grow into a very good CHF in time I actually see him in the tredrea mould. I think he just needs game time and a few years of eating plenty of pasta and pumping weights.


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Don't be silly Hamill was a great player that Carlton didn't rate when they should've rated him higher then Whitnall in my opinion back then but he walked off and a little karma came back to him with all the injuries for ST Kilda. I think Kennedy will be a good player but not the type ofd playing like a John Worsfold/Aaron Hamill type,they hard to get these days.


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Elwood Blues1 wrote:
phoenix johnson wrote:
My thoughts exactly, Elwood.

Kennedy will never be your 5 goal a game centre half forward. He's there to do the bullocking work so guys like Hartlett, Fev, Fisher, Edwards etc can take grabs and kick the goals.

In this years draft I hope the recruiters are looking at a kid who is 194cm forward who is capable of kicking bags of goals. Would compliment Kennedy perfectly.


Agree.....we need a strong marking, straight kicking foward to complete our structure. Im hoping Hartlett might get a chance and play closer to goal and let Fev move up the ground.....

We lack that Ryan Okeefe/Adam Hunter type of player who is mobile, can take a mark and has nice skills...maybe Jake Edwards can be that man...

I reckon Jake's the man for sure.
In the next year or 2 our forward line is gunna be very dangerous with Fev JK Jake & Fish all working together.
Because injuries are so frequent these days we must keep Harts as well I reckon so hopefully they all are signed up for the next few years.
Our first pick in the '07 draft should be an inside mid IMO.

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I can't understand the Kennedy bagging at the moment. The kid showed more signs again last week and too me is only going to get better and better. Leave him where he is at the moment, in the Seniors and let him develop.

I can't wait to see Whitnall, Fevola & Kennedy all fire shortly :idea:


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SurreyBlue wrote:
I can't understand the Kennedy bagging at the moment. The kid showed more signs again last week and too me is only going to get better and better. Leave him where he is at the moment, in the Seniors and let him develop.

I can't wait to see Whitnall, Fevola & Kennedy all fire shortly :idea:


His on the bench,while his sitting there two or three AFL listed player playing VFL are getting better for other clubs from the draft,if he sits on the bench for most of the game why can't he play for the Bullants the next day,he should be allowed at least half a game.


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Time for Josh to have a stint with the Bullants for 2 weeks. He looks lost out there.

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Time for Josh to have a stint with the Bullants for 2 weeks. He looks lost out there.

Only way he keeps gettinglost is running on and off the ground!


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He might actually benefit from perhaps, playing at CHF, in an open forward line with just Betts and Fev as company. For the entire match. All of it. Every minute. the only place our mids look for him is on the bench.

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Wild Blue Yonder wrote:
He might actually benefit from perhaps, playing at CHF, in an open forward line with just Betts and Fev as company. For the entire match. All of it. Every minute. the only place our mids look for him is on the bench.


Exactly! He was recruited as a CHF, they should play him there.

They're persisting with Setanta at FB, why not do the same with JK at CHF?


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slow_mo wrote:
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He might actually benefit from perhaps, playing at CHF, in an open forward line with just Betts and Fev as company. For the entire match. All of it. Every minute. the only place our mids look for him is on the bench.


Exactly! He was recruited as a CHF, they should play him there.

They're persisting with Setanta at FB, why not do the same with JK at CHF?


because the coach has half a brain

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because the coach has half a brain


I think that's being generous thrylos. :lol:


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So many supporters miss the small team-orientated things JK does.


Agree with Budzy...He will be crashing packs very soon...he just needs the ball kicked to him, and actual game time!

Will be a GUN CHF...knowing Pagan he will probably throw him in a back pocket and wreck his game!

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It worries me though that for such a high draft pick, he is not even really looking competitive, let alone dominating, unlike another CHF that played for the opposition last night who came into the team after being drafted and dominated from the get go. I guess he's a freak though. But towelled up last night by waitey! :-D

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