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Ring up 3LO on Saturday and give him a burst. He's their "newspaper" man. Usually one of the most insightful journos going around who doesn't "go for the man".

Maybe the big paper wants him to take on Fatprick :-D


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I was a fan too, but now... :? WTF?


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The article is written by someone who doesn't understand football and doesn't understand Setanta.

"his popularity far exceeds his exploits"

What a cock sucker. Setanta is less than 20 games into his career, and was playing on the best forward in the competition who was getting constant and effective supply from his midfield. Setanta was beaten yes, but he had a good game and did his job. He kept Brown to 3 goals and to several marks out wide where Brown could do little damage. The stats don't tell that story. Setanta also out played Brown on a number of occasions - particularly later in the game.

Yes Setanta was beaten, but let's keep things in perspective here. Any other player would have been beaten by Brown on Saturday night and probably even more comprehensively. Setanta's exploits are above and beyond that of a 15 game player and a guy that's only been playing the game for 4-5 years. Exploits are a relative thing, and right now Setanta's exploits are well above where they should be. That's why he is so popular.

flower you Greg Ass .... oops sorry Greg Bum... ooops did it again, Greg Baum. Clueless idiot.



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Greg Baum is an embittered Collingwood supporter who often writes a load of shite.

He wrote an article about Carlton last year where he mentioned how the fathers of Jake Edwards and Marc Murphy played in an era where Carlton would simply get out the cheque book and poach players from other clubs.

The Carlton team of the late 70s contained zero high-priced recruits from other clubs. We paid big money for Mike Fitzpatrick in 1975, but all clubs had at least one expensive interstate signing back in those days.

Jake Edwards' father Alan moved to Greg Baum's club Collingwood from Richmond, for what in those days was big bucks, in 1979.
Marc Murphy's father John moved from Fitzroy to South Melbourne in 1978 for big bucks.
Of course by far the biggest spender and poacher of the 70s and 80s was North Melbourne, but a journalist of Greg Baum's standing would never be one to let the facts get in the way of a good myth.

Sorry Greg, but no matter how many anti-Carlton articles you write,
the results of the 1938, 1970, 1979 and 1981 grand finals still stand.


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kennyhunter wrote:
He is a Collingwood man.


Maybe he's worried about him coming for Rocca.
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Cant wait for that matchup 8) :twisted:

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And of course Jonno Brown is a complete saint who never lifted a finger in violence toward anyone.

Just wondering also what part of the traditional "bumpity bump" at the start of a game of footy constitutes a free kick 100m off the play?

And finally? Maybe Greg Baum should answer Setanta's question from his very first Carlton training session"

When does the fookin' (floowerin'?) hittin' start??


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Hey guys the article is just try hard poetry. How @#$%&! boring. His extended comments on Setanta are unfair. Its irrelevant that Setanta has far less experience under his belt. The reality is that No other backman in the league would have controlled Brown that night. He had a paddock to play in all night and a mid-field drilling the ball with pin point accuracy. He's a brilliant footy player but he was made to look better by the team around him. How many times was Brown chasing kicks on the wing!

There were numerous contests where Big S was successful at the spoil.

This type of story-telling should be used to wipe arse.


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Greg Baum can go join another embittered and twisted turd in journalist Tom Prior former Chief Football Writer for The Sun.

This twisted Essendon* asthenic - is one of the reasons why Carlton's great side of the late 70s and early 80s (3 premierships in 4 years) is not recognised for what it is - one of the greatest VFL sides in history.

These revisionists think they can destroy Carlton's history with their inaccurate piles of crap masquerading for journalism.

Thats OK Greg Baum - your pathetic excuse for reporting is the result of you being extremely pissed off that Collingwood had the O'hAilpin Brothers stolen from under their very noses.

Your too insignificant to even warrant the 8 characters required for me to add to my list - GOODBYE. :roll:

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Setanta had a shocker.... could not handle Browny....In normal circumanctances, Pagan could have tried different things that could have won us the game, but it appears that he is sticking to getting the kids some lessons and experience regardless of the outcome or the score!!!


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Setanta had a shocker.

WTF... did you watch the game? A shocker is where the Full Forward kicks 6+ goals on you from 50 50 contests. Setanta had 3 goals kicked on him when the supply coming in was extensive and pin point. Brown's stats were great, but many of them were out deep on the flanks and wings. Brown also dished off a few nice onces, but where was Setanta's support to ensure there wasn't 2-3 Brissy players running past each time Brown got near it. In all honestly if Setanta was taken off Brown, you could have added another 3-4 goals to his tally.

Setanta was beaten, but far from disgraced. A shocker is where you are disgraced.


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JohnM wrote:
Greg Baum is normally a good, insightful observer of the game. I was a little surprised at the venom he directed at Setanta. A bit out of character for him. Maybe he's offput by Setanta's pushing and shoving, and thinks that a 20 gamer should show a guy like Brown more respect...?

Anyway as others have said, in a freeflowing game with minimal crowding of the F50, Jono Brown is going to get 15 marks against any backman he comes up against, every time.


Agree - surprisingly out of character snide stuff from a journo I admire...maybe he is English.

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Setanta had a shocker.

WTF... did you watch the game? A shocker is where the Full Forward kicks 6+ goals on you from 50 50 contests. Setanta had 3 goals kicked on him when the supply coming in was extensive and pin point. Brown's stats were great, but many of them were out deep on the flanks and wings. Brown also dished off a few nice onces, but where was Setanta's support to ensure there wasn't 2-3 Brissy players running past each time Brown got near it. In all honestly if Setanta was taken off Brown, you could have added another 3-4 goals to his tally.

Setanta was beaten, but far from disgraced. A shocker is where you are disgraced.


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I like the article. :shock:

For the past few years when we come up to a big game we have a chance to win Robert Walls and co get stuck into the other side we are opposing and they come out and smash us.

I how Setanta has read it and re read it dozens of times and gets really fooking angry and come out on Friday and rips the Piss Train a new arsehole


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MarkNo3 wrote:
I like the article. :shock:

For the past few years when we come up to a big game we have a chance to win Robert Walls and co get stuck into the other side we are opposing and they come out and smash us.

Funny you should mention that... :?

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jimmae wrote:
MarkNo3 wrote:
I like the article. :shock:

For the past few years when we come up to a big game we have a chance to win Robert Walls and co get stuck into the other side we are opposing and they come out and smash us.

Funny you should mention that... :?


I opened my big mouth too soon :oops:


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Lygon Legends wrote:
JohnM wrote:
Greg Baum is normally a good, insightful observer of the game.


Spot on. One of the best, if not the best going around.


I'd have to agree with this.

The thing that annoyed me in the article wasn't the commentary on Setanta, it was this:

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Whitnall was met with Jared Brennan, another who has struggled to grow into an outsized reputation. He has the appearance of a surfie, and perhaps the disposition, too, for there was none of O'hAilpin's faux brutality in his methods.

Instead, he kept one hand on Whitnall's back, lightly but constantly, in the basketball manner. It would not have surprised if Whitnall had taken out an intervention order, forbidding contact. There is a precedent.

Instead, Whitnall led Brennan a dance for a while. At his best, Whitnall can with no apparent effort direct the flow of the game, like a rock in a stream. Brennan, as is his wont, periodically tried to perform conjuring tricks, meantime ignoring simple options. But no rabbits emerged. This was all tonic for the Blues, who have felt Whitnall's suffering this troubled season.


Nicely written couple of paras, but -- wtf?? Why clumsily slip a comment about an 'intervention order' into the article? It didn't work and came across as cheap and forced.

I normally like Baum's articles but -- meh.


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Baum lost me after his piece on the Uruguay WC qualifier in Sydney. He really lost me after this piece of krapola. "Faux brutality"?? Nice one Baumy.

Stick it up em Santy!!

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Deano Supremo wrote:
Baum, like the rest of the non-Carlton football community, will catch on in due time.

If he wants to highlight his complete and utter ignorance in such a public fashion then so be it.

Setanta still had a couple of victories in one-on-one contested ball on Saturday night.

We have 2009's best full back in the league on our hands.


hit.nail.head.

perhaps i am biased, but it is really hard to be dissappointed with Santy at the moment.

at times he is sublime, at times his lack of experience shows, and at other times, when he backs himself he is a joy to watch.

Brown, is arguably the best CHF in the comp, Santy is playing his 15? game.

Let see this @#$%&! nuckle right the same article about Dawson or anyone for that matter.

Brown is an extreme talent, one of the top 5 players in the league when fit and firing, but even then, i thought Santy did well.

Brown "goal assists" are a bit of a joke. They cant possibly be considered a negative against Santy. Everyone of them, was a little chip to a leading player, which should have had their carlton opponent red hot on their asses ready to punch.

Not Santies fault.

But he will make mistakes (like he did in the last quarter) abut more times that not, his mistakes come from his inexperience, and that i can live with.

if he is still making them in3 years, then its a concern, but he can make them now, as long as he learns from them.

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phoenix johnson wrote:
I'd love it if Setanta walked into the Age headquarters, made a bee line for Baum, not say a word, punch his flower lights out and then leave.

That'd be cool.


:lol: yes it would be

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