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I did have that Fevola/Headland doco.....it was shown on the ABC in '97?.....but I've long since taped over it.......(it wasn't that interesting)

Fev was the quickest player over the first 10 metres in the '97 Draft Camp.


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Lygon Legends wrote:
Fev (was) an aweome kick for goal, deadly accurate, and could take a great mark
Not a lot has changed

His figures so far this year (sorry - don't have Mark numbers)

NAB CUP -- S -- G -- P --
25 B Fevola 1. 18. 7 (4 games)

H&A -- G -- P -- (to Round 3)
25 B Fevola 11. 7

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Fev was the quickest player over the first 10 metres in the '97 Draft Camp.
And he proved to be the quickest over 100m last year! Some things change, some things stay the same

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p(12)terg wrote:
Lygon Legends wrote:
Fev (was) an aweome kick for goal, deadly accurate, and could take a great mark
Not a lot has changed

His figures so far this year (sorry - don't have Mark numbers)

NAB CUP -- S -- G -- P --
25 B Fevola 1. 18. 7 (4 games)

H&A -- G -- P -- (to Round 3)
25 B Fevola 11. 7

Warby wrote:
Fev was the quickest player over the first 10 metres in the '97 Draft Camp.
And he proved to be the quickest over 100m last year! Some things change, some things stay the same


Until he smashed home 8 big ones, his accuracy wasn't looking so flash. I've seen his five worst kicks ever in the last three weeks... Whatever he changed, I hope he remembers if he gets a bit wobbly later on. I'll say one thing though, he only shanked one of those. The others looked like he was trying to get a draw or fade on them.

... and its common knowledge that Fev burgled the sprint. The handicapper has been sacked (he was another one to underestimate the Blues and get found out!)

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I can pass on a quote from Fev. I've kept from 2004 on his thoughts of his first 3 Seasons at Carlton.



"I was in LA-LA Land.....I didn't train properly"

"I didn't really care about Footy too much....I did....and I didn't....I don't know why"

"I pretty much gave nothing....I was fat and didn't care"

'I'd play good one week, and didn't care the next"


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Just what was Parkin's draft policy, I'm genuinely interested because apart from an odd liking for non-descript utilities I can't see a pattern. It must be more than that, surely?

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Parkins abilities as a recruiter were shown to be limited when he wanted us to take Nathan Brown at the expense of Andrew Walker....[/quote]
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Parkins abilities as a recruiter were shown to be limited when he wanted us to take Nathan Brown at the expense of Andrew Walker....
dont forget that it was Parkin who sent Greg Williams twice packing.


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I remember Fev saying he deserved to be sacked, but obviously didn't want to and was happy the coach kept him.

Now, we owe so much to him and he expects nothing in return, it would seem - except success. He is crudely honest at times, perhaps not entirely adroit at his choice of words, nor his choice of actions but his heart is in the right place, and I can't help but like his cavalier attitude to life.

I have been and probably still am a critic of DP, although I would be happy to be shown I am absolutely wrong. However DP is responsible for Fev's turnaround. He obviously has a rapport with him that David P hadn't nor WB.

It's one of those fortunate things but Fev is DP's Carey. He builds his game around him and they have this poetic partnership which has a sense of fate about it.

Go Blues. Go Fev.

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Jarusa wrote:
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There is no denying Fevola has improved under Pagan, but Fev used to chase hard and put attacking pressure on his opponents before Denis arrived.


:shock:

I don't think I ever saw him chase before Pagan arrived. He was lazy and didn't play for the team.


I don't deny Fev needed to lift and improve his general attitude to being an AFL footballer. But I maintain the "Fev never chased" line is a myth. The point is Pagan wouldn't have kept him if he'd not seen something to work with. And Pagan is not one to get fooled by a bloke that can bag a few lazy goals.


I saw Fev do plenty of team oriented things in his first 41 games under Parkin/Brittain and still remember defending him in the crowd at Princes Park against some of the more feral Carlton supporters. Trouble was all people would remember were the low points and not the high points of his game. Despite his superstardom now there are still sections of the Carlton supporter base who do that.


Yeh, thats true... Fevola has certainly had to earn his stripes for respect from the carlton faithful... Ever since i saw that game against collingwood, millenium match i've been watching him...

I believe it was in his 4th game in round 2 2000, on the back of a 12 goal haul against the pies, he kicked 4.5! and the week before against the lions he booted 3.4 after being a late inclusion...

He only showed some glimpses from there and obviously got very ahead of himself....

But i remember! And was thinking to myself on the night of the millenium, he kinda reminded me of a Jason Dunstall type full forward, earmarked him as a future star... And i always thought that...

And have a look at him now! After his match against the dons, 8 goals in a half of footy!....

The thing is guys, i think the Fev can keep improving from here, and along with a growing team... He seems to keep improving all the time, and with a much improved competitive unit, he will grow along with the team...

I'd love to see him bag 100 in a year! :wink:

I reckon he could certainly do it.... The guy is a flower star! :)

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yeh i guess his alrite :wink:












































nah his a FUKIN SUPERSTAR, THE BEST IN THE GAME!!!! :-D

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Oh, and one other thing I was going to mention

BlueWorld wrote:
Don't forget to thank Denis Pagan for giving him a second chance afer Wayne Brittain sacked him.
...and where is Brittain now?!

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During the final series in 1999 I attended the training sessions and the word around then was that they were going to play Fevola in the Grand Final. The whispers I heard at training was that he was very close.

If Fev had have played, would things have panned out differently?

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Clayman wrote:
During the final series in 1999 I attended the training sessions and the word around then was that they were going to play Fevola in the Grand Final. The whispers I heard at training was that he was very close.

If Fev had have played, would things have panned out differently?


Probably in place of Hamill, but we went to court and got him off :evil:

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..we thank who recruited fev, pure and simple.. ..regardless of who later helped fev to be the player he is now, if he wasn't recruited in the first place, pags and co. wouldn't have had him on the list to work with in the first place.. ..who-ever intially got him to the club gets the kudo's..

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..as for pags.. ..he's obviously had an impact on fev's career.. ..they seem to share a strong connection, definate rapport...and something more perhaps..they do get quite cuddly after a big win..

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I think the main thing I took out of the Draft doco was just how hairy Parko's shoulders were

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he gets pilloried for year 2000 but wasnt a bad pick in the year before the fevola pick up using a pick in the 70s to get houlihan who whilst not a champ has played over 100 games for Carlton and is presently one of our most versatile players


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frank dardew wrote:
he gets pilloried for year 2000 but wasnt a bad pick in the year before the fevola pick up using a pick in the 70s to get houlihan who whilst not a champ has played over 100 games for Carlton and is presently one of our most versatile players


I've never understood the hate for ShaneO regards the 2000 draft. Livo was tipped to go top 5 as the third best tall available after Riewoldt and Kozzi, Wiggo pretty high up as well - apparently he could have gone higher - Sporn was a bit high (don't think Brisbane, Port or the Roos would have gazumped us on him), Campbell, O'Keefe and Beasy were all lateish selections, never really expected to make it, but they all showed glimpses at times.

And the Houlihan pick was bloody great - apprarently he was about the 5th player from the 1999 draft to reach 100 games. Not bad for a pick 73. :-D

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And the Houlihan pick was bloody great - apprarently he was about the 5th player from the 1999 draft to reach 100 games. Not bad for a pick 73. :-D


I heard that the day O'Sullivan (or someone from Carlton) watched (only once) the Murray Bushrangers that Ryan Houlihan was best on ground playing on the ball. And the second best player was a young boy named Adam Mathews who played in the ruck and won nearly every hit out making it appear as if Houlihan had the ball on a piece of string.

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O"Sullivan picked him so O"Sullivan gets the credit.Along with Fisher,Simpson,Thornton,Carrazzo and Bentick..............
Wayne Hughes and Cazz is travelling nicely,but huge credit must go to Shane O"Sullivan for building the foundation for our current team.

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Fevola is very much a free spirit, but one that strangely lacks confidence, despite his quite obvious football abilities.

This lack on confidence is borne out of inner feelings which are especially worried about what others might think of what he does.

Brendon is a personality that is also (quite paradoxically) receptive to the influence of an authority figure - which Denis Pagan clearly is.

Brandan's self doubt is all quite unnecessary and is actually quite destructive..

Fortunately, maturity - guided by the thoughts of Denis - has taught Brendan to no worry so much about others and instead to focus on the task at hand.

Denis Pagan has been pivotal in helping Brendan to change the way he thinks about himself and others.

By looking at and understanding the inner attitudes that drive Brendan, Denis has transformed Fevola as a player.

Brittan did no have this skill and was therefore unable to change Brendan at all - which is why Wayne wanted to sack him.

I thank Pagan for being the most pivotal influence in Brendan's life and time at Carlton.

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