because he doesnt have a contract next year and we get to use it on players who can help us into the future???

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Well Tyrant.

Everyone so far has failed me.

The reason I asked the questions is because I feel they are very important. Do we want this to be a website based on falsehoods or is the truth more important?

The questions I asked are all about the truth. If they can be answered, truthfully, it will make things a lot clearer for members of this community who don't have this "inside information".

For example, how can Camporeale be on $600,000+ this year when players were required to take a pay cut after the salary cap cheating? It's a serious question and one I'd like to know the answer to.

Has Camporeale really been on $600,000+ a year for the last four years? How is this possible?

What really is going on with the backloading of his contract? Has there been any at all?

If this is going to be a community based website which assess player's value to the team based on what they are earning, then it's important those who are doing the assessing actually get things right rather than making things up.

And as I illustrated quite clearly in the Figure$ thread, the figures are made up.

Arguments aren't based on plucking crap out of the air to suit your opinion. If people are going to argue with figures then they should be able to back them up...somehow. Anyhow. I don't care how, as long as it's based in reality.

Not even one media article has been linked to.

Nothing.

I feel cheated. Liars and cheats posting false information which we are just supposed to belive because so and so said so. Bugger that. Smells a lot like John Howard and Peter Beattie to me...or perhaps Sir Joh.

Pathetic.

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So why are you on here OH! Great one, please enlighten us poor stupid buggers? And what exactly do you do best again?

The club gave Campo the deal and we are stuck with it till the contract ends....the previous admin did the deals..nothing we can do lets move on..I'm more interested in how we are going fix the problems when Campo, Whitnall and Koutas tatts winnings come to an end.
Do we chase other greedy ready made players with our new found wealth or go plain and simple with a kindergarten full of kiddies....like Geelong did....Collingwood appear to be following the old ways by chasing players with big dollars...Brown at I million a year etc etc...Dal Santo on mega bucks.....does it win you flags these days?.....I dont think so...

Those are vowels not verbs. Verbs are doing words like complaining, inciting, shitstirring,...

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It's pretty much how most of us feel.

Just on Campo I would like to raise one point.

In 1996. In his second year of football he averaged 17 touches a game and kicked 20 goals for the year.

Not bad for a player in his 2nd season of AFL football.

My question to everyone is what sort of money would he have been on in 1996? And would that amount of money compensate him for the season that he had? The same could be said for his break out seasons of 1999 and 2000.

Could he have been under paid in both those seasons?

BAM!

Surrounded by a mid-field that included, Williams, Ratten, Brown, Kouta, Bradley et al, - I reckon I could have got around 17 touches a game.

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I have uncovered that Camporeale almost defintiely has a backloaded contract. In an article about Jack's book, have to admit I haven't read it.

I have also discovered Simon Black in this old article made the news for signing a $2million four year contract.

Black's contract, also backloaded, was mentioned in the article to be probably $350,000 in the first year, $450,000 in the second year and $600,000 in the final two years.

Interesting that it made the news. To be on at least $500,000 a year over four years, Camporeale must've signed a $2million contract too, yet there is not a single press article I can find. I do remember Carlton holding a press conference when Fevola and Waite signed their contracts though.

$620,000 is a curious figure. Logically Camporeale was on much less a few years ago, probably mid $300,000s or less in 2001.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/ ... 03940.html

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Intresting, as I just read an article about Camporale signing a new deal at the end of 2001 for three years. That would be 2002, 2003 and 2004.

If he was to receive $660,000 in 2003, and his contract was backloaded say 20%, 35%, 45% that would mean he would be paid:

$1,885,700 over three years
ie $377,000 in 2002
$660,000 in 2003
$848,700 in 2004

Then on must take into account that he added an exta year on for 2005.

If 2005 is really $620,000 then he must've only received $228,700 last year right? Or at least something like that. So one year in the 300,000s and one year in the 200,000s and the total contract under $500,000 a year ($471,000).

Based on the figures above, it works out to be a 25% pay cut too.

verbs but thats if that article is correct exactly with what the figure is.. do you think it might be a touch under???

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Ahhh, nothing like a bit of investigative research. Seems somebody was selectivly qouting figures. My understanding has always been that the maligned three had added a year to thier contracts when approached by the club a couple of years ago. This is something they should be applauded for not accussed of disloyalty or greed.

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The point is that Carlton were wrong for back loading and having long term contracts. Those senior players got there percieved market worth at the time of the contact signing. But these fellahs are wrong for making themselves elite above the other footballers that are wearing the navy blu. Why do I say that becuase part of there earnings should be the mentoring of the youth not running of the track as quickly as they can.

Irrespective of what these fellahs were worth 5 years ago there value is not that amount now. We would struggle and indeed have proof to gain reasonable draft picks for either of the big 2.

The standard contract should be 2 year period for all players and make part of their contract conditions contributing to the young boys in the side via mentoring or spending 30 minutes after training having a kick to kick.

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