Surrey, Clem gave his opinion on an article by Tim Lane which was mostly based on opinion. I think if you did a quick straw poll, most people, even the ones who think Brittain was a hack coach still feel he was trated verry shabbily by the Club. I don't think he was a good coach (better than Rohde, however...) but he was knifed in a very un-Carlton way.

Clem didn't agree with most of what Tim wrote. No big surprise there.

YOU were the one who went at Clem in a big way, then when he made a light-hearted comment about it, got all defensive. Your opinions on the move from PP are well-known, and just because someone disagrees with you doesn't make you any better a supporter than them, or vice-versa.

If you can't take it, don't dish it out.

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How rich is that coming from you???

I have contributed 'stuff'... what have you contributed???

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Hes shit scared of me...

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ME! ME!

LOOK AT ME!!!

I'M IMPORTANT!!!



I want to be a member of the Bleeding Hearts Club of Vision!!!

Sign off:

No youre not important.. lucky im here and i look at your posts...

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Oh...so you're why Surrey hides the online status...not me. Damn! You are such a powerful being. Some would say brilliant. Your vision for this site and the "community" is second to none.

I feel so humbled.

I like going into the darkroom to look at the negatives.

Cos youre verbs???

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Agree that brittain was shafted and was unlucky to be in charge when we hit the bottom of the cycle but our best 2 players last night were fev and houlihan both who wouldnt be at Carlton if he continued as coach.

Its easy to take potshots from the moral-high-ground.

Tim Lane = wrong

2001 Brittain was a genius... yes... sure.... what Lane fails to remember is that the coach has a responsibility for the whole list. 2001 is the product of the drafts preceeding it.

He did well with Matty Lappin as our only forward....... why did we only have 1 tall forward again? And NO key defenders the year after????

The whole system at the club was cancerous. Brittain burned, but so did Elliott, and ultimately so did Shane O'Sullivan.... but he was probably the least deserving.

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You're kidding aren't you BW. How much improvement do you see in our young players? Most of them are going backwards. And we do have a team of footsoldiers. What do you call Bowyer, Bannister McGrath, ADL, Johnson, Longmuir etc etc., how much better are they than Hulme or Franchina or Freeborn?

Whatever Brittain's failings he was an honourable guy, who according to various reports was very good with younger players, obviously couldn't get through to Fev. He didn't have the background to call the shots and bring in his own team which is a problem. I can't imagine we could possibly be worse at present, whoever was coaching. We're shocking, no better than in 2002 and the future looks bleak

I don't quite understand what poor old Tim is trying to prove. Coaches and players have been getting sacked in appaling ways since this sport began. Brittain was not the first and won't be the last to get shafted by a footy club.

The club is the position it's in now because Elliott and his cronies refused to accept that the business of football had changed. Instead of using the draft like every other club in the league, Elliott thought he could still recruit players like we did in the 70's and 80's.

We are so far behind the 8 ball because we were the last club to toe the line, and now we are paying the price.

Tim Lane is a lot like me a frustrated OLD Carlton supporter. It has been almost 6 years since we have been in the GF and there is no sign of us being in one soon. Carlton supporters of old don't accept this we follow Carlton because we demand success , we expect success and don't like settling for the rubbish this team is dishing up. I am sure with the talent that is at this club (Yes Talent and there is still plenty of it) Brittain would have got more out of this side and we would not be staring down the barrell of another 5-6 years in the wilderness

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Exactly, and we were then denied the chance to get with the program due to the salary cap rorting which has set us back another two years minimum.

Mate, please, enough with the Brittain is a far better option than Pagan.

If Brittain was still at the club he would have traded Fevola and Houlihan, kept Corey, Beaumont, Murph, Allan, Manton etc and would have kept on recruiting hacks.

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He might've been able to snag us another O'Reilly or Mansfield as well.

How I long for those glory days!

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Its a sad state of afairs when a club like Carlton is structuring it side around players like Fevola and Houlihan . Beaumont -Allan and Murphy would have been quite handy last night.

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Let's have a look at where each player is at the moment...

Allan - playing reserves footy.

Murphy - playing in a shit Bombers side, but is getting a game nevertheless.

Beaumont - playing reserves.

Want to throw up Corey and Manton as well?

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Fevola and Houlihan both have more ability than the three players you've mentioned above. Beauy was a good servant and Allan was good in 1999 but how do we miss them now? Murphy I actually don't mind and rate as a decent player when on song but I can't say I'm crestfallen that he's not at Carlton anymore.

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Every Carlton supporter demands success, we are a club built on success and that's why we support them. However, the cold hard fact is that we are long way from achieving success, but at least we are finally taking the time to build a team using the systems that the AFL has in place.

Quick fix options don't apply in modern times. Teams are built on talented youngsters plus a few clever trades along the way, and now that we are back in the draft, that's the path we are taking.

I believe Pagan is the best coach in the caper when it comes grooming young players. He had sustained success with the Kangaroos because he coached most of them through the under-19's. It is no mistake that we have the youngest list in the competition.