As everyone knows our core group of players have recievced a lot of crititism over the past few weeks. Well last night they made a statement and a pretty big one, unfortunatly the rest of the team did not follow.

The core group worked thier butts off last night, they were in everything and I did not see them once flich when the time came to put themselves on the line. Kouta ran himself into the ground and kicked two magnificant goals. Both Campo and Stevens were carrying injuries that in most circumstances would have had them sitting out, Stevens in particular. The soft tag that is applied to these two was shown up last night for what it is. Rubbish. Campo spent the night being, as per usual battered from pillar to post and was at one stage in the 3rd, spat at by his Geelong oppoent. Steven sacrificed his own game to keep Ling quiet. Whits was a trojan in defence and he had to continually had to cover unmarked players as the ball came in and he still kept Ottens to 3. Not only did the core group work hard but they continually kept trying to rally the rest of the team, both Kouta and Whits were particularly vocal in this regard. Unfortunatly by 3/4 time they were exhausted and you just knew Geelong were about to blow the game wide open.

Now, as a senior player you can lead by showing the way, by being disicplined and by encouring your teammates, it is worthless if the rest do not follow. Last night of the second tier only Teague and to a lesser extent Brett could honestly say they worked all night, the rest consistantly refused to man up (he amount of times Geelong players were allowed to drift umarked into F50 had me tearing my hair out), refused to run straight at the ball and to space on the offensive. Other than the occassional foray they were in the main spectators. The juniors players to an extent can be excused, but not by much. Of this group only Waite worked hard, although Justin and Eddie did have a go. The rest spent most of last night literally gun shy, waiting for someone esle to make the play.

We will not win games until the second tier and juniors play a full game of football and show commitment to the contest each and everytime.

Now there are some who will single out indivivual players, others will bang on about contracts and culture. Some will say what I have wriiten is crap. They are entitled to thier opinion but I am happy to get the tapes out, both the in close and the down the ground shots and point out who should have doing what when.

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We never had a second tier last night.

Our good players played well.

I watched Camporeale in particular last night, and defensively he was very good. 6 tackles much better than last week.

But we have a first tier and then a third tier nothing in between.

I think it is highlighted by the fact that we had 4 players last night that we had drafted from the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the draft, and Geelong had 9.

Sure first round picks are important, but we had 0 players that we had drafted from the 2nd round playing last night.

In a sense those 2nd round draft picks often become the second tier players at a club, we just do not have enough of them.

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I agree with Mark and Jar re: last night. I couldn't fault Camporeale, Stevens or Koutoufides tonight. They tried, the first two in particular, put in fairly well. Ling did nothing damaging really. Camporeale doubled his tackle count for the year.

Whitnall - faced a battle, tried hard but inadequate, not really his fault.

What worries me is the 2nd tier as Mark stated. Players like Scotland.

Oops, that's our entire 2nd tier isn't it? The kids need time and without a 2nd tier we've got a fracture half-way up the column and we're toppling.

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the damage has been done over a period of time BM.
These guys didnt trek back for weeks.. at the end of the day everyone has lost their confidence.
Did you observe the girl tackle Campo tried to put on in the first quarter which led to a goal????
Pagan had the runner out in a jiffy and Campo went harder after that....

Thats just too late!!!

We are already low on confidence its been eroded over the eraly weeks and these blokes didnt help the second tier along in the first 6 weeks..blokes like Sporn have been chopped because they have spent the early part of the season watching their bloke and the free men coming through the midfield who have not been manned up.
His nerves are shot ... and so are everyone elses....

Assuming youre right we dont have a second tier... well we have an ageing star list.. so were gone...!!!
You cant turn the tide around.

Early picks and alot of them..

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Geelong and Richmond are two very good teams that have an abundant of talent. Both squads possess endless depth. We do not have the talent nor the depth.
It is no shame losing to both these teams.

I bet our saviour in the form of Ian Collins, would like to turn back the clock to Black Friday. If it was, I have a strong feeling he would have taken out the all important court injunction on Black Friday in order to secure the services of Pick 1, 2 and 18.

The results on the park we are witnessing now comes down to when crucial decisions are made with the heart and not with the head.

The Carlton Football Club being a multi million dollar organisation, the decision made by Collo solely (on the advise of Ron Evans?) not to take out the court injunction, was always going to have a lasting effect.

This in turn will affect the finances, poor onfield performances keeps the supporters away from turning up at games.

KL, you realise how much an injunction costs?

Did we have money to go for the injunction? No.

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How much money is it going to cost the club to be cellar dwellars for 5 years?

And you can add a million dollar fine to the bill too.

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NOW YOU'RE JUST SOME CLUB THAT I USED TO KNOW.

CC it sounds like you are an authority of the CFC and the treasurer of the CFC. The injunction wouldn't have "cost"

You take an injunction out the club might well be running while insolvent.

It'd be a question of what club remains? There would be no Carlton Football Club.

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CC you are being a drama queen. People at Carlton have money to take out a simple injunction.

*Sigh*

You want to pay for an out-of-business hours judge? Court reporters? Security staff and the other administrative costs required of a court?

Getting an injunction may require that we had to pay for the AFL's lawyers and whatever as part of the bond.

There's a reason why the bail courts aren't open on Sunday but they are on Saturday, it's because it's prohibitively expensive to open a court room.

If you think it's a simple matter of asking for an injunction, and that asking Dick Pratt would be easy, you think it's easy to part with a couple of hundred thousand dollars?

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We are going around in circles.

Well, until people realise that going to court actually costs money then i guess we are then if we keep talking about "what ifs" about Black Friday.

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There were no "what ifs" then.. it was a "must do".

So we would have lost $100.000 upfront taking out an injunction [in turn securing the services of Goddard and Wells], well, my friends, if poor onfield performances continue, supporters will not turn up in numbers on match days.

The damage[it can cause] is vastly more than a measly $100.000 upfront payment. The long term damage it can cause towards the clubs gate receipts, could be catastrophic, in-line with "Fitzroy".

If the injunction application failed then what? Pay that money for nothing.

Can't just get an injunction because we feel like it...that's what Elliott thought, little wonder he was (along with Bond) the biggest user of the injunction in the court system in Australia...

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We would have had Goddard and lost Walker...

The only way we could have kept Wells Goddars Walker and Braddley is if we brought the whole thing down.... if we won the ruling that is.

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A delayed ruling to the inevitable is not exactly "bringing the whole thing down"

I am not a lawyer nor a solicitor, however, a court injunction is a simple technicality the only way a court injunction can be withdrawn is in the supreme courts. An injunction to a tribunal hearing, wouldn't have cost $20.000.

sure, our "core" group lifted but i thought they were very soft in that all important 1st quarter. when the heat was white hot, they were ineffective, invisible, accepted no responsibility and no accountability.

does anyone remember ablett's goal where was sitting in the 50 all alone for ages before being spotted by johnson who then passed to him?

i noticed campo spotted ablett was all alone and started walking towards him. however, rather than man him up he began pointing to someone else to go pick him up. campo turned back and stood watching johnson line up for goal. campo did NOT stand another opponent or anything, he just stood there occupying an area where the ball was NEVER gonna end up. that's great for campo cos you're never gonna be held responsible for being outmarked by ablett just for being stupid enough to go stand next to him. better to relay that responsibility to a team mate!

so johnson passes to ablett, campo turns around and starts screaming at his team mates, and brett johnson gets dragged.

campo took no responsibility for manning the most damaging player on the ground and left a team mate to hang out to dry.

that he, and the others, needed a serve at qtr time AGAIN (ie after last week) to do stuff like: chase; tackle; run etc SAYS IT ALL!!

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And you must pay bond for both parties for the period of the injunction. That's how Ruddock got away with sending Tampa refugees to Nauru, because the bond was about $5 million/day or something in order to keep the navy functioning. The lawyers defending Tampa refugees couldn't put $5 million/day as security.

If the AFL had to delay the draft etc., then how much would that cost? Airfares etc. for interstate draftees etc., television rescheduling etc.

Minefield...

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whatever Campo is on, double it!!!!

He has become an expert in cheating in my opinion .....

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