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Most did pretty well. Everyone put in a bit. Tired a bit in the 2nd half.
I heard some one say that Essendon* has had a lot of match practise.

Murphy is a absolute gun footballer. The way he moves and thinks.

Why cant professional footballers kick for goal It is shocking most weeks
from all teams.

The worst was a quick listen to SEN, and having to put up with the Brererton garbage, about Carlton.
They sound a good radio team. What a pity to spoil it with him.

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Heehee............

Bullee and Clintee.............!

you two fun-neee........!


kindest regards tommi

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3 - Jarrad Waite
2- Fev
1- Simpson

Stevens, Sentanta, Houlihan and Murph also very good.


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Stevo and Carrots in the middle

Simmo and Houla carrying the balll

Waite and Santy in the backline

Fev in the backline

Thought JR looked better

Cloke should have had 2 goals and then would have done very welol.

Fisher except for his kicking.

Tex play a ripper on Hird I thought.

How good was Murph also.

and bloody hell Gibbs may just be as good


Took the words right out of my mouth.

I was blown away with Stevens, Carrazzo, Simpson and Houlihan as ball carriers. Don't worry about little mistakes; they were great!!

We are young, fast with a goof sprinkling of experience.

I'm going to watch the game again at 3pm on FOX before my 3 2 1 votes.

I thought Ch 10's Quartermain should stick to reporting and stop calling games. He is hopeless. Weak voice, weak delivery, and still talks a lot of crap.

Looking forward to the FOX replay this arvo.

Well done Blues!!

I am so excited!!

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And you just can't hide it.................

so put it away please Bondi.......i'm about to break my fast.........!


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Anyone with the name Waite was just born to play in the backline.

He is a scary unit.

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I got one word for you tommi



Raaaammaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hey Dee Boy...................

%$#@ i love it when we beat those DIRTY FILTHY @#$%'S..............!

you only need to look at the quality of supporter
they showed on tv last night............!

WE=a little from column A.......a little from column B........!












THEM=that DIRTY paroxide riddled blonde.....with that ill-fitting....cheap
Dental Hospital denture...........!






did i mention trailer park trash...............?














no i don't think i did..............!















the DIRTY FILTHY PIECE OF TRAILER PARK TRASH...................!


ahhhh..............betta now.........!


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YOOHOOOOO.........RAM AHHHHHHH.......WHERE ARRRRRRRE YOUUUU.....?

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Andrew Walker - was very effective in shutting down Hird, showed some characteristic dash from half back along the wings and delivery by foot on the run was an improvement from last season. Defensive mark in the last quarter was fantastic. Good to see no drop off from last year. Rating: 8/10

Jordan Russell - wow, was one of my stand outs last night in terms of improvement on last year. Played a significant portion of the game in the midfield and at centre bounces. Clearance work was excellent. Ran hard and physically looks great. Has definitely taken a step forward from 2006. R: 8.5/10

Marc Murphy - do I really need to put comments? Delivery (barring one uncharacteristic error in the last quarter which shows even he can do an impression of being human) was first rate. He was probably one of our best tacklers on the night and made sure to wrap up the arms of the opponent. Leadership was exemplified in the first quarter when he showed enormous courage to back into a contest when Fev gave him a hospital pass - got crunched and got straight back up. R - 9/10

Bryce Gibbs - it was the little things from Bryce that were good to see. Didnt get large amounts of game time and I dont mind that. There were a couple of times when his clean and quick hands in close resulted in us clearing it out of defence. Disposal by foot was great. Steady as she goes for Gibbs - showed he wasn't out of place first off at AFL level. Interesting that he was played mostly on a HBF, though probably a safe choice for his first game to let the ball come to him. R 8/10

Josh Kennedy - Missssssssster Kennedy....Kennedy...definitely a dedicated guy and you've gotta remember to breathe after every time he goes to dive for one of those marks that his shoulder/knees are going to be ok. Provided a great target up forward, kicked a goal (two?) and could have potentially set up a few more with his contesting bringing the ball to ground. One thing to notice was that he has great pace off the mark considering his size. R - 8.5/10

Kade Simpson - Its a bit like Forrest Gump with this guy, whenever he gets the ball you just want to yell out RUN SIMMO RUN. Although on occasions he run himself into trouble (and still looks loathe to use his right foot), the run and carry that he provided was outstanding. Was disappointed that he missed that shot on the run in the third quarter as that was one aspect of his game that could have improved since 2006. Similar to Walker, great to see there hasn't been a post 2006 let down. R 8.5/9

Lance Whitnall - well I think first up, the big news for Lance was that he played up forward. Also think his positioning was right - played as a half forward and led up the ground. Nothing spectacular tonight, but provided a good target when he was on and kicked a goal. The noticeable aspect was that when he was on, along with Kennedy and Fevola, it really stretched the Essendon* backline. Good to see us doing that to the opposition for a change. R - 7.5/10

Jason Saddington - Wasn't sighted in the first half as I dont think he even got a run. When he came on in the second half, I thought he was more than handy. Noticeable how well he was moving and fingers crossed that he is over all those niggling injuries and that his knee is now 100%. Played as a half forward and did some nice things - missed a getable shot at goal though. Provided some great pressure in the forward line as well. R 7.5/10

Cain Ackland - Game time was limited but provided a contest at the ball up and that was the main thing. Work around the ground was limited. Rolled his ankle last week in the intra-club, so not to sure if that affected him last night. Would have liked to have seen him drift forward at some stage and see how he fared there. R - 7/10

Matthew Lappin - Had a quiet night but kicked a great goal when it was needed. Ran hard, pressured and was skilful when he got the ball. Was all over the ground - so didnt get an idea of where he will most likely play this year. Wouldn't mind him staying up forward. R - 7.5/10

Brad Fisher - Kicking for goal let him down again, but I think he was taking shots that were outside his range - tends to struggle from around 50m. The positives of Fisher were highlighted in the last quarter when his 'reckless abandon' to the contest resulted in Lappin's goal. Moved well around the ground as well and his link play through the centre will be vital with Waite playing down back. A little rusty, but good signs. R - 7.5/10

Setanta O'Hailpin - Possibly BOG. Held Lloyd extremely quiet, which is even more of an achievement when you consider some of the free flowing movement of the ball that was coming into the Essendon* forward line in the 3rd and 4th quarters. His strength in the one on one marking contests was outstanding and the contested mark against Hird was fantastic. Read the play as well to get back and mark the Stanton attempt at a Supergoal after initially covering the Lloyd lead. R - 9.5/10

Eddie Betts - Kicked the one Supergoal and in the process landed Templestowe $1000. Was lively in the first half and as always his forward pressure was fantastic. Should really work on getting himself to the feet of Kennedy because he could have a field day with the crumbs. R - 7.5/10

Nick Stevens - all positives again from Stevens (apart from giving the free kick away at the first bounce...AWWWW Stevens!). Was fantastic at the centre bounce and combined well with the other midfielders to create clearances. Often he was the provider instead of the receiver which was nice to see. Goal in the last quarter was fantastic - thats what we need to see more of this year. R - 8.5/10

Brendan Fevola - again, the Fev looked great last night. Missed a couple of goals that you'd like to see him kick, but its the first game of the year. Benefitted from the new 'in the back' rule (side note: was good to see our defenders have adjusted to this rule better than Essendon*'s). Contested, pressured and kicked goals - all in a nights work for Fev. R - 8.5/10

Cameron Cloke - another surprise packet for me along with Russell. Considering he's an undersized ruckman, thought he competed extremely well at centre bounces and got us a few clearances. Kicking for goal was obviously below par and missed a sitter - but hopefully that was nerves more than anything. Work around the ground was great and his field kicking was pretty impressive too. Hit Whitnall on the chest on a lead from 60m away in the last quarter. Definitely more positives than negatives for Cam. R 8.5/10

Heath Scotland - Again, showed there was no let down from the 2006 form. Played a similar role to last year and again played with composure and a cool head. Disposal by foot was very good and decision making was generally superb, even when it involved kicking it 40m across his body to unmarked player on the opposite flank (gulp). R - 8/10

Jarrad Waite - Hmm if you'd watched him in the first quarter, you would have wondered why on earth we wanted him to play as a defender. He looked lost, out of place and his overcommitment got him caught out on a couple of occasions. Then it was like a different player came out after quarter time. He read the play brilliantly cutting off numerous Lloyd leads and filling the hole well, as well as keeping Lucas reasonably quiet. Provided a bit of dash, backed himself. Can't afford to give a half-hearted one headed marking effort in the backline like he did in the last quarter. Decision making was a little ordinary at times. One big advantage of him as a defender is that his leap enables him to perfect the spoil without the hands in the back. Overall, one of our best. R - 9/10

Bret Thornton - well Thornton gets the third best forward FINALLY! Really like the prospect of him being freed up a little bit. He was calm and collected as always and disposal by foot was very good. Will be able to use his run and creativity more this year. Didnt have a lot to do defensively on Johns, but thought he had a good game. R 8/10

Ryan Houlihan - hmm do you judge him on the Houla of the first 3.5 quarters or the last half a quarter? Lets talk about that last half a quarter - had a bit of a brain fade and almost proved costly. Gotta learn to have a clear goal before playing on, rather than playing on and realising he has no options. Forgetting that though, for the rest of the game he ran hard and really busted a gut. His disposal by foot was outstanding as usual and provided lots of run, carry and link-up play. More of this and less of the other Houla and he is in for a big season.

Ryan Jackson - Didnt get on the ground in the first half and had limited play in the second half. Showed some signs that he is going to be a good player - quick, runs hard and disposal and decision making are quite good. Not much else can be said. R 7/10

Ross Young - Hmm....hard to judge. Saw some positive signs in that he seems to know how to get the footy and decision making is reasonable. Made one crucial mistake in the last quarter and should never kick the ball on the full under no pressure. Leg speed is a little questionable as well. Work in progress - give him time. R - 7/10

Anthony Koutoufides - Used sparingly as was to be expected. When he did get on the ground, thought he was great. Moved well, tackled extremely well, got clearances and found space around the ground and used the ball well. If we can expect that sort of output from him this year, we will be ecstatic. Bursts through the midfield in the second half of each quarter seems to be the go. R - 8/10

Andrew Carrazzo - Played through the midfield (about time) and showed that he definitely knows how to rack up the possessions. Skills seemed to have improved slightly, decision making is still a little questionable. But his performance was definitely more good than bad R 8/10

Hopefully I haven't forgotten anyone, though I probably have. Hehe preparing myself for criticism.......now :-D


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Simpson was my BOG...played well all game and put the body on the line with some nice marks late in the game.

Houlihan played one of the best games I have seen him play until the last 5 minutes....

Waite...pivotal move for the clubs future and finished on top of Lucas...

Walker....did the job on Hird and took a ripper mark when the heat was on...good footballer is AW..

Cloke...surprised me...good spring, contested well and got a bit of the footy around the ground, missed an easy goal but didnt do much else wrong.

Ackland...didnt do much IMO and wasnt impressed...maybe was still injured so benefit of the doubt has to go to him...

Carazzo...nice game from him...worked hard and gave us some zip....
we looked a tad slow when Davey and Lovett had the turbochargers on and Carazzo helps offset that a bit but I still think genuine leg speed is a major problem for us...

Stevens....ordinary early but lifted when it mattered and kicked a nice goal to help win the game...

Murphy...class act...won the footy well uses it well and puts the body on the line...great to watch and you always know he will win every contest he is in and just gives you confidence..

Gibbs...nice debut...sublime skills with poise and liked what I saw...wont be rated as highly as some of the other new kids from other clubs who debuted with more of a bang but Gibbs is all class and will be a consistent class player when some of those other kids have dropped off...

Russell....best game he has played and he had the better of the dangerous Stanton...

Fisher...brave and wins the ball wellbut his disposal and decison making isnt great...needs to improve on that game.

Scotland...Poor early but got better...not hard enough at the footy early but improved as the game went on..

Walker...nice footballer who beat Hird and is one of our best.

Lance....did ok but wasnt outstanding.

Saddington....wasnt great...

Setanta...good, looked reliable, held some nice marks and his disposal has improved.

Thornton....was good...looked keen and used the ball ok.

Jackson....likely type, moves well and uses the footy ok....will be a senior player at some stage.

Ross Young...looked lost early but seemed nervous....better for the run and will be better next start.

Kouta and Lappin did their bit when required....

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thought stevens was easily our best (and im not his biggest fan). midfield otherwise just ok i thought. waite, setanta both very good, as was houla and walker. forwards weren't great. the new rule interpretation helped significantly. at the same time tho it was pleasing to watch Kennedy and Russel in particular get plenty of game time. cant wait to see Kennedy take a couple of contested grabs. had the passing to him been better, would have managed a couple more shots on goal. the game provided many positives. not least of which is that the foundations have been set and now it will just be a matter of watching the players improve with experience. its nice and reassuring to watch the team knowing that we arent forced to use players that simply arent up to the standard required. it will make dealing with losses a lot easier i think.
anyway,
3 - stevens (easily)
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just another thing, i hate the bombers passionately...but how exciting was Lovett? Davey was also impressive, and monfries banana goal from 45m was incredible. reminded me of Bradley's goal at PP from a similar position on the run. against the eagles i think??that game late in mayb '95 when we beat them by about 10 goals. i think that was the game. but yeah, lovett was great to watch.


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The best players for mine were Houlihan, Simpson, Stevens, Waite, Fevola and Murphy. I was encouraged by Cam Cloke. I thought that he had a real crack. It's a pity he missed those two shots at goal. Also Setanta did a nice job on Lloyd. We will be a good side when Fisher is not in the best 18 though. His disposal was woeful.


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...and another thing.

it made me laugh thinking about when walker bolted through the middle of the ground.

i could just imagine all the coaches seeing him running so fast with the ball and screaming 'balance,balance' (or whatever it was they were saying at training) waiting with great anticipation to see their pre-season efforts of improving his kick on the run come to fruition, the satisfaction would be immense.....and then.... oh dear.....
Walks did one of the worst and most out-of-control ball drops i've seen, and kicked a tumbling ball (possibly from his shin) about 30 metres with no direction.

i imagine there would have been a collective shake of the heads in disbelief.

perhaps it shouldn't really be funny, but it made my bro n i laugh.


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teknodeejay wrote:

Cloke did well but needs to improve kicking.


You can take Cloke out of Collingwood,
But you can't take the Collingwood out of Cloke!!!

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Stevens was great. Really cared about the game tonight. Great match winning goal.



AWWWWWW HAMMER.


"You're f#$ing joking you dirty dog Clint"

sorry mate, just giving you back some of the spray you gave the ump with 8 mins to go in the last :lol:



I think I added "how bout his f#$ing head you f#$ing moron?"

Then I sat down and let out the f-bomb again.(I couldn't help it)

Then saw your msg that you sent to Danielle and let it out 1 more time.

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Stevens was good around the clearances, but he still sh#ts me because he refuses to put his body on the line when he has to. The perfect example was when he had to run back to a ball kicked over his head to his opponent. Instead of doing what murphy and setanta had done previously, which is keeping their eye on the ball and backing into the pack, stevens took the very very very soft option of just watching the player and jumping into him, rather than back into the player and giving a legitimate contest - consequently, stevens gave the free kick away, and then i think the person handballed to lucas to get a supergoal - this was all because stevens refused to put his body on the line - this is not satisfactory for a leader of the club and someone who seems to criticise others a lot for their mistakes. Why would other players put their body on the line when one of the highest paid is able to skirt the issue.

Personally, i dont think u can excuse someone from putting their body on the line.


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...he [Stevens] still sh#ts me because he refuses to put his body on the line when he has to. The perfect example was when he had to run back to a ball kicked over his head to his opponent. Instead of doing what murphy and setanta had done previously, which is keeping their eye on the ball and backing into the pack, stevens took the very very very soft option of just watching the player and jumping into him, rather than back into the player and giving a legitimate contest - consequently, stevens gave the free kick away, and then i think the person handballed to lucas to get a supergoal - this was all because stevens refused to put his body on the line - this is not satisfactory for a leader of the club and someone who seems to criticise others a lot for their mistakes. Why would other players put their body on the line when one of the highest paid is able to skirt the issue.


I didn't see it that way Bozman....and I'm not saying he made the right decision.

I thought he was trying to use clever positioning...ie out smart the bloke who was going to jump all over him...it didn't come off...I was surprised that the free kick was paid against him...but then again he took his eyes off the ball to see where the opponent was. That's what got him...That action of his could have really hurt the Bumber player...very dangerous tactic.

I'm glad Lance has taken that tactic out of his game, but that also means that the rules have taken that type of body positioning out of the game too...because it is so dangerous....players have the responsibility to adjust to the rules.

As for the rule, I don't like it...but I accept it.

IMO, if f the Bumber player got injured from trying to jump all over Stevo, and Stevo didn't look to see where he was...it would have been cheered as a great manouver....and Stevo would have run off with the loose ball.

Fine line. Maybe not enough talk. :?: Maybe his fractured vertabrae (?) is still in the back of his mind. :?:

I saw him put his body in and play hard footy....you've got to give credit where credit is due. He played an outstanding game...and like others made some errors in judgement.

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Highlights that said a lot
Waite – Soccer goalie save on the line!!!!
Walker – 1) Haircut - hadn't seen it before. 2) Held a mark he probably would have spilled in years gone by.
Setanta – THAT mark in front of Hird. Commentators had Hird’s name all over it.
Gibbs – May not have burned the house down but this guy just looks like he belongs.
Murphy – Some of the things he does have me gasping like I haven’t done since Williams retired.
Kennedy - Always goes to the right place & delivers to the right spot (sometimes, even if his teammate is not quite there). He will almost always get 4 shots at goal per game. His mission this year should be to convert 60% or more (75%?) of his opportunities. Plus he brings others into the game.
Russell – showed signs. May get Walker’s jobs from last year.
Cloke – great pass to Whitnall. Good presence around the ground.

Concerns
First, let me acknowledge there is much to be excited about. However...
- Not playing for Essendon*: J Johnson, M Johnson, Campo, McPhee
- Too much reliance on Fev (good to be ABLE to rely on him; not so good to HAVE to rely on him)
- When Bombers turned on the lightning speed through the middle, we looked like bystanders...


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Bozman spot on about Stevens when you said

'Stevens was good around the clearances, but he still sh#ts me because he refuses to put his body on the line when he has to. The perfect example was when he had to run back to a ball kicked over his head to his opponent. Instead of doing what murphy and setanta had done previously'

This is what i have been saying for a long time. Ohailpin crunched some dude who was about to mark on his own inside 50. For me best on were

Waite - 3 votes
Murphy -2 votes
Stevens - 1 vote

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