I was in a similar situation a couple of years ago, except it wasn't a wage reduction but the elimination of some conditions and an increase in an already heavy workload. I went elsewhere for a significant wage increase and a car

Oh an my new worplace are looking at a new even better for me contract, seems I show what I had been accussed of lacking.

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L.M 35-06

All very valid points, mate.

Sure there are a bit of toing and froing with all contract negotiations, but if Campo knocked that back and is expecting more, he won't get it and might find himself at a new club next year.

Lots of ifs and buts with this situation/

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All I'm saying pj is that I don't think it's right for us to call Campo this and that when we don't know all the details and we don't know what it's like to be in a similar situation.

You're right, he might find himself at a new club next year. Clearly if he's on 600k he's not going to get a similar amount again should he re-sign, and nor should he.

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Poor example Blues2005.

In football, you get tend to get worse by age generally after 26-27, hence your value drops - regressive.

In business, you get better by age (as you develop through training, coaching, mentoring, etc) - progressive

Football is an elite sport and the expectations are far greater. A lot of these guys get paid more than CEO's and still complain!!!!

Whether it's by half is another thing, but I will say poor administration for offering such a large sum and long term contract.

In my opinion Campo is lucky to be offered 300K per season on current and last years' form.

Campo 400- 450 000PA for 2 years and that will see out his career

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L.M 35-06

PJ, not sure whether you're at school or working or unemployed, but you're sounding a little unrealistic. I've NEVER, in 20 years of working as both an employee and employer, heard of someone saying "Well, I don't believe I've put enough into my job so I'm going to take a 50% pay cut - no worries".

I realise that sport is a different working environment to the one I work in - in so much as an individual has a short shelf life - and there is a case for individuals to accept LESS money as their skills wane with age. BUT - in this crazy, mixed up, consumer driven western world we live in, it's all about the money - you got a have a car in this land of milk and honey.

Of COURSE it would be terribly romantic of him to accept a 50% pay cut - but it would be utterly unrealistic in this society.

Hope he accepts it though

As an aside, I would love to be a fly on the wall at one of your performance appraisals. Or better yet, your employer!

As has been pointed out I don't think Campo's average pay over his current contract is $600k pa so I don't think it's really a 50% reduction. What would Bradley have been on in his last years? I doubt he would have been on as much as when he was at his peak.

When it eventually does happen, I'll let you know.

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Ha! Good on you for taking it in the spirit it was intended!

Youre becoming quite the accountant arent you Marky Mark???... just remember StKilda and Geelong are under the salary cap and all we had to use up last year was 130k odd for Knobel...(with our list)
Well the good part about all this is one thing.... we will have a shitload of room next year.....

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Have a go at the Contracts thread.

Do not disagree that we will have plenty of room to move next year and I do agree some current players will take a drop, although not as much as some think

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L.M 35-06

Its quite simple really.
He'll get offered what he's worth.
What are the options?
Take it or leave it.

He cant say "no, I want more and I'm not leaving"

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Getting back to the topic of the thread.

The most reliable source in the world, a radio station, reported that Campo is on $620,000. Others on here suggest he is well into the $600,000s.

Someone then went on to say he didn't take a paycut, rather something along the lines that he extended his contract so as to spread his payment. I don't remember ever reading this in the press or hearing it on a radio station. What are the exact details of this? I take it no-one really knows. A link to an article would be greatly appreciated.

So in the spirit of internet forums, I will put my theory forward.

Assuming no backloading of the contract, and the highly reliable source's figure of $620,000, back in 2000 after a sensational year, Camporeale was offered a contract of $930,000 a year over four years!!!

After the salary cap debacle of 2002 he didn't take a paycut but instead agreed to take the remainder of his contract ($1,860,000 over 2003 & 2004) over three years whereby his contract would expire at the end of 2005.

$1,860,000 / 3 = $620,000

Who would've thought it - Campo was on almost $1million a year prior to the salary cap problems!!!

Theory #2

Camporeale is a greedy greedy pig with his head in the trough and refused to take a paycut and refused to apportion his total salary over an extra year at the end of 2002.

At the start 2002 he was offered a four year contract which was to be backloaded to take into account he would be a veteran in the final year of that contract (2005).

The contract was structured as follows:

2002 - 10% = $155,000
2003 - 20% = $310,000
2004 - 30% = $465,000
2005 - 40% = $620,000

Total contract of $1,550,000 over four years = $387,500 per year.

Are you trying to be a comedian????

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I knew you'd prefer the first theory of $930,000 per year.

Well it might as well be.... 930... 620... whats the difference????
Its like saying my name isnt john its johnny...

anyway my bet is the figure will come out at some stage this year when he is re negotiating his contract.... and he is offered about 200k... and he cracks the shits and caro gets onto the story.....
it will be a real rib tickler...

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Which illustrates the intent of this thread. All these figures thrown about left right and centre, but no-one can back them up. They are plucked out of the air (or somewhere else).

Is the contract backloaded?

What happened after the salary cap fine?

From the posts I've made, it's quite obvious people haven't really been thinking about what they've been typing...because it just doesn't add up...which is why Mark started this thread.

At least I've tried to explain how Camporeale could be on $620,000...not once but twice. Which one is right? If neither are, what is the truth? I think it's only fair we know.

and a very excellent job you did too verbs. keep up the good work...

invaluable...

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Bentick
Carazzo
Walker
Betts
Bryan
Raso
McGrath
Bannister
Russell
Hartlett
Deluca
Bowyer

There are 12 blokes just there on under 500k or maybe touching it...

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