....but i didnt make it up. It practically come straight from the physio's mouth.

And a broken rib to boot.

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I dont think the club could be devaluated anymore....

We need to look to the future and in this point in time no one really deserves it the captaincy...so we must try a different approach

"That dumb idea" was used by Sydney during there premiership year, and now look how close there team has bonded and gelled

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Carlton FC is blessed to have as little as half a dozen elite footballers.

One stand out and that is Stevens. He's a very skilled player, and probably our best field kick either foot; and a smart footballer.

When he wanted to leave Port, his preference was to go to the Pies (as they were the team he supported as a kid). He didn't ever say that he didn't want to come to Carlton, but that Collingwood was his preference. He came to Carlton and not with a gun at his head, because he really wanted to come back to melbourne to live close to family and old friends; that's natural!

Yeah, there's times each and every footballer does something that their supporters disapprove of, but you move on, and the player usually rectifies the problem.

As for you Hollywood43, I do love the fact that you're a Carlton supporter, and that shows good taste, but you really do annoy me with your fixed, arrogant and uneducated opinions; there's never a positive spin, just plain old bagging the usual suspects (broken record).

Yeah I know your standard line..." I don't give a shit what anyone thinks of me and what I say, I'm a paid up member and I'll say what I want to say...bla bla bla...". Problem with that is that I have to read that shit every time. Same old, same old, broken record.

It actually really shits me that you've heard the facts regarding Stevens' condition over and over again, but refuse to accept the fact that Stevens was playing under difficult circumstances...played with neck, rib and groin problem, but wanted to take the field and be counted. ie you refuse to move from your arrogant stand and accept the facts. What does that say about you?

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Well how dumb is that! and don't plead to me with "c'mon guys.." crap, because I don't want to associate with the ignorant coz then I might too become one.

Thatis purely and simply ignorance. Have a good look at yourself. You're a Blue Bagger, not Bluebagger; there's a difference.

Stick to the facts H43, and do yourself a favour and drop the stubborness and arrogance, and get on with some reality and promote some opinion with some pragmatic commentary; I'm not the type to want to listen/ read bullshit!...I'm sure there's some positives you know of and can share....yeah even about Stevens.

Sorry I have to be so harsh with you H43, but you've really annoyed me badly this time.

Go Blues!

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Im sorry Bondi Blue.... ill just agree with what everyone says from now on.

Stevens is a gun, stevens should be captain, stevens actually needs a knee reco but played through that last year thats why he didnt have a good season.

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You don't have to read it. There are certain posters whose views (which are said over and over like a broken record) aren't worth reading!

Stevens probably gets it by default.

I don't doubt there will be hundreds of posters jump on here and say 'We told you so' the first time Nicky has a 25 quality possession game this season. I hope it happens on a frequent basis.

Let's get one thing clear though - he did nothing on field over the past season to warrant the captaincy. If he gets it, it is, as I said, by default.

Let's not kid ourselves that Nick worked his arse off when under the pump last year. He disappointed some of us a LOT more than Fev or Lance did - not because he was carrying injuries which I'm sure his was, but because of the way he went about it as a leader and captaincy hopeful for our club on the field. For specifics there are plenty in the #24 Stevens thread.

Great off the field and at training, by all reports, which is fab. The kids really respect him which is worth a lot.

But the rose coloured glasses some have applied to his last season are overlooking some moments that, to me at least, were more disappointing that Fev putty Paddy O'Flaherty in a headlock. Or Lance forgetting to wear a watch.

bluehammer wrote



That's a very good point you make...and I agree.

Blueworld wrote



That's true, I don't have to read it, but I do, out of interest and courtesy.

It's not Hollywood43 himself that I'm annoyed with, it's the atttitude he has towards a Carlton player and the fact that he can't accept that Stevens was playing under an injury cloud, even after the details of his injuries were public at the end of the season... he still maintains them to be excuses and plays them down. That's not reality, that's just downright not accepting the facts.

Hollywood43 wrote



H43 you don't have to agree with what everyone says, and your opinion is your opinion. I am just pointing out your innacuracy, and helping to alleviate the frustrations you have for this player.

Stevens is a gun footballer. He does have a good track record. he has performed better than nearly all players on the list over the last 3 years combined.

I don't care if Stevens is captain or not. What will be, will be. I'm glad there are players putting there hand up for the job, I just wish there was an obvious choice, but there's not.

Over a year ago, before winning his B&F, I thought Whitnall was the heir apparent, and still believe he is one of the best candidates at the club for the captaincy.

Kouta's had his day.
Murphy is still too young.
Stevens had an average year in 06.
Lance has been hampered by an injury complaint (and minor off field issue).

Go Blues!

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AAAAAWWWWWWW STEVENS.....

how dare u speak....

i too recall that last game at optus oval...stevens bled navy blue that day. what about when the siren sounded to end the match....his reaction to that was just fantastic. echoed what every blue around the world was feeling at that time.

H43 has obviously never tried to play elite level sport with a pretty crippling injury.

stevens is my choice.

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In that case most will go for someone else.

there really isnt any need for that kind of attitude BH.

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Carlton 2012: Lets remind them why they once feared the Dark.

I dont Stevens is captaincy material. Give it to Murph. If Whitnall gets it after the last week its a joke.

good grief! we are falling apart at the seams...

i thought i had logged onto saintsastional by accident....

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I've been on the Stevens bandwagon since Fevola attacked an irish barman and Whitnall turned up to training after Chrismas fat. Stevens may not have started out as a Blue but he represents a professionalism that all the young players at the club should aspire too.

I've got 683 reasons that would suggest otherwise.

I'll always remember him squibbing a marking contest up in brisbane in the dying minutes of the game and the many times his opponents have dominated not just for half a quarter, but for most of a game without any attention whatsoever.

And that is fine, we can always afford one or two players of that ilk in the side as long as their skills are good. He does hurt sides going the other way as well (although not so much last year). Expecting a big improvement in Stevens this year, looks much fitter, this alone should provide the base for a big year.

Stevens has the skill, and in my mind is the perfect 3rd or 4th best midfielder in a top 4 side. A reciever/link type ideally, he has not been played in that role instead being relied upon as No. 1 or 2 midfielder and having to do everything which he is not suited for.

I hope he hangs around long enough so our true gun midfileders develop enough to fulfill the role that he is most suited to. With him in or team he will be the icing on the cake in 3 or 4 years.

Good midfielder and if they must give him the captaincy, please just for 1 or 2 years before the true heir apparant, Marc Murphy leads the charge.

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I know it's been said before, but...

AWWWW, STEVENS!

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