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I don't follow cricket in detail...which one is Michael Clarke?
I watch bits and pieces but can't remember seeing him.

Is he in the Australian team? or a state squad?

Anyway - that photo of bingle is funny. what is the deal with women and fake tans... i think her impersonation of an orange carrot has gone too far.

Simply ridiculous...tans...what a laugh.


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There was an article on this on the front of this afternoons mX. Basically, the gist of the article was that Alex needed to start keeping her mouth quiet. Quoted a couple of different psychologists who said she was probably at blame for the relationship not working as well and that Fev wouldn't have wandered if she was making him happy. Saying she needed to look at her flaws rather than blaming it on Lara.


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generally after a woman has a baby she's very busy taking care of it. Its common for husbands to get jealous that their wife/GF/partner is putting all her energy in to the child rather than satisfying themselves. While it could be true Alex wasn't spending all her time doting over Fev, their baby probably needed more attention than poor little Fev. Hands down i bet all the psychologists were men.


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There was an article on this on the front of this afternoons mX. Basically, the gist of the article was that Alex needed to start keeping her mouth quiet. Quoted a couple of different psychologists who said she was probably at blame for the relationship not working as well and that Fev wouldn't have wandered if she was making him happy. Saying she needed to look at her flaws rather than blaming it on Lara.


Journalism at its finest , wasn't written by a man was it - :lol:

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I don't follow cricket in detail...which one is Michael Clarke?
I watch bits and pieces but can't remember seeing him.

Is he in the Australian team? or a state squad?

Anyway - that photo of bingle is funny. what is the deal with women and fake tans... i think her impersonation of an orange carrot has gone too far.

Simply ridiculous...tans...what a laugh.


Yeah i dont get why women get the fake orange tan either - it looks ridiculous.

Anyways Michael Clarke is in the Australian Team - little weedy thing with bleached blonde hair



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Mishgee wrote:
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Men :roll:


I wonder what Mrs Fevola expects Bingle to do? Lock herself away from men for a year as "punishment"?

This may or may not have happened: Bingle was feeling pretty down in the dumps about breaking up the Fevola marriage. Clarke had gone on a few dates with her back in September and they have kept in contact. He rang her up to see if she was okay and she told him she was depressed by the whole situation. He invited her along to the post Ashes party to take her mind off things. After quite a few beers, and some none too subtle hints from the other Aussie cricketers, he put the moves on her. In her fragile emotional state, it was an easy task for Clarke to lure her back to his hotel room.

:wink:

A single, 19 year old girl, who can get pretty much any man she wants is going to break quite a few hearts in her time.

Now, I'm going to the tattoo shop to get Carpe Diem tattooed on my inner forearm.


19 or not though, you should have enough of a conscience to stop you from potentially ruining a marriage - and that goes for Fev too...

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If you don't know that then you're lucky.


Y'know mandy, you are absolutely right - but that kinda works against Alex... money shouldn't be in the forefront of her thoughts. You don't think "Oh, my bastard husband, my ruined marriage... let's see how much Women's Day offers me...!?"... The fact that money can't equate to a broken heart makes me wonder why Alex wanted the cash in the first place... and to further that, you are *at least in the media's eyes* the victim already, why do you want your family drama played out in the pages of a dodgy cash-laden magazine?? Next we'll hear Bec and Lleyton's thoughts on the whole schmozzle...!

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Quoted a couple of different psychologists who said she was probably at blame for the relationship not working as well and that...


Psychologists are full of shit. Particularly those spurt their opinions to newspapers... Period.

Either way, being a bloke aside - Clarke is a bit of a spunk, she should have stayed with him instead of doing the whole homewrecker thing... *and yes, 2 to tango and all that crap...*

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Journalism at its finest , wasn't written by a man was it - :lol:

I was hinting to that but I didn't want to seem like a sexist


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SparkyBlue wrote:
verbs wrote:
Mishgee wrote:
Deano Supremo wrote:
Women :roll:


Men :roll:


I wonder what Mrs Fevola expects Bingle to do? Lock herself away from men for a year as "punishment"?

This may or may not have happened: Bingle was feeling pretty down in the dumps about breaking up the Fevola marriage. Clarke had gone on a few dates with her back in September and they have kept in contact. He rang her up to see if she was okay and she told him she was depressed by the whole situation. He invited her along to the post Ashes party to take her mind off things. After quite a few beers, and some none too subtle hints from the other Aussie cricketers, he put the moves on her. In her fragile emotional state, it was an easy task for Clarke to lure her back to his hotel room.

:wink:

A single, 19 year old girl, who can get pretty much any man she wants is going to break quite a few hearts in her time.

Now, I'm going to the tattoo shop to get Carpe Diem tattooed on my inner forearm.


19 or not though, you should have enough of a conscience to stop you from potentially ruining a marriage - and that goes for Fev too...

mandy wrote:
There's no amount of money in the world that could ever make up for the feeling of being lied to and cheated on. No amount.


If you don't know that then you're lucky.


Y'know mandy, you are absolutely right - but that kinda works against Alex... money shouldn't be in the forefront of her thoughts. You don't think "Oh, my bastard husband, my ruined marriage... let's see how much Women's Day offers me...!?"... The fact that money can't equate to a broken heart makes me wonder why Alex wanted the cash in the first place... and to further that, you are *at least in the media's eyes* the victim already, why do you want your family drama played out in the pages of a dodgy cash-laden magazine?? Next we'll hear Bec and Lleyton's thoughts on the whole schmozzle...!

timetodeliver2004 wrote:
Quoted a couple of different psychologists who said she was probably at blame for the relationship not working as well and that...


Psychologists are full of shit. Particularly those spurt their opinions to newspapers... Period.

Either way, being a bloke aside - Clarke is a bit of a spunk, she should have stayed with him instead of doing the whole homewrecker thing... *and yes, 2 to tango and all that crap...*

:)


So what is your hierarchy of blame?

From most at fault to least at fault:
Alex
Lara
Brendan

Surely least at fault is Alex? No?

Then Lara, though like Alex she wasn't actually cheating on anyone. No?

And most at fault is Brendan. No?

I cannot believe it when I hear people say to someone "It's your fault they cheated on you! You didn't love them enough!"

FFS, if someone isn't loving you enough, tell them, dump them, and then go and do whatever you want. You're not going to make them love you more by cheating on them.


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verbs wrote:
SparkyBlue wrote:
verbs wrote:
Mishgee wrote:
Deano Supremo wrote:
Women :roll:


Men :roll:


I wonder what Mrs Fevola expects Bingle to do? Lock herself away from men for a year as "punishment"?

This may or may not have happened: Bingle was feeling pretty down in the dumps about breaking up the Fevola marriage. Clarke had gone on a few dates with her back in September and they have kept in contact. He rang her up to see if she was okay and she told him she was depressed by the whole situation. He invited her along to the post Ashes party to take her mind off things. After quite a few beers, and some none too subtle hints from the other Aussie cricketers, he put the moves on her. In her fragile emotional state, it was an easy task for Clarke to lure her back to his hotel room.

:wink:

A single, 19 year old girl, who can get pretty much any man she wants is going to break quite a few hearts in her time.

Now, I'm going to the tattoo shop to get Carpe Diem tattooed on my inner forearm.


19 or not though, you should have enough of a conscience to stop you from potentially ruining a marriage - and that goes for Fev too...

mandy wrote:
There's no amount of money in the world that could ever make up for the feeling of being lied to and cheated on. No amount.


If you don't know that then you're lucky.


Y'know mandy, you are absolutely right - but that kinda works against Alex... money shouldn't be in the forefront of her thoughts. You don't think "Oh, my bastard husband, my ruined marriage... let's see how much Women's Day offers me...!?"... The fact that money can't equate to a broken heart makes me wonder why Alex wanted the cash in the first place... and to further that, you are *at least in the media's eyes* the victim already, why do you want your family drama played out in the pages of a dodgy cash-laden magazine?? Next we'll hear Bec and Lleyton's thoughts on the whole schmozzle...!

timetodeliver2004 wrote:
Quoted a couple of different psychologists who said she was probably at blame for the relationship not working as well and that...


Psychologists are full of shit. Particularly those spurt their opinions to newspapers... Period.

Either way, being a bloke aside - Clarke is a bit of a spunk, she should have stayed with him instead of doing the whole homewrecker thing... *and yes, 2 to tango and all that crap...*

:)


So what is your hierarchy of blame?

From most at fault to least at fault:
Alex
Lara
Brendan

Surely least at fault is Alex? No?

Then Lara, though like Alex she wasn't actually cheating on anyone. No?

And most at fault is Brendan. No?

I cannot believe it when I hear people say to someone "It's your fault they cheated on you! You didn't love them enough!"

FFS, if someone isn't loving you enough, tell them, dump them, and then go and do whatever you want. You're not going to make them love you more by cheating on them.


Who said that there had to be a heirachy of blame, let alone me outlining one?!

I'm not faulting Alex one bit, just merely questioning why someone would feel the need to put their personal life on display *in regards to something unsavoury* for the sake of money... wouldn't you forgo that so you could deal with it in private?! I personally wouldn't - and that is why I'm questioning it...!

The reasons behind cheating are infinitesimal - and the blame could hypothetically lie with anyone... but I - like you - believe that a break up beforehand can spare a lot of anguish... but it doesn't always work that way...


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Nah, you were apportioning some blame to Bingle but I was too lazy to cut out all the rest when quoting. Boring! But yeah, do you place her second? Surely not more to blame than Brendan, and less to blame than Alex?

In fact, she might not be to blame at all. Without knowing any of the real facts, it's a bit much to be hanging the young girl out to dry. Who knows what lines Fev was feeding her?


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Who is Michael Clarke....................another flower new south welshman!!


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Nah, you were apportioning some blame to Bingle but I was too lazy to cut out all the rest when quoting. Boring! But yeah, do you place her second? Surely not more to blame than Brendan, and less to blame than Alex?

In fact, she might not be to blame at all. Without knowing any of the real facts, it's a bit much to be hanging the young girl out to dry. Who knows what lines Fev was feeding her?


Like i said verbs, I don't rank anybody in terms of blame - mainly because I don't know the whole story and there are obviously a lot of factors that we don't know about...

...interesting though, I haven't thought about what Fev might have been feeding her - and how that could have influenced her... all I was saying in terms of Bingle was that, even at 19, she should know better than to hook up with a married man (and the same goes for Fev, except, y'know - not with a married man... but yeah)... and this of course changes if she was unaware/misinformed as to the current state of Alex and Fev's relationship...


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Who is Michael Clarke....................another flower new south welshman!!


Well he sure as hell ain't Victorian - 'cos he'd be struggling to play test cricket then!! :)


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Journalism at its finest , wasn't written by a man was it - :lol:

I was hinting to that but I didn't want to seem like a sexist


Im a guy i can get away with it :lol:

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Mishgee wrote:
generally after a woman has a baby she's very busy taking care of it. Its common for husbands to get jealous that their wife/GF/partner is putting all her energy in to the child rather than satisfying themselves. While it could be true Alex wasn't spending all her time doting over Fev, their baby probably needed more attention than poor little Fev. Hands down i bet all the psychologists were men.


It has got nothing to do with getting jealous. It is more to do with when the mother is prepared to get back on the bike again (i.e. Fev rode Bingles bike instead). Trust me. It is a huge adjustment for a woman physically and mentally pre/post natal.
For men well they just want things to get back to normal (in the sack) and some woman I would imagine take more time than others to get their sexuality back.


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Lara is becoming Australia's version of Paris Hilton.

She breaks up marriages, all guys want to get into her pants and she could get any guy she wants. Is she doing this for her own career advancement and Fevola/Clarke are just the bait.

All Lara needs now is her own video collection and she will be huge.

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Mishgee wrote:
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Journalism at its finest , wasn't written by a man was it - :lol:

I was hinting to that but I didn't want to seem like a sexist


The psychologist quoted was a woman.


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woof wrote:
Mishgee wrote:
generally after a woman has a baby she's very busy taking care of it. Its common for husbands to get jealous that their wife/GF/partner is putting all her energy in to the child rather than satisfying themselves. While it could be true Alex wasn't spending all her time doting over Fev, their baby probably needed more attention than poor little Fev. Hands down i bet all the psychologists were men.


It has got nothing to do with getting jealous. It is more to do with when the mother is prepared to get back on the bike again (i.e. Fev rode Bingles bike instead). Trust me. It is a huge adjustment for a woman physically and mentally pre/post natal.
For men well they just want things to get back to normal (in the sack) and some woman I would imagine take more time than others to get their sexuality back.


Hmmm, well Alex seemed to bounce right back after birth. We all saw how she looked at the Brownlow so I'm sure now she is back to normal. If Fev left her because she wouldn't get back in bed that's pretty shallow.


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Mordan wrote:
Mishgee wrote:
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Journalism at its finest , wasn't written by a man was it - :lol:

I was hinting to that but I didn't want to seem like a sexist


The psychologist quoted was a woman.

Damn, well then she's probably a woman whom never had kids before, or whose best friend never gave birth or is an only child.


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