boring people are the people shouting boring

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Good post Andain.

A responsible and united board is what this club needs. Until we start having success on the field times will be difficult.

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There is no footy god

just run his plan of how he's going to have us achieve this greatness past me again.

Leaders lead.

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This might sound extreme in the context of alleged sexual assault, drunken violence and a drug trafficking charge...

Was told by a Board member's [aligned with GS] kid that in early January, there will be an announcement regarding a large sum of money.

Whether this is sponsorship or a donation, they wouldn't say.

They have given me some insight into what is happening at the club [apart from whether a business plan exists!] of late that have occurred, so I have no reason not to believe them.

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“It is a state of mind, a system of belief, a way of seeing the world, a deep faith that, because you are Carlton, you belong to something great.” - Mike Fitzpatrick articulating what Out of the Blue means.

I havent been anywhere near the club since the end of our season.. and a p[lan is obvious.. if its not obvious it isnt a real plan.... is it??

Also a plan means that youre going forward not backwards...
Thats what a plan is... its a blueprint to success....or a way forward to success.

No obvious plan means there is nothing workable.... if it was workable.. you would see progress.

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Thanks Mister Charisma....

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You're welcome. You really are such a nice person. Wish I knew you, can imagine you'd be soooo much fun to be around.

Oh i am..... im not a lonely guy.....

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I can imagine. Your cheery personality must bring happiness to so many people.

yes verbs...youre right!!.. i should have a personality more like yours.....

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Mine is Type B.

enough personal stuff people.

Well all I can say is I'm looking forward to all being revealed - being a frequent reader and less frequent poster, I'm amused by the army of experts on here telling us how it is going to be, then things not realy coming to fruition; of mercilessly bagging the status quo but not articulating sound alternatives; of always spouting the optimistic line yet always taking a grass is always greener attitude...

I hope change does take place in March as the Club does need some dynamic input to reinvigorate the place and to restore confidence - both from Carlton supporters and the football community at large. Whatever occurs, we need to be united going forward and the divisiveness must cease. What we need to be careful of when inviting the change everyone is looking for is not making change for change's sake - ie when voting on the new board think of the same things that swayed you when Jack was overthrown as everyone can appear to have great business credentials and networks......

This is the Cabinet Room - once we walk out, we are as one and we only sing one song:


Da Da Da Da Dah.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

Nice Agro nice!

Excellent post. Agree with all of that.

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IMO, Sal, your overall approach is correct but the detail is where it all gets messy: on board must be a range of professional expertise - general business admin, marketing, finance, football, communication, networking.
then there's the intangibles: leadership, vision, charisma.
I think there are many combinations of the top bunch of attributes - most of which are covered on the current board & will be covered, I'm sure, on any challenging ticket.
But it's the intangibles that carry the team, supporters & even sponsors.
You can achieve what you need to achieve with the top batch, given time & general success - but , without success, you are also competing against the patience of the masses which is tough to do when the team is losing.
The difference, then, for us is the intangibles. This is what Eddie has in spades & the Bulldog Smorgan too. And, to an extent at Geelong. Fremantle, which is bordeline on intangibles, has struggled but achieved some success just in time to pull them through.
I think a lot of what GS has done is not so bad. HOW he did it is atrocious - it would have been silly to take Zantuck or Gardiner. But, this approach should have been clear to everyone including the coach well in advance & not announced in reaction.
Ironically, GS is suffering the same fate as Pagan - he may have an excellent record in business but is unable to carry the troops with him at Carlton.

That's where the money Vs plan debate comes in - $$ buys time for whoever is in power. but without a plan, we will be back again at the same point in 2yrs time.
money without a plan is kind of like our past recruiting strategy - just kicks the can down the road.
a plan without money is the bulldogs, geelong, richmond, hawthorn way... you can get there but it takes time & you need to set expectations appropriately.
the collingwood model = plan + money + intangibles. Unfortunately for them, they still have the colliwobbles.

So, bottom line:
We need a united board with all the business components mentioned above PLUS the intangibles. If we see a plan, all the better - & I think all tickets will showcase their plan before the AGM. These are the elements we should all be measuring the various tickets on.

(For what it's worth, I think Sticks has been harshly dealt with b/c of his often stated "I support the CFC & whoever is President has my support" line. He still plays in front & sometimes gets crunched from behind but club loyalty seems to be inshort supply at the moment & he is also going to keep Gibbs happy if things remain sour on the field...)

PS. We will still win a flag before Collingwood, Eddie or not...

wonder what his TC username is?

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There's so much I could say...

Boy, nice work - though I struggle to work out how you can get an inside scoop before anybody else, living out there in Tatooine!

I guess if true this would explain why Smorgo decided to move the AGM back - he thinks it's a lot easier to win people over with wads of cash in your hand!

Its easy for Sticks to support every president right or wwrong.. when theyre gone he just jumps over to the next group and goes along with whatever is going....

But to me.. there is something fundamentally wrong with going along with any stupidity a president arranges for the club and when it all goes pear shape with no accountability for his own actions he can just meander on to the next group as if nothing happened...

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