Troy, you're wrong in saying this, because getting gardiner would, as hammer has pointed out, cost us not only the first pick in the PSD, but we'd have to keep him on the books for 2 years, and who knows what sort of damage he'd do to player morale, leading younger impressionable players astray etc.

He's just not worth the risk. End of story!

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

We don't have to support anything the club do IS. Did you support every decision John Elliott made? As an Australian have you supported every decsion Howard has made?
Picking up Gardiner would almost be as bad as when we picked up Mick Martyn. The last few seasons when he gets on the park he is just an average forward not a ruckman.

What are the alternatives for the pick?

Spose we will have to wait and see..

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The problem will be made. for the solution to be sold, to your face before your eyes, tolerance is now the new danger

A young bloke who slips through the draft either through injury or lack of exposure during the U18 carnival? An Eddie Betts, a Danyle Pearce, a Jason Porplyzia - or any number of rookie prospects.

Now I know that for each of those, there are equivalent failures, but that's where we have to put faith in our recruiting team.

I'd sooner take a chance on a young bloke of good character with 10 years up his sleeve than take a huge chance on a guy who we know has injury problems, questionable character, and a short lifespan in the game.

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Congratulations CK95

:sigh:
another day ....another step down the stairway to hell...

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There's so much I could say...

There is nothing that the club could do that would make me not buy a membership.

How anyone can support this man Pagan is beyond me ...this current situation with board & coach is just beyond belief ...it really is.
Using members' money to fund these types of decisions is almost criminal.

I feel like a fool tipping in my small contribution with these buffoons running the joint.

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There's so much I could say...

Is Athorn still on the market too? He must be running around somewhere.

A package of Gardiner, Devonport and Athorn for our number 1 pre-season pick sounds good to me.

So Denis can start drawing up the paper work for the pick 1 for Gardiner trade then?

OK my bad i will rephrase that,

There is nothing (realistic) the club would do that would make me not buy a membership.

I think he really has a role to play..... a very important one which we are currently desperately lacking.



















Next time someone snipes one of our young players ( a la Copeland on Murphy)...he comes along and snots them! Gets rubbed out for 6.....if he can't snot them in play, he makes sure that he tells them his "good friends Bruno and Rocco" will be paying them a visit.

I think he's worth having on the books for the next couple of years just for that....doesn't need to play any games really!

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“Every single element of the Club has to be the best in the league, meticulously and methodically, and only by doing this will we be elite and challenge for number 17.”
Greg Lee

It’s unbelievable isn’t it; we are the laughing stock of the AFL…..again

We have the #1 pick in the PSD and the best we can do is Michael Gardiner. He is way past his best, is injury prone, a head case, and cant play in the Ruck!

We should be targeting young players in the PSD eg Meeson or F Deluca....Last year we could have had a crack at Salopek, but in the end we didn’t try hard enough to bring him across, and ended up getting McLaren

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"Dont count the games, make the games count"

That is the point.
Players will be more inclined to return home if a club makes their intentions known.
How would you feel if a young 19 year old star in the making like Chris Knights decided to enter the PSD and we'd committed to Gardiner?

We should be pushing as hard as possible to attract the best possible player.That should be the only option.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Agree....someone like Knights would be the go.....as Mojo said get Renouf or Jacobs and we can grow a young list together.
Can this madness get any worse??....Does Wayne Hughes really want Gardiner or has he just been overidden by this lunatic Pagan?

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"When you have the attitude of a champion, you see adversity as your
training partner."
- Conor Gillen

The sad, sad reality of our sad pathetic club

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I was going to start a new post until George's little piece.If anyone thinks taking Gardiner is a wise choice they dont know enough about the situation.Here are the facts.
1Gardiner's knees are half buggered.He doesnt play on the ball for Claremont more a permanent resting tall forward.
2 He is having problems with his groin.
3 He cant play up forward very well as we saw in the Grannie 2005
4 He is a flower headcase
5He is 27.

Now I understand the reasoning behind getting an established ruckman as we must pick Gibbs.But not Gardiner.Why not Batson or someone else with youth on his side.
Or like Saints did with Rix.Why pick Gardiner because he is just about finished as an AFL footballer.The fact that he would need his own carpark when he gets his licence back is just added incentive to not getting him.


Pagan has completly lost it if he thinks that Gardiner would be any value to this team on the field.@#$%&! I love this club but they shit me.

I'd like Knights in the PSD too, but he's signed.

Who is the head of our football department??

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

I'd heard he's agreed to terms but not signed.

The point is that there are better and younger players than Gardiner who would be worth approaching.
Targeting Gardiner instead of making our intentions known to all potential recruits is ridiculous.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB2/vi ... 913#349913

Nobody disputed it at the time.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Mr Gibbs can we introduce young Bryce to our star recruit Michael Gardiner???

Im with you John M.. im sick of the dicks that run our club and consistently make detrimental decisions.

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