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Synbad
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The day were not posting negative stuff and just enjoying our club is the day were back at the top.
Right now, its important we speak out about the problems that the club faces so we can force change.

Wangers.. whats the Unofficial Selection Committee getting a drunk Elliot out of office have to do with the lack of leadership we have today?

The change had to be made just as it does today.!!!

But if people cant be assed to go and vote (not sure if you voted at the last election or not) then the club wont be vibrant.

We must be vigilant!!!..
We must be aware !!!

and we must care!!!.. and not expect things to just happen like magic...cos they wont!!!

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I'd be hoping that the physios are in charge of Walker, Murphy and the like slo_mo. ;)

And as for Mulkearns being the top of his field, I'd also suggest that we could do a lot better with a good strength & conditioning coach, and a refresh on our attitudes regarding player's body shapes.


Actually, that's a fair call. I would imagine that all the blokes that are coming back from ops would be spending a fair amount of time with the physios during the next 8 weeks or so. I take it that all the guys will be having a break before preseason training starts ...... and the fitness and conditioning coach would be having a break as well (if he wasn't already on an enforced holiday). :?:
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jimmae wrote:
I'd be hoping that the physios are in charge of Walker, Murphy and the like slo_mo. ;)

And as for Mulkearns being the top of his field, I'd also suggest that we could do a lot better with a good strength & conditioning coach, and a refresh on our attitudes regarding player's body shapes.


Actually, that's a fair call. I would imagine that all the blokes that are coming back from ops would be spending a fair amount of time with the physios during the next 8 weeks or so. I take it that all the guys will be having a break before preseason training starts ...... and the fitness and conditioning coach would be having a break as well (if he wasn't already on an enforced holiday). :?:


Havent you guys ever heard of recovery/rehab programs???

what the hall is wrong with you all???
Of course they will have a rehab program to follow and they have to be supervised....

If you listen to too much of what jimmae says youll go mad!!!

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There are Physio's for them too see that are linked with the club........

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There are Physio's for them too see that are linked with the club........


In that case we dont need a conditioning manager.. lets save some money.. we have been wasting it for too long.. right???

are you guys for real???

Is this how you run a professional sporting club???

Is that the perception you want our kids.. and their parents to have ???

The stupidity is just mind boggling...

Its like nothing matters.. anything will do...!!!

Its like were running an amateur club!!!

Cant you just wake up??!?!??!?!?!?

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Who you calling 'you' you?

People that think everything will be right.... and that nothing matters...

Are you a you???

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There are Physio's for them too see that are linked with the club........


In that case we dont need a conditioning manager.. lets save some money.. we have been wasting it for too long.. right???

are you guys for real???

Is this how you run a professional sporting club???

Is that the perception you want our kids.. and their parents to have ???

The stupidity is just mind boggling...

Its like nothing matters.. anything will do...!!!

Its like were running an amateur club!!!

Cant you just wake up??!?!??!?!?!?


I guess what i was trying to say is that when our conditioning coach goes there are still other avenues incase we fail to find a suitable candidate to fill those shoesin the meantime. Players like Walks, Murph, amd Kennedy will not be without help as some are implying...

I do however agree with the basis of your argument, we must stop running the club like ametuers.

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I wouldnt have wrote this thread if it wasnt that people are concerned.. !!!

So maybe the powers to be havent communicated to the players and the medicos that they have a plan...

Either way there is a genuine concern!!!!

And that means the club has been negligent one way or the other.

Were talking about kids like/ including Murphy Kennedy Bentick and Walker...!!!(as the kids in the predicament not my source of the anxiety...)

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DOA ..... is Andrew being looked after???
Has a program been put in place for him and his rehab?

How about anyone else that has a close relationship with any of these kids .... have they all been left out in the cold? If that's really the case, then it would be nothing short of criminal. They are our only hope!!!!
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There's a little time up our sleeve Synners, that's all I'm saying.

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jimmae wrote:
There's a little time up our sleeve Synners, that's all I'm saying.


See i dont think we have any time up our sleeves.

We want the kids to perform or theyre out.. but we have to have an infrustructure laid down for them...


the club needs to be a professional outfit... or we will be just slipping further and further behind...

just because its the off season it doesnt mean the club goes into hybernation..

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Synbad wrote:
just because its the off season it doesnt mean the club goes into hybernation..


We have an off season .... WHEN?? :shock:

24/7/365 thank you very much ...... !!
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Synbad wrote:
The word is the club doctors are completely alarmed by developments.
The sacrificial lamb has included Mulkearns who had a good history of keeping OP and soft muscle injuries to a min
We have 5 players going in for ops .They will be left to rehab themselves with noone ready to take over.The club doctors are concerned this can put the recoveries back a long way....

One of the reasons French left was because he just couldnt handle Denis and the players DONT want to play for him.....Interesting to hear a kid like Setanta pumping Mitchell up yesterday at the Bullants game on ABC REALLY pumping up Mitchells tyres.....and citing him as a big part 0of his development because Michell believes in him.

Now Mitchell miht not be the big name some supporters in here want... but what people dont understand is thats who the players want to play for and they have a deep believe in him for their development.

The board in my opinion is negligent to not sack Denis.. They shit themselves .. they sacked Mulkearns without a replacement .. kept Denis and club morale is at an all time low... Denis is still here...

This is a board that has no idea...its a rabble.. and it has compromised the players and the club!!!

They have to go!!!


It makes you wonder then.

Pagan has such a good history with kids but in recent times he has lost it!

The wizard cup final was special and the players were 'playing' for him!

I'm confused as things have changed dramatically! Whats happened since??

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Now Mitchell miht not be the big name some supporters in here want... but what people dont understand is thats who the players want to play for and they have a deep believe in him for their development.


But Synbad, wasn't that the siuation with Britts, players wanted him, he related well to them. And wasn't that one of your criticisms, and one of the reasons you were so aggressively pro Pagan for his first few years?

And if we want to be professional shouldn't we go for the best avaialble in Australia, not just the only guy left at Carlton. Mitch may be the best candidate, but appointing him without searching would be madness. Tho the Boards flip flop is pretty absurd too I know.


Fraser Brown is a great mate of Elliott and I sure as hell won't be voting for anyone who gives any solace to that clown. And regarding Ratts, he's a long way from a senior coaching job. He went to Melbourne did okay, walked out after a year, did the same in SA and is now coaching a suburban team. Needs to put in the hard yards to get to senior coach, not rely on a conditional bank roll from his mate Fraser.

And I wouldn't have Braddles back as a coach. His record is very ordinary, accepting jobs at Essendon* and the Saints and then walking out before he'd even started. Let's get the best whoever it is and whoever they played for. And if we can't get a significantly better coach than Pagan, wait till we can.
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Ratten on the weekend made the only logical comments in this week long farce when he said that the FD should not all be made up of ex players.

I would give Ratts the Assistant gig over SOS.

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Just as a matter of interest, Luke Darcy has spent a lot of winter mornings at MSAC with the Bulldogs S & C coach rehabilitating his knee. I don't think I saw him do one exercise without supervision.

In terms of results, I would have thought our lack of soft tissue injuries is one of our few positives.

Also, how weak has Pagan been at saving his right hand men? Regardless of what anyone thinks of their abilities, he has cast them aside fairly quickly.

Does that suggest he doesn't rate them, or is self preservation the key motivating factor?

If it is the latter, what does that mean about who we draft and who we play next year?

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Also, how weak has Pagan been at saving his right hand men? Regardless of what anyone thinks of their abilities, he has cast them aside fairly quickly.

Does that suggest he doesn't rate them, or is self preservation the key motivating factor?

If it is the latter, what does that mean about who we draft and who we play next year?


Pagan has worked very hard to keep them by his side, however in his current predicament he had no choice..

That was pretty obviouse.

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