We are a rabble.

If as much time as writing that speech had been put into actually handling the issues, maybe Caro and that woudl have had nothing to write about.

We got a ridiculous non decision form the board. Pagan is half sacked. What a joke. We are the laughing stock of the AFL and Demitrespew must be loving it to see us continue to inflict the AFL's harsh penatlies - on ourselves.

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Couldn't agree more with all of that BH. IN ANY OTHER AFL CLUB THE BOARD WOULD HAVE DEMANDED STICKS' RESIGNATION WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT.

Get these clowns out of office before too much more damage is done.

Just heard Eddie sucking up to both 774 and 3AW - thanking them for a great coverage of the sport and what they do etc. - identical BS but smart greasing of the media. Much smarter then a certain Carlton VP.

as a carlton supporter that is one of the most embarrassing things i have ever seen....

unprofessional and an attempt to bring false smiles to gloss over the fact that we are a friggin rabble.

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Sticks just thrusted himself to Carton folklore and condemned the club to a public relations hell.

Guarenteed that the average dumb supporter will vote for him for the next 10 years...but stuck another knife into the club!

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Sticks is rapidly becoming one of the biggest embarrassments at the club -and that is saying something.

He seems to be doing mroe damage to his and the club's reputation everytime his opens his mouth.

there an old saying from sports jopurnos when players get shirty about their analysis etc.

"I wrote about your frist game and I'll write about your last one too".

It seems funny and right, but its commercial flower suicide. We've just give all those jouros even more ammunition to write damaging stuff about our great club.

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The more we hear about it the media the better off we'll be....start worrying if the media stop talking about it...coz that's when the knives will come out.

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Maybe sticks is trying to make next year as difficult as possible so that we get the priority pick..

Runs for cover..

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And what's that one about the pen being mightier than the sword????!!!!

negativity ooh yeah

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Let's hope the media sticks the knives in even further I say!

After all, didn't we come to consensus a few weeks ago that Mike Sheahan's "Blue Skies Ahead" article was merely a sugar-coating of the whole situation at Carlton and that in reality we are in fact stuffed for the next century?! Come on, we don't want anything resembling positivity to dare rear its head in the media!

So keep sticking those knives in!

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How pathetic was Sticks on Friday night.Looks like he has been taking lessons from big Jack about how not to accept full responsibility of his own mistakes.Another example of the rabble we are.

What can he say?

I think we are expecting something that just isn't there...we are expecting some magic words to appear and to make it all allright....like a magic lullaby....

Nothing more needs to be said....and nothing will satisfy us so who cares if he has a laugh over the media? (Scum, mind you)

You've all got chips on you're shoulders....

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Here's a few ideas:

He could have spoken about our 1st and 2nd year kids, and how something is building. Urging them to get this proud club back to where it belongs on the fields.

He could have talked about what the B&F means to players - he won a few - and how much pride you get striving to get the best out of yourself every week and often sacrificing your own game for the good of the team.

He could have spoken about the benefits of hard work, and the huge improvements that you can make as a player in the space of 1 year. Fev 2005 vs Fev 2006, Heath Scotland 2005 v Heath Scotland 2006. Walker, Kade and so on. Emphasize to the players that things can change very quickly in football.

He could have talked about the journey from 1991 - 1995, and how 95 meant so much because we were at one of our lowest ebbs in the early 90s.

But he chose not to.

He chose to get personal with the journos because they wrote nasty things about him and the crap process.

What do the players get out of that? The young blokes that have played < 20 games?

"Our team is going to get no favours in the press, people think we're a rabble, why is our VP centring an entire speech - which should be about the B&F and the whole season - on one weeks worth of journo bashings?"

Nothing but negativity came from that. We need the young blokes especially to get instilled in them that THEY will bring this club back to greatness. They own the place, and the next few years are their time. If a great man like Sticks says that, you're going to take notice.

But instead he had to score points. Which he failed to do.

Such a shame.

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Well said MC Bluehammer.

It doesn't take a genius, and that's exactly why Kernahan said what he said - coz he ain't one!

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The journos he bagged deserved what they got and to say it was a public relations disaster inform me why .The ones he bagged have not written a positive article about CFC in 4 years so what will change. All they ever do is stick the boot in whether it is true or not .Fatprick has mentioned the salary cap rorting in every article he writes and he has done it again this am. Their is only so much of this crap people can take before they snap.

I disagree I say good on Sticks for having a whack back. These people in the press have been having pot shots and Sticks and his fellow board members for some weeks now . Sticks doesn't have a median where he has right of reply .

So good on sticks for telling where to go and standing up for himself and fellow board members .

Its plainly obvious to everyone that the board had decided to get rid of Pagan and were told by the AFL not to . so what does the press expect a cash strapped club to do go against advice from the AFL.

The press were using this to make the club look like an un organised rabble and were doing quite a good job of it . Sticks had every right to tell them to go and Get F*#ked because his hand was forced

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correct sydney bluecorrect but the funny thing is Fatprick was asked on sen this morning by Maher which part of the reporting was not 100% correct and yes he said the story about the AFL telling us to keep Pagan. In other words total bullshit reporting.

Chips.....


This is the thing!!!Anyone can friggin say it!!!....If he gets up there and says almost word for word what a bloody fan has posted on a forum then he may aswell sing dixie!!

He got up there and gave it to these slime-bags they call media. Good on him. He has guts. Let's hope it instills some values to our kids that the Media do infact suck and they should be given no respect.....

He has probably had a @#$%&! gut-ful of all the shit that has been flung at the CFC for how many years now...

I don't give a toss that he had a go....it was good listening.

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