Just saw it on Channel 7. Pretty poor body language by Sticks.

Despite whichever camp you find yourself in, I DO NOT WANT TO HEAR ABOUT ANYONE NOT RENEWING MEMBERSHIPS.




Get behind this club and help to rebuild it. We desperatly need every single one of you.

I bet all the other coaches (especially those that are not in the finals) will be opening up a nice bottle of red tonight - at least 1 maybe 2 guaranteed wins next year!!

You're not buying a membership to support the board...its to support the CLUB...which is bigger than one guy.

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We have reached our lowest point i feel, not because Denis was reappointed but of the way everything was handled

Did we need to have a 2 day media circus outside MC Labour Park to do all this?

I'll continue to buy my membership and attend games because i know no better, but geez that Carlton fan who attends 3-4 games a year is reading the papers, watching the telly and seeing all this crap unfold.

Why would you want to join up?

This i am afraid is going to have a huge bearing on our membership next season and if things don't improve early on the field we could be in deep deep shit off it, more so than we are now.


I vote these people on to make strong and confident decisions as the face and brains behind the football club i have supported since i popped out, not this crap.

It hurts. It really does. And I think that if you're not hurting today, you don't really support the Blues.

Whichever way you think about it, you'd want the process to be done professionally. If Pagan stays, then all that leaking to the press was completely unprofessional and stupid.

If Pagan goes, then they could have handled it a lot better. This indecision has marked this Board for ages.

It hurts because we're playing poorly.
It hurts because we have the worst brand image in the AFL.
It hurts because there's nothing I can really do about it. I'm not qualified enough to run for the Board, though if I get enough support from you guys I would.
It hurts because most of us can see the bleedingly obvious and can look long-term and seemingly more qualified professional business people cannot.
It hurts because we're crap and nothing's been done to change it.
It hurts because other people just laugh at us and really, there's nothing we can make a comeback against them because we are really a laughing stock.

It hurts because of the impending fear that if nothing changes, then in 3 years we will have no Carlton Blues Football Club, instead the Carlton Kangaroos or some such crap.

It hurts because a lot of good people are going to have to go as a result of this process of not having enough balls.

It hurts badly.

It hurts because the Board had no courage. They blinked. They couldn't see past $$$, they don't see that $$$ and results are related. I really hope that the Board didn't hear about the 80% of HUN and SEN readers/listeners saying they supported Denis. If they did, what an indictment of how unprofessional they are.

Well may they say Pagan save Smorgon because nothing will save Smorgon from the wrath of the Carlton corporates and supporters. Smorgon will go down in history as Pagan's cur.

Shame Smorgon Shame.

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I have not seen or heard the announcemnt. Was there any mention of assitant coaches???

If they get rid of Mitchell they lose my support. I can put up with another 2 years of spoon boy but I can't support getting rid of the only coach we have who got some good results.

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Im no football expert and I reckon I would have done a much better coaching review.

Well the Carlton people that dont look to deeply at things that want Pagan to stay have got their wish, but I think that they have not been careful enough about what they have wished for.

Pagan's tenure is wobbly at best, with so many doubters and with SOS sitting and waiting.

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The Board must be challenged!

They are incompetent.

They are embarrassingly weak.

They are pathetically indecisive.

This club IS at rock bottom with zero respect amongst the AFL community.

For gods sake a ticket must be formed as soon as possible to remove this current bunch of jellybacked incompetents who are rapidly burying what’s barely left of the once powerful Carlton brand.

We need strong decisive group of professionals leading our club who won’t be swayed by media personalities & organisations with agenda’s.

We need a board who have a clear set of goals with powerful resources to drive their agenda in restoring dignity and pride to all members an ultimately success for all Carlton people.

Enough!

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There's so much I could say...

So what are you saying? You would rather Pagan gone right now with all our draft picks for the next two years than have Pagan stay?

Lets hope you never make it onto the board.

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Hey guys we are more depressing than the board lets just take a deep breath and let the football dept see who they pick as assistants. Then we can get hostile again. Hey shit happens and hopefully this board will be replaced at the next AGM. And if mitchell does not like the senario that has been painted then stiff shit No one is irreplacepable and the sooner they get it the better. That includes our board.

THE TIME FOR ACTION IS NOW!

I SAY WE FORM A GROUP AND FORCE A SPILL OF THE BOARD!

WE CAN CALL OURSELVES THE UNOFFICIAL... waitasecond!

Something tells me some of the sources have been pulling poster's strings.

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Agree totally. I have defended alot of things but draw the line now. Next year is my 20th straight year as a member & will be very hard for me to renew. We have kept a coach for financial reasons only. This is a disgrace, JE must be laughing at all of us now!

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I'm using the analogy that it feels like a boil has been treated with antibiotics instead of being lanced and removed on the spot.

Whatever....It CANNOT be good for Club morale.

But then again....neither are wooden spoons.....all is not lost....bring on the Draft!

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If you don't renew as members you have NO SAY in removing this board or voting in any new ones.

Agree totally. I have defended alot of things but draw the line now. Next year is my 20th straight year as a member & will be very hard for me to renew. We have kept a coach for financial reasons only. This is a disgrace, JE must be laughing at all of us now!

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...of a board spill and subsequent pagan sacking occurring prior to the draft/trade period?

I'd imagine it would be fairly tight in terms of times but if such a motion was put in place, the challengers could perform due dilligencve on coaching etc whilst in the wings to mske up some time?

15th (should have been 16th), 10th, 16th and 16th yet we are keeping the coach

QFT

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what a @#$%&! debacle!!!! i've never been embarrassed to be a carlton suppporter, but i tell you its getting harder and harder to defend such incompetence. i can handle the on field performance. i can handle finishing down the bottom. what i can't handle is the lack of direction and leadership from the club. we need a president who is prepared to take the bull by the horns and shake this club up. get it back firing on all cylinders. dare i say it.... an eddie

this crap should never have been brought into the public forum the way it has. this club will go no-where until off field matters are taken care of. don't even bother talking about the playing group. if the club isn't put back on the right track off-field, we wont have a club for much longer.