We came to a decision.... that we will not make a decision tonight.. or tomorrow.. see u in a week... wait i have to go stick my head in sand...

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Deni$ seems goneeeeeeeeee.

Only stumbling block i think is that mitchell is not a preferred option and other options will need to be suss.

Smorgan heistated in his way he addressed the issue and could not endorse him as the 2007 coach

Bit harsh to bag the board for the lack of decision tonight, particularly given they made no promise that there would be a 'decision' as such. It would be a shame to see this drag on, but to rush this, for the sake of a few days, would be foolish.

I'm happy to put my emotions on hold, and wait for the outcome - very little confidence shown in the coach tonight, so I don't think we should hang, draw and quarter until we're given something definitive.

Surely the board need to be judged on the quality of the decision, and not how long it takes to make. Just get it right, for crying out loud.

SMorgan is a moron and he should be gone! He's going to run this club into the ground like a fruit juice store... cannot believe they are doing this to Denis...probably will walk now anyway...morons.

The Board is a joke and they make CFC look like a joke. The problem is that now there will be heaps of speculation and make the club a laughing stock.

I agree. It depends on what the decision will be. If it's sack Pagan and have a process for appointing a coach, then that's good, even if it takes a few days.

But, as others have said, I seriously doubt that the Board could be so smart as to be able to do this, particularly with those cowboys Kernahan and Gleeson doing the football department review.

Having said that, I don't think Pagan's future is at all rosy. If it was, then a statement would have been issued to appease the club faithful.

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- Igor Stravinsky

the board should also be judged on how they handle a situation.

Its a farce,.



Names have been named...contracts have been exposed.. journos have been tipped off... people have been put off side...

There are right ways of handling things and wrong ways...

This is bad.

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Cha-Ching! Then we don't have to pay him out!

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"A good composer does not initiate. He steals."

- Igor Stravinsky

But the board in all its wisdom appointed Sticks and Bear to conduct the review.

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Interesting comment made though .. Kernahan does wield considerable power being one of the few foodtball heads on the board ... and club legend ect .. i dont think the board could afford to have sticks .. gleeson lesser to walk ...

Also look at the names in the background .. williams ... and obviously alluding to some ex - blues willing to return if there is change ...

And last comment Smorgo made ... looking for outside help ... ie crunching numbers to see how they pay out Pago .. or maybe looking at the benfactors willing to pay out Dennis

Who knows but definately looks fairly a lost cause for Pago ... i reckon now even if they where to retain Pago ... it would be under such scrutiny and also with many negatives from the bpard ect that would be not be a stable enviroment for Pago.

In fact i reckon they have made a decision just havnt announced it till they crunch numbers and work things out in the back end

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CFC TAC Squad everyone over 25 must be traded sounds like Loguns Run

Imagine how it would look if Fraser Brown was the man bank rolling Denis being paid out of his contract? The media would love it. The man widely regarded as having received his pay check in a brown paper bag stepping in to pay out Pagan's contract. It took the board 6 hours to conclude that might not be the best way of doing this?

Pagan shouldhave left that meeting with clarity, either in or out. Not with: 'we'll sack you when we have comeup with a better media brief'.

I think that our board must be held accountable far more than Pagan. He at least can say that he has advanced the playing list. They have really done nothing to drive the club forward, apart from Smorgan gingerly holding up the white jumper (flag?) in his first outing as President. No vision, no initiatives, just self interest and ego driving the brand even lower and lower. If you were an uncontracted talent would you think that Carlton is a about to take the upward curve in their development? No.

Memo to the board: Lead, follow, OR GET THE HELL OUTTA THE WAY!

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The tide is turning

Agree it looks bad for Denis, which is a shame I feel.

Question for the panel. Did the AFL through Fitzy have anything to contribute here? Is he an observer or is he stating what the AFL wants to see and therefore putting a spanner in the works of the board so to speak?
Food for thought?
Goodnight

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Do you think Browny was looking for wsocks under his bed and fiund a brown paper bag and thought he could use it to pay Denis out???

Look the Gleeson Kernahan Williams Brown Hanna Ratten etc alliance has Elliot and Lofts on its side.(and others)

The sticking point for Elliot and Lofts is they dont think Mitch is the right guy (again not a big enough name ) .. and sticks and bear had to back pedal.

But the damage was done and there was no going back.

The other board members dont want to accept $$$$$$$ with strings attached... but they dont want to have to pay the contract out themselves.(Which they are responsible for)

Denis must be pathetic to still want to be there anyway...

Mitchell is a patsey!!!

And we have another chocca block week of Keystone Cops material to look forward to.


Just professionalism...

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I gotta agree that Sticks/Gleeson etc are proxy for Jack. Its a PR mess.

The key really is the replacement.. Cresswell, McKenna and co would be falling over themselves to get this job. A talented, young list and the only way is up. Lets hope the proper processes are in place.

Its better late than never. If Denis is the problem....weve gotta cut and run and get a youthful and talented coach to send things forward. $1Million will be the best money ever spent IF (A). We establish that denis is the problem. (B). We can get McKenna...not Mitchell.

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Too Legit to quit.

HEY...........

where the HELL'S everybody gone............?

i go for a little nap.......come back to check it out.........
and your all DONE..............!

weak as piss............!

WEAK as piss i tells ya.............!


kindest regards tommi













oh well..........looks like it's back to bed......or maybe
not.......i do have that packet of salted cashews and mini
toblerone i could touch up.............!

which of course in turn means i'll have to sleep in in the
morning.........cos of my nap before.........!

buticandothat...............!

anyone else here sleeping in tomorrow..........?

we could sleep in together....you know...........i could get Electric
to inform us of any changes..........and we could nap.......!











AHHHHHHH who cares.........obviously YOU guys don't care.....
and rightly so.........why worry about me........i'm just here when
no-body else is........that's all.............!

with toblerone of course.........!























GOD i'm bored................!

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that'siti'mnotchangingthistagain......!

the club is already in the ground. Thank John Elliot for that.

The exact timing of events is something I am not certain of, but I am condifent that I have the chronolgy of events correct.

So, as I have stated many times in the past :

The old Carlton coach departs in controversial circumstances.

He is not a big name at all, but a new and young man takes over as senior coach.

To the surprise of all, the new coach is very successful, particularly towards the end of the season in what most say is nothing more than a team building year.

But the old coach watches from the stands, satisfied that he put the necessary building blocks in place.

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My Blue Heaven

You've left out the part about the end of the world.

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.