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Elwood Blues1 wrote:
Luke Blackwell..and Setanta....
Fev probably handed the captains job to Lance...


With all the morons on the team, I'm not surprised he was frustrated!!..

I'd be spittin chips if i was him!!.. The team are a bunch of headcases at the moment!..

A change of coach may not be such a bad idea.. Extremely dissappointing finish, Barry Mitchell seems the type of guy that could really lift the spirits of the place..

I've been a Pagan fan from the start and have had my doubts all year about his management style...I'm not one to come to rash conclusions but im SO SICK of being down the bottom and the constant mediocrity we have had to put up with!

We all know were in this rebuilding phase atm and its one of those things you have to go through... But we could have easily won an extra 4 or 5 games had the players had more self belief and confidence.. Players like Waite seem to be stagnating...

Does a lot of it boil down to the coach??.. It's certainly a question worth asking!..

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Setanta putting his hand up for 1st choice CHB next year. :-D

Bower getting some fantastic experience by playing on O'Loughlin :-D

Jackson showing quite a few glimpses of REAL footy nous. Precious gametime for him. :-D

Blackers giving 100% and leading by example. Class. :-D

Barney getting a goal at the end. Thanks for your all your 100% efforts big fella. Respect. :-D

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I, along with other Carlton people I was with thought Whitnall's positioning was very good, and showed plenty of smarts getting a few meters ahead of his opponent to provide the link, and move the ball quicker, or led into space, but was ignored...ignored!!


Interesting you say Lance was ignored.

Sydney Blue reports that Pagan clearly instructed the players to ignore free men in the pocket to kick to Fevola and Whitnall in the middle.

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Whitnall was ignored because he made leads towards the flanks and the pockets or standing in the middle blocking up space.

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bondiblue wrote:
I, along with other Carlton people I was with thought Whitnall's positioning was very good, and showed plenty of smarts getting a few meters ahead of his opponent to provide the link, and move the ball quicker, or led into space, but was ignored...ignored!!


Interesting you say Lance was ignored.

Sydney Blue reports that Pagan clearly instructed the players to ignore free men in the pocket to kick to Fevola and Whitnall in the middle.


and they did and usually over his head or at his toes or to a contest

Whitnal was rooted after the first quarter

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bondiblue wrote:

I, along with other Carlton people I was with thought Whitnall's positioning was very good, and showed plenty of smarts getting a few meters ahead of his opponent to provide the link, and move the ball quicker, or led into space, but was ignored...ignored!!



Interesting you say Lance was ignored.

Sydney Blue reports that Pagan clearly instructed the players to ignore free men in the pocket to kick to Fevola and Whitnall in the middle.


Yes he was ignored a few times when he was trying to position himself as a link to move the ball faster, but that's not lost us the game. I thought that his positioning at times was good; not everytime.

On the flipside I also agree with Captain Clem that he did make leads towards the flanks and the pockets, and was largely ignored.


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Whitnall was ignored because he made leads towards the flanks and the pockets or standing in the middle blocking up space


What concerned me most about that, was that by ignoring him you'd think there was better options upfield. Wouldn't you? No, there was a kick up the ground, followed by turnover. It happened several times around the members wing/ HF. He should have been taken advantage of, regardless of the fact that it was to a pocket, because it would have meant it ended deeper into our forwardline, and give us an opportunity to put the ball in the hot spot where Waite and Coleman medalist Fevola was lurking.

Whitnall was quiet, no doubt, but I was actually happy with his efforts as a forward, and unhappy with our players not playing a team game when the opportunity presented.

There's no doubt that as Sydney Blue wrote
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, but so too were many Carlton players dropping like flies from about the 17 minute mark of the first quarter, as the pace of the Swans was sensational...and they continued this pace throughout the game. A different class of teams were on the field.

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