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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:14 am 
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That must be the most infuriating loss in 10 years. I'm still as grumpy as hell 10 hours after the game. I counted 6 goals to Essendon* that could be directly attributed to our pathetic skill level. It's time to name names.

Do we have the clumsiest footballers to ever pull on a boot?

McGrath - Consistently appalling decision making
French - Seems to cough up a goal a game
Carrazzo - Terrible disposal as a rule
Walker - Still young so there's hope but MUST work on his kicking

Who else are our consistent "Ball Butchers"?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:44 am 
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Today, Houlihan was one.

McGrath wasn't our best - though I thought his poor handball would have erased most of the good work he'd done.

Poor decision making I think is more the problem, rather than poor disposal.

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Really makes you think, this thread.


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Hmmm........

feeling a little bored are you Verbsta.........?


kindest regards tommi

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Fisher and Waite.

I'm still trying to work out what Fisher was trying to when he chipped that ball sideways on the Members wing in the third quarter. :?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:16 am 
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Keyser Soze wrote:
That must be the most infuriating loss in 10 years. I'm still as grumpy as hell 10 hours after the game. I counted 6 goals to Essendon* that could be directly attributed to our pathetic skill level. It's time to name names.

Do we have the clumsiest footballers to ever pull on a boot?

McGrath - Consistently appalling decision making
French - Seems to cough up a goal a game
Carrazzo - Terrible disposal as a rule
Walker - Still young so there's hope but MUST work on his kicking

Who else are our consistent "Ball Butchers"?

Kouta butchered the ball a few times Saturday.Also missed 3 easy attempts for goal.
Stevens is #4 in the AFL for clangers and on Saturday he clangered 7 times!


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:41 am 
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Keyser Soze wrote:
That must be the most infuriating loss in 10 years.


We lost? I know we didn't win but we didn't lose either.

It's more the pressure and lack of a consistent game plan than poor skill level.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:48 am 
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We will never move forward until our decision making and skill level increases. We work just as hard as most teams however we turn the ball over to easy. Waite at times looks like he is cruising and his disposal looks lazy as does Carrots. They both need to be more direct and not so fancy.

Sick of watching us butcher the bloody ball. I often go to training and I don't see the players train under real pressure. At training almost every disposal hits it target. I believe they need to train under game simulation and dispose the ball under pressure. Anyone on an AFL list can look a million dollars on the track under no pressure.

We have too many butchers of the footy!


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:49 am 
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Pagan keeps claiming they're working very hard on their skills and decision making. Not sure how they're doing that.


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Nick Stevens, Come On Down!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:58 am 
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Keyser Soze wrote:
Carrazzo - Terrible disposal as a rule


Have to be the biggest butcher in the AFL. He gets a heap of the ball because opposition clubs don't man up on him knowing that he will turn it over almost every single time. Trade him for a 3rd pick


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If Carazzo is the biggest butcher of the ball in the AFL who would give you a third round pick in the best draft of all time?

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Synbad wrote:
If Carazzo is the biggest butcher of the ball in the AFL who would give you a third round pick in the best draft of all time?


True...hopefully some silly club will.
Weren't the crows interested there at one stage to pick up Sporn for a pick 16 last year


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Rhys26 wrote:
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If Carazzo is the biggest butcher of the ball in the AFL who would give you a third round pick in the best draft of all time?


True...hopefully some silly club will.
Weren't the crows interested there at one stage to pick up Sporn for a pick 16 last year


Yes they were and he failed a bone density test or something.....we cant even see knee problems on blokes with documented knee problems...

Anyway.. Carazzo is doing a great job ... he isnt the problem.

I really cant understand who people only look at the obvious and make a call on that rather than use some analysis to analyse .

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Synbad wrote:
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Weren't the crows interested there at one stage to pick up Sporn for a pick 16 last year


Yes they were and he failed a bone density test or something.....we cant even see knee problems on blokes with documented knee problems...

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JuzzCarlton wrote:
Fisher and Waite.


Agreed. I don't see these guys making it as forwards with the kicking skill they have. Tired of seeing their poor kicking undo their own good work.
The backline beckons.

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TheGame wrote:
JuzzCarlton wrote:
Fisher and Waite.


Agreed. I don't see these guys making it as forwards with the kicking skill they have. Tired of seeing their poor kicking undo their own good work.
The backline beckons.


And see us turn the ball over off HB, oh that's just great... :roll:

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CarltonClem wrote:
TheGame wrote:
JuzzCarlton wrote:
Fisher and Waite.


Agreed. I don't see these guys making it as forwards with the kicking skill they have. Tired of seeing their poor kicking undo their own good work.
The backline beckons.


And see us turn the ball over off HB, oh that's just great... :roll:


There has been plenty of great backman who have been dud kicks.

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TheGame wrote:
CarltonClem wrote:
TheGame wrote:
JuzzCarlton wrote:
Fisher and Waite.


Agreed. I don't see these guys making it as forwards with the kicking skill they have. Tired of seeing their poor kicking undo their own good work.
The backline beckons.


And see us turn the ball over off HB, oh that's just great... :roll:


There has been plenty of great backman who have been dud kicks.


Kenny Hunter....
Andrew McKay
Mario Bortolotto .... :wink:

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