Rocket science = kicking the ball long inside 50 to our strengths - Fev, Whitnall and Kouta. Interesting that it's taken us until the second quarter of round 9 to do so. 7 goals result. The million $ question - have the players ignored Pagan for 8 weeks or did the players just decide after quarter time that they'd move the ball around differently?

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He doesn't get credit, because he should have played the crows one on one from the start. Just like he should not have had Lance starting on Croad.

Why didn't Pagan instruct them to go one on one earlier?

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I'm sick of this Pagan bagging shit...
Every single day somebody has to start a new thread on the some old thing.

Spot on Jarusa....

You're right, but you have to give him credit for changing the game plan. I'm not the biggest pagan fan, I think we should be moving the ball quicker, but there are a lot of stupid errors we make, mostly from the senior players, that he can't be held responsible for.

I'm more disappointed when I see Scotland, Kouta, Lappin or Stevens put in a half hearted chase at this stage.

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The imposter Pagan was sacked at quarter time. The old Pagan has just arrived in town from holidays and has said what is this bullshit your playing, i want hard contested, direct football !!!

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Funny thing is we had people here whinging about the long kicking game plan for three years.

All of a sudden people want it back.

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I've been arguing for a while that he should be given time and that I don't really count the first two years as part of that but the current situation has me scratching my head bosman.

I went home from the Carlton-Tiges games severely dispirited. I'm no great fan of a number of our overpaid hacks but the tactical (read lack of) work by the coaching box was just plain ridiculous.

If Pagan's deliberately tanking it makes some sense but he's clearly not.

Persisting with a one or two man forward line when all it does is give the opposition a free ride is simply dumb. Why do we start this way each week when all it does is give the opposition a head start?

I don't get it and the coaching panel look like they're jumping at shadows at the moment.

If we go on to beat Adelaide and everything turns around from there then terrific but at the moment I'm struggling to find any good moves coming out of the box and there's no shortage of evidence of the opposite.

I posted recently that I thought Pagan deserved until about mid next year but based on the last few weeks it'd need to turn around pretty soon for him to last that long.

I don't see any of this as Pagan bashing - just disillusionment with the way the box goes about it.

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I don't think that sentiment is directed to you in particular GWS, this board has been a depressing place with hyperbole after hyperbole directed at Pagan in recent weeks.

There has been precious little objective analysis.

The 'red mist' has taken over.

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you got your objective analysis by a number of posters a week or 2 ago... there's only so many times objectors can say the same thing, when the coach is making the same mistakes.

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Did you see the forward line structure just then when Fev went for a run along the wing?

What's amazing is that the one on one style was working just before half time, and at half time Pagan decides to change it back - putting Lance down back and telling Fev to take a mark against 3 opponents

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No they tried to regain possession and slow it down, now they're getting a bit of the ball they're on the attack again.

You're joking aren't you?

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The ball hits the ground in our forward line but because we have flooded back Adelaide have a loose man *Mcleod this time* who just cleans up

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Mcleod again without an opponent

How can you let such a damaging player go without an opponent?

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Could you analyse Nick Steven's game for me this week?

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Could you give me a reason to care?

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Just that most of the objective one's can see after 4 years (repeat 4 years!!!). It's not as if it's 6 weeks into the 1st year of a tenure. Some of us can work it out, others dream on, clutch at straws and live on hope with no sense of objectivity of the situation whatsoever.

Anytime you want to discuss objectivity......