He's right

And, BTW, is that a young Robert Redford in that picture.... or Lance Whitnall?????

What Stevens also failed to mention is how some selection policies are killing us.

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Which ones?

"Killing" might have been a bit of an exaggeration

"not helping" is more accurate

Take your pick from DeLuca, Chambers, Sporn.........

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not helping us - euphanism for trying to win rather than develop.

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yes

but trying to win with a pair of 2s, knowing your opponent has an ace-high flush

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I like our pair of twos and reckon we are about to add at least two more 2's

take a gamble ya weak prick, there's more cards to turn over yet!

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

call me conservative, but I'm just not interested in gambling with Chambers as my trump card, and DeLuca my 3-high

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no no they are my bluffs

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

I don't know which Carlton Stevo is watching but I don't think that we are anywhere close to playing winning football. Why - I'll tell you why:

1) Players are inconsistent - Scotland (and others) brilliant one week and useless the next week.

2) Poor skill level - just look at our shooting at goal and general field disposal. We CANNOT hit targets or man up!

3) Game Plan - I (like the players) have NO IDEA what it is.

Am I alone here or do others agree????????

disagree

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

But why ?????

I disagree as well, but with some caveats....

We have some great young personnel...... but young players make some mistakes and thats bound to happen for a little while longer.

Though I do believe that Pagan errs at the selection table, and overestimates the ability of some players (including, for example, Whitnall's ability to play on a Croad)

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Chambers & Sporn didn't play this week so you can't blame it on them.

read about a thousand of my threads - the answers are in there somewhere

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the "......." indicate there are more..... there is a subset that when dipped into our chances of winning don't increase. Teague, sadly, is also on that list.

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I'm with Ty, in that young players are inconsistent (OK, so Scotto isn't that young....), and we'll get so frustratingly close to playing winning footy, and then one day, it will all click into place - it might not even be this year - and BAM! we're back, and winning footy will be far easier to come by. Look at the way Hawthorn have been playing this year....

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

Guys like Walker and Murphy are just awesome young players. And they're not alone on our list. These guys are "world class" talents..... the more action they get, the better we'll be... and things WILL click eventually.....

however..... we have a launching board in place.... but that board will be in place for any coach... what Pagan has to do is actually make the launch. The jury (in my mind) is out on that. Pagan both infuriates me at times, and warrants my respect. He did excellently in the Melbourne game, but still had a few eye-raising player selections..... then the next week he inexplicably brought in Chambers............

Pagan seems caught between selection policies. I feel he has the 2004 selection policy at heart, but conceeds for certain kids, and not others.

I can only hope Pagan's strategy is "just to play DeLuca until Kennedy is fit and then he's straight out".... because if he's actually picking DeLuca because he thinks he's good player, then .... I mean... its hard to respect that

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Murphy can't be expected to play well every week... like this week. That's why you need experienced players in the side.

Fair call the other 2800 were poems