yep.

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Then whats the something blue campaing about then i think thats a smart concept.

The signing of Dom Bagnato isnt that working on rebranding the club and working on presentation of the players.

small steps but we slowly getting there.

Synbad - You know my opinions on Collo and the board

But surely anyone who can get the AFL to hand over 1.8 million a year for the up keep of your training facilities must be doing something right.

Or is the handout going to come at a cost

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BB - nobody is saying they are not doing some things right. However - 2 things stand out:

1) Lack of ability to communicate to members and the public. Just look at the mood after the meeting.

2) Pure focus on cost cutting and staff reduction. We have very little ressources in the critical area of membership, marketing and communication. Try to find out how many top end (top dollar paying) members we have recently lost! I was also told that we spend the least of AFL clubs in the player recruiting area. If there is one thing I learned after 25 years in business - then it is that when you are down you can not completely cost cut yourself out of trouble - you have to invest in marketing and R&D. The club is not.

They may gain control of PP.

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I assume you looked around the place - the majority of members would of been aged 60+ (with all due respect). The decor hasn't had an uplift since the 80's (pretty close to your 70's move reference "The Club").

Elliott warned everyone that he'd turn the place into a morgue. Can't have it both ways all the time.

Mikkey but dont we need money to make money..... we have a negative cashflow we have debt im sure once these things are sorted out then you will see the club be more innovative and start spending up...... but for now we need to get every right for that to happen and thats what the 5 year plan is all about

Once we are out of this financial situation we can spend more money on marketing and on the football department

81% of just under 600 votes. 91% of proxy votes were YES. Around 60% of the 150ish that attended the AGM voted NO.

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theres no quick fix...... we dont want a quick fix, i dont want promises that at the moment the board are not sure they can deliver on

they are being careful and have a plan in order for this to happen then once we are out of this financial whole im sure the club will move forward into the future

there are so many issues that the club needs to fix starting from the finances, debt, fines, poor facilities, poor list, decrease in membership, legal issues, a tarnished brand the list goes on and on.......

what im trying to say is its not an easy job and we all need to unite and support the people in place cause we need stability all this bitching and fighting needs to stop, we are fueling the media if we all unite and fight together we know the Carlton Football Club will re-emerge to the power it should be

there are ways about voicing your opinion like writing letters, emails, approachimng board members one on one and not brainwashing people on here with negative views

we all are passionate about this club and yes healthy debate is warranted and like all of you im frustrated but we cant let this get the better of us.

Don't get too hung up over the voting numbers. Not everyone present and eligible to vote did in fact vote "no". Add the proxies and presto the resolution is passed. The Board did accept that resolution will in future be separated rather that lumped together.

This is exactly the wrong attitude!! Yes, you have to be responsible on the cost side but you have to invest at the same time. Need to prioritise your cost but you have to find the money to grow revenue. In our current situation investment in marketing and communications (attracting members and retaining high end members) has a very quick payback!

If some of the numbers I hear are true - e.g. the reduction in Coterie members - investing in reatining them would make a big and immediate difference revenue wise.

The Board has to many accountants and "operators" - healthy business' have a balance between sales / marketing people who want to spend a lot of money on "ideas" and investment for growth and accountants who keep them honest. You need both.

Tell me - do you think it is right that we in our current situation trying to rebuild te team have reduced spending in the recruting department??

PS: Apologies - I can't spell today and too lazy to fix it...

i hear what u saying Mikkey, but we have got no ther choice mate...... we hav to bare the brunt of it to get it right, we dont want no half arse fix.

As for investing we have no money to invest, 7 million debt negative cashflow this is seriously hampering us.

As for cotterie members yeah that maybe an issue but i have been told that the board no longer want to turn to our well off supporters for hand outs, the club want to try get through the situation on its on with out getting any powerful backers involved.

Look at Joe Gutnick they chewed him up and spat him out. If someone going to bail the club out you can imagine what they want in return and i dont think thats the way to go.

Cotterie groups isn't about just taking hands outs from wealthy members. It's just a higher membership level, with greater benefits offered. The profits for the club are good, there aren't massive costs involved, and the returns are quick.

You reckon your brother is a big businessman.. i reckon youre taking the micky...
.. i believe that because i have had a taste of you and believe in genetics....

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Yeah yeah...... in future they will.... in future we will.... in future.. blah blah blah.. that was done with intent.!

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Synbad you can bark all you want but it aint going to make any difference buddy.... like it or not this board is in power and have my support its just unfortunate you have brainwashed some with ur negative views on here and your shit is slowly rubbing off on some

leave it to beaver!

sure Synners has brainwashed me... help..... ... that chinese water torture he uses really did it in the end....

Seriously BB - don't claim that everybody who has a different view is brainwashed or stupid. I find this insulting - and BTW I was at the AGM and have a first hand impression of what is going on. What about you??

go board!!!!!!!!!!!

Exactly mikkey. Please don't insult our intelligence by saying that we've been brainwashed! I think it's great that you feel so passionate towards the board but it doesn't mean that those opposed to you are less worthy of an opinion. I know that I disagree with you on just about everything but it's not personal, it's just how it is.

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you know how you reckon you couldnt make the AGm cos you seeing clients??


Are you a hooker???

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