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Madly searching for reports on the match......

2 weeks to go!!

Great get Unc.

Regards Cazzesman

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Why cant Waite play at CHB sometimes ????

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Waite would need to go back to the bullies for a learning period if he is to play back - you see that last quarter against geelong? He doesn;t position himself at all well as a backman. I have no doubt he could learn it, but not in the firsts - you guys would want Pagan's blood if he shot the kid's confidence by playing him back and wathcing him get turned inside out week after week, goal after goal.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

In fact a position where Waite can come streaming out of defence with some run would suit Waite.
I wouldnt want his blood if Waite played at CHB.. id want his blood is he played at FB....
Why would he have to learn to play in the ressies???

Were not going to make the finals you know....

We want development and a team that will be strong enough to be challenging for a top 4 spot in 4 years..

Thats what we should be aiming at today.. not winning the odd game of footy today

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he'd need to learn in the ressie because four weeks at CHB against quality and his confidence would be shot. Then what? Oh hell then just blame Pagan.

I've thought of waite as a defender for a while but watching him against geelong he really had no and i mean no idea he'd be slaughtered.

yes we are going nowhere this season (in terms of finals, not in terms of development) but i thought you were interested in development of the kids - Waite is a forward, play him there. If you wish to make him a defender he will need some serious coaching, i suggest the AFL seniors is not the place for him to try and learn how to defend (basic skills not honing existing skills).

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

He'd get murdered in the backline. I reckon he is suited to up forward or on the wing

I remember watching Waite in defense playing on Pavlich against Freo last year. It wasn't pretty. He kept finding himself under the ball and being beaten body on body.

Sorry Danny for once Im with Sydbad. Waite has the build and athletism
to play CHB.

Why cant we just say play there, stay with him, hit him hard if he goes near the ball (no easy possesions), and make him look stupid by clearing the ball.

We dont need to put him on a Tredrae of J Brown if your worried about his confience, just put him on some of the weaker CHFs.

He has the speed, aggression and long arms - he should at least be tried there

so, for the nedd? Actually why? But anyway, Waite as a CHB - but only on the weaker ones.

I am not saying do not turn him into a CHB - I am saying if that is the plan play him in the bullants at CHB and teach him the basic skills he'll need because at the moment he has none of them. he'll get murdered and i do not mean by the Treadrea's I mean by any sort of forward (ie a Playfair, an Ottens, a Miller) who knows how to run him under the ball, to play goal side, to push off, to not over commit etc... Waite is a runner, shit play him HBF if you must, or even BP on talls while he learns, not CHB. Not until we teach him the basics.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Agree with Danny here, don't think Waite has the smarts to play down back - he may have bulked up but when you compare him with Pavlich/Brown/Tredrea he is tiny - the way he overcommitted in the game against Geelong highlighted his lack of ability as a defender

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I say make him a midfielder.

Synbad you want development then why bitch about walks playing a tagging role and learning the trade from half back??????? isn't that developing????????

Whaite is one player that we have that can actually turn a game on its head if he could only play 4 consistent quaters. I agree that he should be used in the midfield however he would have to increase his fitness levels to play midfield.

I don't believe we should play Waite or Whitnall down back as this is only playing into the hands of the opposition. You don't see Sheedy playing Llyod or Malthouse playing Rocca or Tarrant down back. We have had 4 years to find a geniune tall backman and yet we still have to plug holes down back with Waite and Whitnall who along with Fev, Fisher, Deluca and Setanta could really cause the opposition some headaches with matchups.

There is no use been negative all the time as all this does is create a mind set of negativity instead of creativity.

Well I think our future CHB/FB options will be:

Flint, Livo, Thornton, Hartlett, Bower with Edwards pinch hitting.

Wouldn't surprise me if Kennedy was tried at CHB

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Cant see Waite making it as a CHB.Not physical enough.Hartlett seems to be the ideal type for that position.But he still has a lot to prove.Lacks the anticipation and to me,is not a good reader of the play.Having said that,i have a gut feeling he could eventually be our best bet at CHB.Love others thoughts on Hartlett coz i am a bit puzzled by this guy.Very hard player to sum up............I always worry about blokes who are poor readers of play.Very few of them seem to kick on.Kouta was woefull in this regard in his early days but who turned it around in a big way.Apart from Kouta,i cant recall any player on our list who overcame this deficencie and came good.Any answers? Agro,Frank,Danny ?

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can't think of a carlton one Mick but what about that Nth bloke, mccarthy, i thought he didn;t know how to get near a ball but in the end he turned out to be a fair sort of defender.

On Hartlett its a bother you say that, i just haven't seen enough of him but Synners expresses the same concern.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

I thought he read the play well and ran away with the ball from his opponent a few times when I got to watch him. Loves to run and throw out a linking handball like SOS used to.

I'm not saying he plays like SOS, but he is certainly more than your old dour FB. FB is where I'd want to see him, not CHB.