That’s why I would like a first time coach that’s been an assistant

Will Setterfield anyone

keogh, do you truly believe Greg Williams will have meaningful input into the coach selection, or would you agree with me that it's a "pat on the head", as another poster so neatly put it?

You would hope so
The thing is he did forget to ring Parkin last time. He also had the biggest say of all the board members in ticking off Voss’ appointment.
Board members arnt meant to be paid but he is because he is a consultant to the board
Yet he is one of the 8 board of directors so that’s not right
This comes back to legends of the club who were great players therefore that qualifies them for important jobs within the organization
Sticks how did he go as President
How did SOS go as a List Manager and isn’t it great that now he is @#$%&! up the Saints with his good buddy Ross Lyon
It’s public knowledge Diesel has post playing trauma concussion issues that effects his memory
So why is in such an important position
Anyway if the board have no say in the new coach it’s a first for The Bluebaggers

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I don’t know, will he?

Surely Brad Scott is the one with the most current experience?

How so? Wouldn’t we have had to pay that money anyway for him to coach out this season until the end of his contract? We won’t employ a new coach until next season anyway so we won’t be double paying anyone.

My info is that after Voss was interviewed it was Diesel who wanted him as coach and the board agreed
Kingsley hadn’t been interviewed. After the interview process was completed they offered Kingsley an assistants role which he clearly declined
Board members are not meant to be paid but Diesel insisted he got paid so they created a position for him as a consultant to the board
That to me is a conflict of interest
It’s common knowledge he has a memory like Swiss cheese
My mail is the Parkin thing happened

As John Anderson said on 3 AW where is the accountability of board members who
tick off coaching appointments contract extensions then sack the coach and waste half a million dollars of soft cap money

I've tried to hold my tongue on this like a lot of shit that keogh posts but

what do you know about William's memory? I assume you are talking memory impairment due to concussion - how impaired. Can he remember details from long ago but forgets things he has just been told or does he remember things he has just been told but cannot remember what happened seven years ago?

Please give me details of what Greg William is currently (lets just go with this financial year) being paid by the board and what his consultation is.

Are you suggesting that Greg Williams, alone, is responsible for the appointment of Voss? Or that he overrruled another option like Kingsely when the group were set to appoint Kingsley? If so how do you know this to be true - or are you relying on media - you now the same media that you said didn't report the truth, only things that served their (or the AFl's) self interest?

As to Sticks, that is just stupid. Sticks became president because no one else at the time would put their hand up and the club was absolutely broke and had considered tossing in the keys to the joint. (This from Sticks himself, so maybe he was bullshitting or maybe you just take him at face value). Was he a great president - no but he did keep us going until slowly the presidents got better (imo and imo we still have a ways to go but it is getting better)...but of course you want to tar all presidents, all boards, all people at carlton with the same brush and anyone who disagrees just has their headinthesandbinkersonwearingrosecolouredglasses etc etc etc

oh and just on Setterfield can I just toss back at you Florent and Heywood (seems you've got deathly quiet about those two recently).

as i said I try to ignore you Keogh cos all you do it snipe and gossip and try to claim some sort of moral high ground but with the Williams thing I just think if you're going to drag someone's name down you should at least back up the gossip with facts - that proof (I would have thought going by past posts of yours) cannot be the newspapers.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Again. How so? Wouldn’t we have had to pay that money anyway for him to coach out this season until the end of his contract? We won’t employ a new coach until next season anyway so we won’t be double paying anyone.

Edit: and if we hadn’t extended his contract then we would have had to pay a different coach anyway.

I’m going on the mail I have
Take it or leave it
I have said the board is the problem
8 sack coaches
7 CEOs in 25 years
What’s the one constant

I’ll throw this one back to you
What’s Greg Williams qualifications to be in his position
Fell into a lucrative printing contract with KMart when sitting next to a lady on a plane
In relation to the 2 Sydney blokes
Haywood has pulled his finger out
He had to because he was diabolical
Maybe he hated Voss too
As for Florent
Who would you rather give the ball to at Half Back
Dannyboy
Ollie or Billy Wilson
He is 9 th for turnovers overall and 13 th for turnover average
So his disposal is below average
He ain’t damaging enough but he tries hard
Haywood has been excellent
But hey mate you don’t seem to understand wher I am coming from here
We have a core of excellent youngsters for the first time since I can remember
And my memory is better than Diesel
The club has stuffed every coaching appointment this century
Surely we can agree on that
So let’s get this one right
We are due
I like Wright and Davies on the selection panel
Don’t like Priestley on there because he was part of ticking off Vosss appointment
Now on selection panel
And Simmo
Well he was employed as a consultant to Voss that didn’t work
He hasn’t ruled out coaching again
Despite being a premiership coach 8 years ago he oversaw the West Coast Eagles going down the dunny
And personally I just don’t like the guy
Bit shifty but that’s just a personal view

I agree about Diesel getting paid by the club. 13 years ago, he told the world he has degenerative brain disease.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/degene ... e9bca43652

It is not only strange that he sits on the board, but that he is paid to do so.

I don't have a problem with Priestley being on the coaching panel.
But, that comes with responsibility.
If it's a poor hire in 2-3 years time, he needs to justify why he should be trusted to stay as Prez or on the board.

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Actually I’ll retract
We didn’t stuff Rattens appointment
He was sacked because those “ families “ we know about got involved
To be fair to Sticks and Adrian Gleeson who was on the board at the time too that decision was taken out of their hands
And we have had 6 head coaches since

Mate I’m a big believer that a coach should never have their contract extended by more than a couple of years
Clearly Voss was not flexible
Just because we made a Preliminary Final doesn’t mean you extend it by 2 more.
A lot can change at AFL level in that time.
It’s a different game now than 2023

Please explain the yellow bits, I'm not following you

Voss had his contract extended in Feb 24 till the end of 26
He was contracted till the end of 24
The board should of not ticked off the contract extension by a further 2 years
We would of not had that contract extended at the end of 24 by 2 years given how he coached in at Elimination Final
He may have been sacked anyway
The half a million is paid to a guy no longer there
Roughly that
What’s half of 800000
Yeah 400000
As I said before get a first time coach who has been
In the system as an assistant
Second time coaches have a bad record
Pay them 400000 for 3 years
They need time to settle in and tinker
Don’t extend their contract until the three years is up
And don’t pay a Longmire or Hinkley close to a million
Save yourself 600000
That money can be put to finding talent in the lower leagues and player development which we all should agree has been shit at Carlton

Yes.
Agreed he would be paid out. As normally is the case, goes towards soft cap.
Fraser will be paid a bonus, and will be paid a bonus on top of his assistant coach rolw. As normal, that goes towards the soft cap.
Obviously we have space in the Soft Salary cap to pay Fraser's bonus..

No harm done. Why? Is someone suggesting something untoward?

We move Voss on, and we move on a as a club.

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Good point he made too.

Since Anderson made this comment, Carlton haven't extended any coach contract, nor sacked a coach.

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FRASER'S FIVE BIG BLUES CHANGES
THESE are the five big changes Carlton has made under Josh Fraser.

The first is in game style – the Blues have taken control of the ball considerably more under interim coach Fraser, with Champion Data ranking Carlton No.1 for time in possession over the past three weeks and taking more uncontested marks than any team in this period. They were ranked 14th for time in possession and 13th for uncontested marks under Michael Voss this year.

Secondly, the Blues have left the corridor footy and are opting for the boundary line to set up their plan. This has seen them be less predictable with their ball movement and they have increased their 45-degree kick percentage, making them move the ball with purpose. Their ball movement has improved from their defensive half and they are transitioning and scoring more from that part of the ground.

The third priority for the Blues has been Fraser not taking his eye off Carlton's strengths. Their stoppage game has always been seen as the central part of the Blues' hopes, but it has lifted again and in Friday's win over Geelong they scored 49 points from clearances – the most the Cats have conceded this season. Defensively, they are conceding almost four fewer goals per game than the first nine rounds of the season and their scoring efficiency from forward-50 entries has also spiked.

The next change has been moving the magnets and experimenting. Will Hayward has moved to the wing and played more than half of his game time in that role, up from 96 per cent of his time forward under Voss. Harry McKay has played 30 per cent in the ruck, becoming the Blues' No.2 in that position. He barely played there under Voss (three per cent).

Jagga Smith has gone up in midfield time in the past three weeks (59 per cent to 76) and Ben Ainsworth has also been sent in the centre bounce 24.5 per cent of the time, a real change from his previous 97 per cent as a forward.

The fifth change has been some newer faces thrown in, with Jack Ison making his debut in the game that followed Voss' sacking and adding some class, and Billy Wilson also returning to the side. Flynn Young was also busy on Friday night with two goals.

Carlton can heap more pain on a wounded Essendon** next week, with its three games after that (following its round14 bye) against Greater Western Sydney, West Coast and Richmond, giving it a sneaky chance of playing in a wildcard game.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1531805/cal ... -departing

Just confirming what most of us have seen and raised.