HickMOTT has been gone a long time but still very much involved in AFL footy.

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Given the history of the group, it wouldn’t be totally out of the question to include the players on the selection panel.

If we’re talking about the choice between them & the board, I know which group I’d choose.

Don’t get me wrong, I think they’re mutinous cauliflower, but it’s because they’re mutinous cauliflower - and I’m dog flower tired of their shit, that it makes total sense to me.

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No. No. No!

You cannot do or in this case play a certain way, if deep down you know it’s not working.
The guys busted a gut to play the way our coach wanted but by the third or fourth quarters they had nothing more to give.
The game results were all there for everyone to see and understand. We were being over run by every team for a reason!!

Bullshit, it was all mental fragility if the playing group, Jagga, Harry, Fraser have all admitted that we’re still playing the Voss game plan. The only difference is the players have been mentally freed up to execute better for longer periods.

Look at the third quarter, 1.4 yet we totally dominated the opposition. We do that against any half switched on side and the result will be the same as it was while Voss was coaching. From nine goals straight in the second we kicked 1.8.

The guys were mentally strong and free enough to win while playing Voss’s game plan this time. Hopefully Fraser and the new coach can address the mental fragility when the pressure is on again.

The playing list isn’t that bad and Voss did adjust his game plan, it was the playing group that couldn’t cope with the pressure. The proof is plain for everyone to see now.

We reverted to the bomb, bomb, bomb in the 3rd qtr and it could've cost us on another day.
There will be occasions when the opposition will force that on us, it happens to every club, but we need to learn not to panic in those situations and try and control the game our way.

It's 4.5 years of bomb, bomb, bomb (plan A type of guy) mentality that has hindered this current rebuild.
It will take time to weed that out of our psyche.

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The reversion to that style of play was bizarre.

I think I commented in the match day thread that it looked like Voss had climbed back into the coach’s box.

The big question is why did it happen?

Buggered if I know.

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There could be a few reasons besides mental fragility (not that I am discounting that) loss of Carroll mean loss one one of our best kicks, a runner and heavier rotations for other runners. Pitto seems to tire in second halves so the game gets messier for us.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Whilst we are playing the Voss contested style of footy, Laird on the footy show said we are also playing scoring from turnovers. We are positioning ourselves better at the contest. I’m just relaying what someone who knows more than me said.

Looked like Port upped the pressure in the 3rd... it was expected after the spray they copped from Carr in the change rooms at half time.

We reverted to panic stations and bombed because that's what we have done for so long.
All teams will bomb at stages but for us it will be challenge to minimise that, trust your team mates and get the game back on your terms... and preferably not take an entire qtr.

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I've only watched the first half - will get to the second this evening - but the fact we kept them scoreless for 15 minutes of Q3 after the spray/pressure increase is a good sign. Will be interesting to see how that was achieved (from what the small screen shows me).

I was told yesterday not to rule out Craig Mccrae coaching us next season. He doesn't get along with Craig Kelly

Who does ?

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Urgh.

Damn. Mentally preparing that I might have to pretend to like this bloke.

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We are on our way back...

Can understand not getting along with CK.

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Total bullshit. Stats are showing we are playing differently and I highlighted that in the post thread.
Mentally weak - yes, the scares are still there lurking, but it has all to do with the way they were managed and coached.
Unfortunately, we will lose again, so don't panic and feel you won't get another go at the players.
As for the players being positive about Voss - just goes to show they are a nice bunch.

Utter bullshit, we are now executing the changes Voss wanted the players to evolve too BECAUSE they are mentally free now, they were just too mentally weak to execute consistently before. They haven’t changed the way they wanted to play, they just started executing what they’d already practised. You can’t seriously believe that an entire system of play can be fundamentally changed in a few days? If that was the case then teams could change coaches after every single loss, but footy doesn’t work like that does it? You need to practise systems for months before you learn how to properly execute.

You're wasting your time Sinners, he sees things no one else can...........like dead people.
For the record you are 100% spot on, Fraser has said this 2 weeks in a row now, so too the players and anyone else with an ounce of common sense.
Not sure who it was in the media, but they said the next coach will need to address our mental weakness in their interviews and how they will go about it.

Indeed, we don’t need a new coach, we need a psychologist as coach.