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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2026 8:31 pm 
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Hey I've ventured back, BF too much of an "in crowd", you either agree with a couple of posters and one Mod in particular or you get banned, or sent to the naughty corner. Please tell me it's still different here!?!
Cochrane/Walker Cup is Gold, those bloody tigers still hanging around and I'm yet to understand what the team's best move is to secure him, if you've seen the kid in the last couple of weeks (as my lad and I have live) this kid is generational. Has definate Brownlow/Normie/BF/AA stamped all over him!!


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2026 8:36 pm 
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BallaratBagger wrote:
Hey I've ventured back, BF too much of an "in crowd", you either agree with a couple of posters and one Mod in particular or you get banned, or sent to the naughty corner. Please tell me it's still different here!?!
Cochrane/Walker Cup is Gold, those bloody tigers still hanging around and I'm yet to understand what the team's best move is to secure him, if you've seen the kid in the last couple of weeks (as my lad and I have live) this kid is generational. Has definate Brownlow/Normie/BF/AA stamped all over him!!


That's it. You don't belong here.

In here we talk about passing on such players with disposal as we have enough of them. Only perfect kickers please. :razz:

Oh - welcome back. :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2026 8:45 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
BallaratBagger wrote:
Hey I've ventured back, BF too much of an "in crowd", you either agree with a couple of posters and one Mod in particular or you get banned, or sent to the naughty corner. Please tell me it's still different here!?!
Cochrane/Walker Cup is Gold, those bloody tigers still hanging around and I'm yet to understand what the team's best move is to secure him, if you've seen the kid in the last couple of weeks (as my lad and I have live) this kid is generational. Has definate Brownlow/Normie/BF/AA stamped all over him!!


That's it. You don't belong here.

In here we talk about passing on such players with disposal as we have enough of them. Only perfect kickers please. :razz:

Oh - welcome back. :lol:

Oh Hi Surrey! Responding to you on BF got me banned for a fortnight! Do you wield that power here as well?? How lightly do I tread?


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2026 8:46 pm 
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Hey I've ventured back, BF too much of an "in crowd", you either agree with a couple of posters and one Mod in particular or you get banned, or sent to the naughty corner. Please tell me it's still different here!?!
Cochrane/Walker Cup is Gold, those bloody tigers still hanging around and I'm yet to understand what the team's best move is to secure him, if you've seen the kid in the last couple of weeks (as my lad and I have live) this kid is generational. Has definate Brownlow/Normie/BF/AA stamped all over him!!
Same reason I left BF!

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2026 8:57 pm 
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BallaratBagger wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
BallaratBagger wrote:
Hey I've ventured back, BF too much of an "in crowd", you either agree with a couple of posters and one Mod in particular or you get banned, or sent to the naughty corner. Please tell me it's still different here!?!
Cochrane/Walker Cup is Gold, those bloody tigers still hanging around and I'm yet to understand what the team's best move is to secure him, if you've seen the kid in the last couple of weeks (as my lad and I have live) this kid is generational. Has definate Brownlow/Normie/BF/AA stamped all over him!!


That's it. You don't belong here.

In here we talk about passing on such players with disposal as we have enough of them. Only perfect kickers please. :razz:

Oh - welcome back. :lol:

Oh Hi Surrey! Responding to you on BF got me banned for a fortnight! Do you wield that power here as well?? How lightly do I tread?


What? Who the hell did you post as? I never felt I had such power anywhere!!! :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2026 8:57 pm 
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TAFKA BamBam7 wrote:
BallaratBagger wrote:
Hey I've ventured back, BF too much of an "in crowd", you either agree with a couple of posters and one Mod in particular or you get banned, or sent to the naughty corner. Please tell me it's still different here!?!
Cochrane/Walker Cup is Gold, those bloody tigers still hanging around and I'm yet to understand what the team's best move is to secure him, if you've seen the kid in the last couple of weeks (as my lad and I have live) this kid is generational. Has definate Brownlow/Normie/BF/AA stamped all over him!!
Same reason I left BF!

You're safe here. :P


What - I got you banned as well? :razz: :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2026 10:31 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
TAFKA BamBam7 wrote:
BallaratBagger wrote:
Hey I've ventured back, BF too much of an "in crowd", you either agree with a couple of posters and one Mod in particular or you get banned, or sent to the naughty corner. Please tell me it's still different here!?!
Cochrane/Walker Cup is Gold, those bloody tigers still hanging around and I'm yet to understand what the team's best move is to secure him, if you've seen the kid in the last couple of weeks (as my lad and I have live) this kid is generational. Has definate Brownlow/Normie/BF/AA stamped all over him!!
Same reason I left BF!

You're safe here. :P


What - I got you banned as well? :razz: :lol:
Haha, I didn't actually get banned, I'd just had enough and left.

Way too many angry people over there. The vibe here is much better.

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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2026 10:34 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2026 10:57 pm 
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I’m worried about Georgiades and Weitering match up.

Weitering is out of sorts.

Do you consider double teaming him? Lewis Young was great in the VFL but he’s not the answer?


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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2026 2:34 am 
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I think Kemp & McGovern is one too many.

I like Kemp, but right now he’s just the guy that’s sometimes at the end of an all-too-obvious forward chain. Easily defended.

That’s not to say that Brackets is a slippery cauliflower, but what he can do is get a clean shot off from 40-60.

Wilbur, Moir, Ison, Brackets, Flynn Young & Ainsworth. Mobility is one thing, but it’s their scoring range that helps them create & slip into pockets of space. If only Kemp could kick…

I’m not real sure of Byrne’s range, but I know that none of Frankie, Motlop or Fogarty need defending beyond 40m.

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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2026 9:29 am 
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As a senior member of the Toxic Optimists I am looking forward to the "sugar hit" from this game.

And nine of the season's remainder.

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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2026 10:18 am 
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Traveller86 wrote:
I’m worried about Georgiades and Weitering match up.

Weitering is out of sorts.

Do you consider double teaming him? Lewis Young was great in the VFL but he’s not the answer?


I think Weitering has been good last 2 weeks compared to his first 7 games. Sure he can improve, but we need him where he serves our team best to get the most out of him. He has been helping out further upfield, following his opponent and sometimes coming off his line, maybe to prove to everyone he is a team player. I think its been a noticeable improvement.

Classic FBs have strength and ability to spoil. Its rare a FB, and think of the best, Collins, Andrews, Barrass...even they can't stop a leading forward sprinting out of the blocks into a leading lane with the team mate upfield under no pressure.

It was really noticeable last week in the Cats Lions game, Andrews was taken away from the goals and there was no one to kill the ball when it was within 30m of the goals. That's where Weitering is at his best. He hasn't got the pace or mobility to compete further upfield, hence team defense is vital to keep Georgiadis under control, and pointless having Weitering follow him as his roams beyond the 50m arc.

A coordinated, well planned hand over from FB to a defender further upfield must be precise. The hand over must be to a tall defender who can reach the high ball and spoil the mark. We have Haynes or Dean for that.

Lewis Young is the quickest KPD we have, but not quick enough to stick with a proactive lead. I have to say I havent seen enough of Dean, but he really showed a good set of wheels last week. Maybe its him.

Midfield has to keep the heat on their opponents and not let them stream forward without pressure, and blocking the leading lane should be the norm during play, albeit impossible from CB with the 666 rule.

Team defense is the answer, and that starts in the midfield.

Do we have an advantage in the ruck like we did (for the first time this year) against the Dogs without English? This week Pitto and Harry are up against Street na Vincentini. Sweet is 206cm. Think Warnock. That's him. I thought he did well against Witts last week. He's in good ruck form. Vincentini is the chop out ruck. He's the same height as Harry and Pitto.

Mids have to make sure Butters, Dew, Burgoyne Wines and Horne-Francis dont get free reign. Butters is in great form.

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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2026 10:45 am 
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I think Kemp & McGovern is one too many.

I like Kemp, but right now he’s just the guy that’s sometimes at the end of an all-too-obvious forward chain. Easily defended.

That’s not to say that Brackets is a slippery cauliflower, but what he can do is get a clean shot off from 40-60.

Wilbur, Moir, Ison, Brackets, Flynn Young & Ainsworth. Mobility is one thing, but it’s their scoring range that helps them create & slip into pockets of space. If only Kemp could kick…

I’m not real sure of Byrne’s range, but I know that none of Frankie, Motlop or Fogarty need defending beyond 40m.


Fair enough, but I'll give a different opinion.

Byrne has kicked goals from 50m. Evans has kicked plenty from 50m. How could you forget his purple patch of games in 2025? He hasn't been kicking straight, ditto Kemp, and FYI ditto Flynn Young. Yep dead eye Young has been missing easy shots at goal too in his last 2 games.

I really liked Derksen's game against the Scrays, but he was played in the backline this week. Killed it the air. The week before he killed it playing FF kicking a bag (albeit against weak opposition), took half a dozen marks. What I like about Derksen is he does take a good grab AND kicks straight at goal, and thought he may push out Kemp last week, whose kicking for goal has failed him, his team, and his coach (aka Coach killer). So, I wouldn't mind seeing Derksen in and send a message to Kemp: we like your competitiveness in the air and on the ground, but your kicking for goal, needs work....in the VFL.

I think Gov had an ordinary game on Saturday, but he was the 190cm FF for the 40-45 minutes Harry was in the ruck. I don't think Kemp and Gov are KPD. Sure they are mobile but if its not a free flowing game, with open spaces and time, which it rarely is these days, they wont be leading to mark much. I am a fan of 2 KPF's, especially if one is thrown into the ruck. Its obvious we need at least one tall target in a KPF role when Harry is in the ruck.

Flynn Young is a lead up forward, not a crumber, unless Ive missed something. I find he is easy pushed off the ball, and if you have Moir with Gov and Young, who is going to crumb with Evans out of the forward line and Ainsworth spending 90% GT in the midfield area? It aint going to be Young. Young imo and I've said this before, reminds me of a shorter version of Brad Pearce with his hard assertive leading. Sounds nice, but Young hasn't played for two weeks and the 2 prior games he did play, he was quiet. I don't see reward for selection reflecting his current form. Moir will provide a leading target too.

I like the idea of holding back Moir and make him hungry. He has shown good signs in last 2 VFL games in a row, and he's playing a HHF role which is getting him into the game. I have no problem playing Moir and Ison together, especially with Ison's confidence up, and Moir kicking goals and getting touches last 2 weeks.

Now its obvious its much too early to tank, and playing to win, we can win this as long as we don't let Sweet dominate the ruck....and we kick straight for goal.

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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2026 10:47 am 
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windy wrote:
As a senior member of the Toxic Optimists I am looking forward to the "sugar hit" from this game.

And nine of the season's remainder.

:fight:


:lol: Good toxic

Win this and we might go into the Cats game with our tails up, or at least turn their tails down.

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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2026 10:49 am 
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Carlton by 22 points.

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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2026 10:53 am 
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Hey I've ventured back, BF too much of an "in crowd", you either agree with a couple of posters and one Mod in particular or you get banned, or sent to the naughty corner. Please tell me it's still different here!?!
Cochrane/Walker Cup is Gold, those bloody tigers still hanging around and I'm yet to understand what the team's best move is to secure him, if you've seen the kid in the last couple of weeks (as my lad and I have live) this kid is generational. Has definate Brownlow/Normie/BF/AA stamped all over him!!


Haha. Carlton fans with egos? Nahhhh.

We are all mad, rusted on Bluebaggers, regardless of site. We are all the same. A bad experience will leave a bitter taste but we are all capable of stepping on someone's toes. It happens here, but we sort things out.

No fear of alienation here. braithy and I give each other a bit of a regular shake, and a shit stir, but behind the scenes we are Blue Brothers, and we know it.

Cochrane-Walker Cup :grin:

I was hoping for a Van Hatton Cup, but I think he's going to fill Tigers or Effendopes hole in the ruck; something we could do with.

Watching the Dreamtime game is going to make me sick. I doubt I will watch the whole game.

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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2026 10:56 am 
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CK95 wrote:
Carlton by 22 points.



That's the spirit of Positivo tossocita CK :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2026 10:59 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
BallaratBagger wrote:
Hey I've ventured back, BF too much of an "in crowd", you either agree with a couple of posters and one Mod in particular or you get banned, or sent to the naughty corner. Please tell me it's still different here!?!
Cochrane/Walker Cup is Gold, those bloody tigers still hanging around and I'm yet to understand what the team's best move is to secure him, if you've seen the kid in the last couple of weeks (as my lad and I have live) this kid is generational. Has definate Brownlow/Normie/BF/AA stamped all over him!!


That's it. You don't belong here.

In here we talk about passing on such players with disposal as we have enough of them. Only perfect kickers please. :razz:

Oh - welcome back. :lol:

Oh Hi Surrey! Responding to you on BF got me banned for a fortnight! Do you wield that power here as well?? How lightly do I tread?


Surrey will let you know. You just have to take it on the chin, pick yourself up off the canvas, and give as good as you get.

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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2026 2:38 pm 
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For whatever reason I have barely seen Port play at all this season... so I don't really know how they're going.

I'd lean toward no changes, unless required due to injury. But I'd also happily pack anyone who's even a bit sore away for the week and reward the blokes playing decent footy in the VFL.


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PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2026 5:33 pm 
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Crusader wrote:
I think Kemp & McGovern is one too many.

I like Kemp, but right now he’s just the guy that’s sometimes at the end of an all-too-obvious forward chain. Easily defended.

That’s not to say that Brackets is a slippery cauliflower, but what he can do is get a clean shot off from 40-60.

Wilbur, Moir, Ison, Brackets, Flynn Young & Ainsworth. Mobility is one thing, but it’s their scoring range that helps them create & slip into pockets of space. If only Kemp could kick…

I’m not real sure of Byrne’s range, but I know that none of Frankie, Motlop or Fogarty need defending beyond 40m.
Are you sure about Frankie?

I could've sworn I've seen him bomb one from outside 50.

Maybe I'm thinking of Jack Martin?

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