And now Austin has gone also

Voss made the comment in his interview that 'a few sliding doors moments didn't go our way'. I wonder what he was specifically referring to - maybe our bad luck with injuries in the 2nd half of 2024?

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At a guess I would assume he meant this season and the missed shots on goal.
i.e. Kemps 5 misses on the weekend.

You know this is total rubbish, right?
If our set ups were so bad we would've been behind in every game we played from the start.

his fate was sealed last season. he was never getting out of this one.

Spot on.

I don't disagree.
He was set up for failure unfortunately.
New game plan.
New coaches.
New players.
And coaching for his career.
As Lyon on 360 said, set up in quick sand.
I still think it was worth a shot though, hopefully now we can weed out all the players that are not right for the modern game also.
Like Lyon said also, we have failed to adjust our list to the quick changing game of transition and elite foot skills.

Unlike your ‘vibe’ of what Cripps and Weitering said and feel.

I’ve quoted a statement from the press conference and made the statement it was said multiple times by our management.
Please review the press conference if you prefer.
I also factually prove that media are highlighting our structures and discussing their incompetence - again last night!

So you can dismiss in your immature childish manner (maybe Bondi might help you here), but you sir belong out of our club with Voss. That’s the only thing you seem to care about.

So Adios - I won’t be replying to you again, no matter how much you get wrong!!!

It’s the vibe.

The sliding doors moments are our missed opportunities, in particular, missed set shots at goal which would have won us games vs Melbourne, NM, Adel, Coll, and last week against brizzy. Admitedly, umpires havent been kind to Vossy's team.

We could be 5- 4, or 6-3 if we took our opportunities and sitting somewhere between 3rd and 9th.

With losses of games, come loss of confidence, energy and momentum.

We haven't seized the moments. Think of Charlie and Harry in front of goals last year = pathetic. This year Harry and Kempy = momentum killers. With kempy, it feels like we've stepped back into the Levi Casboult days. Is it worth having him in the team? Sometimes. Well sometimes is not good enough.

Even dead eye Evans misses shots on goal in every game he's played this year. If he's missing, his confidence is missing. Imagine what that does to players up the ground who have worked so hard to create that opportunity. Then the team goes into its shell in self preservation mode.

We have something to build on with this list.

SKILLS is a good start.

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I should have kept reading posts before replying to the question.

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SB was right. We got beaten up and shell shocked since that game.

Mentally weak players, and a lack of depth to cover injury. Our depth were undeveloped players, kids. What do you expect from kids? Kids play.

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He's gone.

He had his good points and he had his bad points.

David parkin admitted yesterday Vossy wasnt a good tactician, but he was everything else wanted in a coach. So why didnt we give him a tactician??????

His good points shone in the first halves, so he was sound from the outset, but failed to adjust to the counter measure the opposition made. That seems obvious.

Not sure what happened in the second half against Brizzy; we smashed them. Vossy's counter measures?

He's gone now. No point fighting over Vossy. Sayers gone. Austin gone.

Back to Pregame thread, List Management thread, Game thread, Post game Thread, New Coach Thread, MVP thread, Ruck debate thread Best 23 2026 thread, Assistant Coaches thread, reserves thread, and the legendary Players Thread Mrs Caz resuscitated.

Oh yeah, I know keogh is going to remind me, the Board is still there. No Board = No carlton. I will never forget when Ian Collins nearly handed over the keys after the Penalties of 2002. We were broke, in debt to the AFL and puppets of the AFL to do as they please.

Thank god we had Board Members who made good decisions....well, thank god we had Richard and Jeannie Pratts financial clout to give us confidence to rebuild what we have today. I respect that, and glad I didnt lose my club.

I'm not saying for a minute we can't improve at Board Level, so I will add we need a Carlton Board thread too.

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Cazzeman wrote in another thread

and I agree.

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We did give him some tacticians. He just refused to listen.
Second half of Brisbane game, notice the moves - he gave up and called it quits and let others make changes.
It’s sad but to his credit, he went down his way and what he felt was right from beginning to end.

So much to dissect in the aftermath of Voss resigning.

Lets start on that - it was Voss who made the call. When u listen to various media sources, you would think it was the club that "parted ways". That isnt true, regardless, Voss seeking out Davies and or others just prior to the Brisbane game to feel the waters suggests Voss initiated it.

That to is a moot point for a number of reasons, but possibly the biggest flag is our President and literally one of the first things he said at the Press conference, "We wanted to[u] roll Vossy at the end of last year[/u]. pause. Then it was something along the lines of not having to apologies for allowing him to continue....

WOW - without even moderately unwrapping that statement further, that is a clear message Voss was being setup to fail.

The mish mash of Wrights semi justification around support - we provided x,y,z then we went to the draft to "refresh" or similar our list...... We all know how that has gone so far......

And now we hit potentially, another groundhog day moment - with the search for yet another ffing coach and still our list is a blithering mess..... Partly good was to also see Austin move on. But realistically, he should have been sacked some time ago and/or numerous other better managers considered to do the job. He was an epic fail.

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1. Your quote regarding the evolution of our game is not a sole admission of coaching failure. It is a reference of Voss not being able to progress the 'team' to transition football and if you you watched with both eyes open GW touched on several times the need for better players to be able to compete in this current game phase and going to the draft.
And you don't think it is a coincidence that Augusta is gone and now Austin is gone also on the same day.
'Transition' is code for rebuilding the list, surely even you can put 2 and 2 together on that.
Voss left for as a 'circuit breaker' for the team and to give the team no pressure until the end of season, as they term it 'suitable' runway as well as a bit of jumping before being pushed.
That speaks volumes of the bloke.
Let's see how many of our 44 listed, in your eyes 'A graders' are still here at end of season.
2. Did your media experts explain why our structures stood up for half a game and then didn't? Because if teams could work us so easily then why don't they do it from the 1st bounce?
3. Vibe? If you can't read body language, the idiosyncrasies of people or read between the lines, then I feel sorry for you.
4. 'Immature childish manner'? See highlighted text.

As for people like me at the club, well the people like you at the club are the reason we have been s$$%t for over 30 years.

The rubbish continues.
At least you are consistent if anything.

Set up for failure? I heard a snippet from Whately peddling that.
Voss is a big boy. He knew exactly what he was getting himself into.

As a hypothetical, what if the club was looking to move Voss on at the end of last year but he asked for an opportunity to do it "his way". Perhaps he thought he was constrained by Hansen controlling the strategies from the box.
So the club re-jigs the coaching group, Hansen is no longer senior assistant, new assistants and football manager are introduced, Voss controls the lines, collates the information and makes the strategic decisions. Wright agrees to honour the contract but Voss is under no illusion that if he wants responsibility, he takes full responsibility.
Would that be setting him up for failure or giving him the opportunity to prove himself?

Just a hypothetical of course but Voss has nothing to complain about. He had his chance, he knew the parameters and he agreed to proceed.
He could have chosen to walk away last year if he wanted to.

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