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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2026 9:37 am 
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Even with the poor result, I still preferred Voss over Lyon.

Best of luck Vossy.

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2026 9:45 am 
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I might be the only one, but I think that is a shame.

Would've liked to see Michael at least coach the year out, in charge of us winning 11 of the last 15 games after our bad start.

Good Luck MV


You're not alone in thinking it's a shame. I'd have preferred he stay till the end of the season while we start the recruitment process today (or earlier). But maybe that's not feasible in professional sport with all the alpha egos involved.

Not sure how I'd feel if Vossy had stayed and we'd won 11 of 15, presumably nabbing a wildcard! Feels like falling between two barstools. But at least it would mean positive momentum for the new coach, if we still had the steadfast resolve to appoint one.

I agree that 17P's projection is closer to the truth than we'd like to imagine :) Let's lock in the new coach early before we get silly ideas about the Fraser Express.

Also agreed with Braithy that the Collingwood parallels are there, as I mentioned earlier in the week. Might have expected Voss to stay a bit longer and keep us competitive without winning too many. Perhaps Fraser has a compelling blueprint for almost-greatness, we'll see.

Farewell Michael. You still have my sword.


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2026 10:19 am 
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Right decision. Sad that we had to ‘move on’ another coach.
Need to get this right and make the correct changes to build the right culture with the successful mentality.
Something we haven’t been good at for a very long time.


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2026 10:22 am 
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"RESINGED"?

Burnt again?

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Nuh , don't like it . Would have loved Vossy to see out the year . Thanks and good luck .

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2026 11:08 am 
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windy wrote:
I might be the only one, but I think that is a shame.

Would've liked to see Michael at least coach the year out, in charge of us winning 11 of the last 15 games after our bad start.

Good Luck MV


I feel a bit the same.

Gosh I really wanted him to succeed.


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2026 11:24 am 
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windy wrote:
"RESINGED"?

Burnt again?


:lol:

Just wanted to riff off the SAKCED meme, but your theory works well.

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2026 11:26 am 
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Odd that there's nothing official on the club website yet. Not even a confirmation that Vossy has resigned, and well have more details later.

Wondering if there will be a press conference?

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I hadnt heard the news and a Dons fan friend of mine (is he really a friend??) text me this morning to dust off my resume as I may get a call for the job.

I told him point blank the club would make a mistake to sack the coach. We have done that too many times for the same result, nothing....

Hardwick was about to be sacked for his poor performance at Richmond, and then boom along comes Dusty, Cotchin, Reiwoldt, Balta. Rance... Grimes, Prestia... Edawards Houli... so many names, and he now has three premierships in his pocket and is seen as some type of coaching guru.

The F*Wit at North the same, he had a string of A graders turn up and boom he is some sort of super coach.

Vossy has Cripps, and maybe JW, and Crippa, maybe Walshy, then Cripps. What I am saying is our talent pool is poor, we are bereft of high end talent. No manner of coaching gets you to premierships without a team of quality players.

Voss falls on his sword for a team which just isnt very good at football.


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2026 11:36 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
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My focus is on acquiring Van Hattem and Walker this year.

Not. Going. To. Happen.


Is there something better brewing, or, you dont think we will end up winning the spoon?

I was barracking for Effendopes vs GWS and Tigers vs Crows. They put up a good show.

Anything can happen ... you dont believe we are trying to end up 10th?

Oh, we’ll win the spoon. We just won’t be permitted to get two top 5 candidates through the door.

Whatever cleverness you think you can cook up with bids & slides & bonuses & deficits, trust me, it’s over.

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2026 12:02 pm 
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GW backed Vossy to see out his contract, and with that avoided the Carlton mantra of sacking contracted coaches.
Some liked the decision, some didn't. He had his reasons.

Like Cain Liddle, allowed SOS to see out his contract, GW made a similar decision at the end of 2025.
Regardless, it will always be seen as a sacking even if it wasn't.
I guess Carlton hoped the optics and perception of Carlton would change to a club who honoured contracts.

As expected Vossy was determined to turn our fortunes around to witness another 2023 like revival, but he would resign when told his contract wont be renewed end of year.

After the Saints loss, I believed, like me, GW and Davies made the decision to not renew Vossy's contract. I don't think they told Voss, but after that first half vs Brizzy, I'm sure Vossy could read the room.

One poster facetiously suggested Vossy told the players of his decision at half time, hence the out of character 2nd half response from the players. In that first half, we looked pedestrian, confused and playing without purpose; certainly not playing for the coach. Afyter Brizzy game, Vossy knew this season was a write off, as was his hope of retaining his job as Head Coach.

I've loved watching Vossy as the face of Carlton from day 1. That's what he's good at. A great player and a great orator, but sadly, not a great coach.

He has cleared the runway for the hunt of the next coach. A courageous and honourable decision given he would have left a lot of coin on the table, but he's a had a good drink after 5 years, and its time for progress, not repeating the same old game plan and "half" hearted efforts week in week out.

Now for the search for the best available coach to begin before Tassie gets there first.

Give kids blocks of games and give the next Coach a clear view of our playing list. The next coach just needs to see signs of AFL talent, and potential. We wont be making Finals. Spoon is likely whether we want it or not.

Lets go Baggers.

Good luck Vossy.

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2026 12:09 pm 
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I’m not feeling anything and for the past few weeks I could actually watch our games after not being able to for a few years - watching made me so nervous - the hope has left me so I’m blasé about what’s coming as it has never been about one person (the coach) and we haven’t looked to fix the other issues that we have. Rinse and repeat is our mantra.


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2026 12:25 pm 
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The great David Parkin was on SEN this morning. He said he was a part of the panel that chose Voss. Said Voss was the best candidate at the time, and they were confident they had the right person, but he had his flaws. Parko said Voss was a great people person and had a good management brain, but his tactical ability was not the best. We have seen that come true. Makes you wonder why the others got overlooked if they knew his tactical ability wasn't that good....

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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2026 12:35 pm 
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The_Cranium wrote:
Michael Voss resigns as Carlton coach - https://www.afl.com.au/news/1518249

Jumped before pushed it seems


I noticed a verbal slip in the post-game presser this weekend, when Voss was asked about his future as coach… almost posted it then, may as well now as its that last thing Voss ever said as Senior Coach of the team he grew up supporting.

Michael Voss, presser after Lions loss https://www.afl.com.au/video/1514923/full-post-match-r9-blues wrote:
“I don't coach for my job. I coach for building a culture… and hopefully by the time I leave here […] that we've got winning behaviours and understand clearly what that looks like. we clearly understand what that looks like when we meet them and we clearly understand that when we don't. And I coach to create an environment that enables that to happen. Often people will make it about your job but the reality is that I make it about something else. And that's what we've got to continue to reinforce within our own environment. And we've got to continue to to build that real positive energy within the place because there's a spirit within this group that keeps coming. But we've also got to learn that method of learning how to win and how to execute more often. Cheers. Thank-you.”


Voss has probably said "when I leave here" before but something about the way he said it left me wondering if he hadn't already been told the gig was up and it was weighing heavily on his mind. Looks like it probably was. I admire him having the guts to go rather than wait to be pushed, and have to sit through all the media speculation whenever the media got wind of the club talking to a potential replacement.

Overall I feel quite sad about it all, without any judgements about everything; so many missed opportunities. Hopefully people within the club learned some lessons and are better human beings out of all this. All the best to Vossy, nobody can doubt his conviction and effort in the job, just wasn't to be, and we did get so close in 2023. Going 5-0 up in the first quarter of a PF as coach is an honourable loss in my book, many couldn't do that in the last 27 years.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1518291/ana ... chael-voss


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2026 12:39 pm 
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bender wrote:
The great David Parkin was on SEN this morning. He said he was a part of the panel that chose Voss. Said Voss was the best candidate at the time, and they were confident they had the right person, but he had his flaws. Parko said Voss was a great people person and had a good management brain, but his tactical ability was not the best. We have seen that come true. Makes you wonder why the others got overlooked if they knew his tactical ability wasn't that good....

Graham Wright said nonsense when asked if Voss needed support in the tactics/strategy dept when taking on the new role. I guess we know GW talks PR bs too. Was pretty obviously his weakest suit, unless the breakdown in relationship with Charlie was on Voss rather than on an entitled full forward (hardly the first FF in the game with high expectations!).


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2026 12:50 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
Even with the poor result, I still preferred Voss over Lyon.

Best of luck Vossy.

Regards Cazzesman

Lyon provably would have squeezed out enough dour wins out of the group to stay in the job, but never to inspire. And we'd have had to listen to the guy for five-eight years. no thanks.


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2026 12:52 pm 
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Here we go, club email…

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Today, we are able to confirm with you, Liam, that Michael Voss has stepped away from his role as AFL Senior Coach of the Carlton Football Club.

A selfless leader throughout his tenure, we came to a mutual agreement with Michael, after he expressed a wish to provide the football club with clear air to progress in 2026 and pursue a new coaching direction.

Michael departs IKON Park after nearly five seasons at the helm, during which time he led our club to consecutive finals appearances in 2023 and 2024, with 2023 culminating in a preliminary final.

Michael is a strong leader who has led our football club with great professionalism and a genuine commitment to Carlton.

Across five seasons, he has invested himself fully in the role and handled himself with impressive character throughout. The fact this decision is mutual reflects his selfless mindset and the Club thanks him sincerely for his contribution.

During the off-season, we were very intentional in implementing changes to refresh our football program, including appointing a new and highly credentialed General Manager of Football in Chris Davies, introducing six new coaches, and beginning a significant transformation of our playing list.

Those changes were made not only with the long-term interests of the football club front of mind, but also with the intent of ensuring Michael had strong support to achieve progress in the areas identified for improvement.

Ultimately, Liam, beyond results alone, we have not seen the intended evolution in our game, and to his credit, Michael acknowledges that now is the right time for the Club to move forward under the leadership of a new Senior Coach.

Our club will now commence that process, which will be led by Graham and Chris, two of the most respected football people in this industry, and we will go about this the right way to bring the best AFL Senior Coach we can to Carlton.

During the interim period, experienced Assistant Coach Josh Fraser will step into the role of Senior Coach for our AFL program.

We want to consistently contend and ultimately win premierships - that is why every single one of us is here - but to do that you have to be a realist about the gap we currently need to make up on the competition.

What you are seeing right now is a football club in genuine transition, and we are not going to shy away from that reality. Since last year, virtually every senior leadership position has changed - President, Chief Executive, General Manager of Football, six new coaches, a playing list undergoing significant regeneration, and now the Senior Coach.

These decisions are Carlton-first decisions - not easy ones, but the right ones for our long-term future.

No Carlton person is content with where we are at right now and we must demand better of ourselves. We will not be taking shortcuts, and we will be moving with real intent and purpose - attacking the draft again this year, marking three consecutive years of accessing elite young talent before Tasmania enters the competition, allowing us to continue building the next wave of talent through our AFL playing group.

Rest assured, Liam, we intend to maximise the remainder of the season to explore the possibilities within our playing list, and the desire to improve our on-field performance will absolutely remain.

Our football department, led by Chris, remains intent on progressing forward and with Josh Fraser taking the reins in the interim, along with our other experienced coaches, we look forward to seeing what this group can now produce with the clarity today’s announcement has now provided.

Thank you,


Robert Priestley
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Graham Wright
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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2026 12:57 pm 
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thanks for posting, Liam.

Blues president Rob Priestley, CEO Graham Wright and footy boss Chris Davies are scheduled to speak at Ikon Park to explain the decision to part ways with Voss, who will not speak at the press conference.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1518328/wat ... s-as-coach


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PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2026 1:08 pm 
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Crusader wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
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My focus is on acquiring Van Hattem and Walker this year.

Not. Going. To. Happen.


Is there something better brewing, or, you dont think we will end up winning the spoon?

I was barracking for Effendopes vs GWS and Tigers vs Crows. They put up a good show.

Anything can happen ... you dont believe we are trying to end up 10th?

Oh, we’ll win the spoon. We just won’t be permitted to get two top 5 candidates through the door.

Whatever cleverness you think you can cook up with bids & slides & bonuses & deficits, trust me, it’s over.


OK then, that's just your opinion. I don't think that's right, and I think you have missed something.

According to Jon Ralph, the AFL has decided (unofficially?) we will be out of contention for the end of round 1 compo pick, if we push our first pick out ourselves. Unless, ofcourse the AFL can't stop us from making our "natural" selection. ie pick the player every other team would have picked ahead of Walker with our first pick.

What are the Draft Gurus telling us? Sheehan and the others? What's the likely order of players picked in the Draft? Hint. Its not Walker.

The consensus all year has been Cochrane goes at first pick and Port will need to hand over 2 x1st round picks to get him (Bargain imo). As of last week, Van Hatton was touted the player most likely to contest Cochrane for the No 1 mantle, putting Walker as the "natural" or "popular", or "obvious" Pick 3....maybe 4, 5... Therefore, its "natural" for us to pick those two boys ahead of Walker.

ie we chose to take, the most popularly agreed pick 1, Cochrane, and Port matches it, effectively pushing our pick 1 to pick 2. Hence the compo pick.

Unfairly, Carlton "may" not be given the compensatory pick because we pushed our own pick one spot. But if Richmond deliberately pick Walker with first pick (knowing we have the two 1sts to match it), to receive the compensatory pick end of round 1, they are allowed. It is very obvious how this can be contested by Carlton, but that's another story.

Why would we pick Cochrane and McHatton before Walker?

The "natural/ popular/ obvious choice" for best player available with our "natural" pick 1 is there for the taking: Cochrane or Van Hatton.

In fact, we have 2 1st round picks use and pick McHatton and to match the bid on FS Walker at 3 or 4.... After all, it was another team who decided Walker was worth pick 3 or 4 ... . The AFL can't force the order of the best players to be selected at the Draft before the Draft; the clubs decide that "naturally" within the rules. Therefore, there's no "logical" reason to lose the compensatory end of round 1 compo pick, that we would use to make up the points shortfall of our second 1st pick (from Sydney) if we had it.

Furthermore, its in our interest to push Walker to pick 3+, because we will require less points to match the bid (than we would have if walker was pick 1 or 2) to make up the shortfall in points our 2nd 1st pick (Sydney pick 15-18) provides.

Whether we do receive the compo pick or not, we have NM's 2nd round pick to make up some of the shortfall of our Sydney 1st round pick.

The question isn't whether we can get McHatton and Walker, if we are wooden spooners, the question and debate is why should we lose our compensatory end of 1st round pick if our pick just because it was pushed back by us as a result of making the same "natural/ normal" decision any other team would make.

For us its worth contesting the AFL for the compensatory pick if we need our first 2nd round pick (from NM) to stay where it is, and not pushed back further back if we used some of its points to make up the shortfall of our Sydney round 1 pick for a pick 3.

Makes sense?

PS: Be mindful, and I'm sure Football Dept is, if Richmond end up last they will naturally bid for Cochrane, followed by Walker (or the other way around) to give themselves a compo pick, and to stick the birdie up at us for taking Walker, who was their train on NGA player. Effectively, we pay 2 x 1sts for Walker, and don't receive a compo pick, unless Richmond select Walker at Pick 2. They can pick walker 1 and Cochrane 2 to stick it right up us, effectively costing us 2 x 1sts and an end of 1st round compo pick, OR 3 fkn 1sts.

Fk that!

Hence I'm leaning to Tank as much as that hurts, because we will not find a Mobile ruck made for the new CB ruck rules for a long long time, and, our mids are lacking a mobile ruck at CB's where we are bleeding 5-6 goal bursts from the opposition because we can't compete in the CB ruck duel when Pitto fatigues.

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