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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2026 10:44 am 
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Ditch the zone defence.
A lot of teams are reverting to a man on man defensive structure and moving away from zones. The Saints largely employed it Saturday night.
The problem with zone defences is it gives players a chance to be lazy and unaccountable. And we've got more than our share who like to exploit it.
When is the last time you saw Weitering spoil a leading player outside defensive 50? He just doubles back and makes it someone else's problem. Compare that to a Harris Andrews or Sam Collins. It's their opponent and they want to beat them.

Same with our midfielders and rucks. Twice on Saturday Pittonet filled space whilst his opponent took an easy mark within 30m of goal.
We make it far too easy for our players to hide in the bludge zone. "I'll just stand here, you pick up my player". Our captain excels at it.
@#$%&! that. Let's see some accountability. And let's see some expectation and demand of standards within the playing group. If Cripps tries to take on 3 players when there is a clear handball option, I don't want players going up, giving him a pat on the back and telling him it's OK. Tell him its @#$%&! selfish and to stop trying to be a hero.
Same with Harry Dean. I love him as a player but giving away a double goal at a crucial stage is bullshit. It's no different to him trying to take a hanger a couple of weeks ago and giving away a free. He had no recriminations last time so why change? Its playing for your own glory or to satisfy your personal frustrations.
Whilst we accept these standards for not wanting to upset people, nothing changes.

How about we replace the board first mate


That’s on coaches Keogh. Not that I don’t think the board needs a refresh. The whole place is a mess.


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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2026 10:53 am 
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Blue vain wrote
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Ditch the zone defence.

A lot of teams are reverting to a man on man defensive structure and moving away from zones. The Saints largely employed it Saturday night.
The problem with zone defences is it gives players a chance to be lazy and unaccountable. And we've got more than our share who like to exploit it.
When is the last time you saw Weitering spoil a leading player outside defensive 50? He just doubles back and makes it someone else's problem. Compare that to a Harris Andrews or Sam Collins. It's their opponent and they want to beat them.


100%. We can't play a zone defense when oppo decided to go one on one. We obviously are very uncomfortable with one on one strategy. Probably because of a lack of conditioning. Why else would they not be able to adapt?

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Same with our midfielders and rucks. Twice on Saturday Pittonet filled space whilst his opponent took an easy mark within 30m of goal.


Our players don't like to have touch on their opponent when defending. That's 101 defending IMO. Forwards love to run and jump at the ball. Don't let them. See TDKs chest mark in square vs Reidy? Reidy didn't have any body pressure on TDK. No touch at all. Ball just fell in TDKs hands. WTF is that? Unaccountable footy.

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We make it far too easy for our players to hide in the bludge zone. "I'll just stand here, you pick up my player". Our captain excels at it.
@#$%&! that. Let's see some accountability. And let's see some expectation and demand of standards within the playing group.


A simple request BV. A simple solution. The interim coach may have to enforce accountability if Vossy continues with this zoning off, and corralling instead of bringing the heat. Almost feels like the players need to bring their mouthguards to training.

I watch Weiters opponent allowed to freely run out for a lead and as always Weiters has no hope of stopping him once he's off. What does Weiters do? Points to his team mate upfield, who has his opponent to mind, to ... ooops, too late... Weiters rethinks his instruction and asks his team mate to stand the mark. Where's the body contact? Standing with one foot infront of your opponent? The sense of intensity and desperation to defend? It becomes contagious, then the likes of Dean learn from Weiters bad habits, or is that defensive coaching that causes the separation? Whatever it is, it doesn't work.

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Whilst we accept these standards for not wanting to upset people, nothing changes.


Time for a few home truths. Call selfish players out. Get comfortable about being uncomfortable with direct home truths. Gosh, I thought that was instilled in players back in Bolton days. Do these players learn, or are they not being taught?

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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2026 10:59 am 
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How can you ask a team to show accountability on field where the club is run by people who show zero accountability


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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2026 11:18 am 
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keogh wrote:
How can you ask a team to show accountability on field where the club is run by people who show zero accountability

Players involving themselves in Club politics ? you must be kidding .

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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2026 11:31 am 
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We need to get Permission from the AFL to allow us to play the first half with our AFL Senior side, then Swap the Entire team in the second half with our VFL Team!!

I mean F**** me, I have run out of ideas... what can you do when a Team does the same thing 8 weeks in a Raw??

Surely this has to be Coaching... GET RID of Voss... Sack him you muppets... We are going to lose more Senior players because of him!


dude!!!! its the board!!!! its that damned pesky board!!!!!!



Which board? Not the Whiteboard again!!!!!!


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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2026 11:36 am 
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We are the only club in the last 25 years to not have a window to a premiership
Finish somewhere up the ladder to give us a shot at a flag
Gold Coast is the other but they have been in the comp since 2011
Thank god for The Bombers who have been shit for 20 years
New coach same shit
New CEO same shit
New Director of football same shit
New List Manager same shit
New Fitness boss same shit
What’s the one common denominator ?
After 5 years the board just nominates another of their cronies to replace the previous crony
So if you have a toxic workplace with no accountability it filters down the work chain
Nothing personal but that’s what happens
A quarter of a century of pure turd with an occasional sugar hit
And supporters still can’t see the origin of the problem


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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2026 11:41 am 
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keogh wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Ditch the zone defence.
A lot of teams are reverting to a man on man defensive structure and moving away from zones. The Saints largely employed it Saturday night.
The problem with zone defences is it gives players a chance to be lazy and unaccountable. And we've got more than our share who like to exploit it.
When is the last time you saw Weitering spoil a leading player outside defensive 50? He just doubles back and makes it someone else's problem. Compare that to a Harris Andrews or Sam Collins. It's their opponent and they want to beat them.

Same with our midfielders and rucks. Twice on Saturday Pittonet filled space whilst his opponent took an easy mark within 30m of goal.
We make it far too easy for our players to hide in the bludge zone. "I'll just stand here, you pick up my player". Our captain excels at it.
@#$%&! that. Let's see some accountability. And let's see some expectation and demand of standards within the playing group. If Cripps tries to take on 3 players when there is a clear handball option, I don't want players going up, giving him a pat on the back and telling him it's OK. Tell him its @#$%&! selfish and to stop trying to be a hero.
Same with Harry Dean. I love him as a player but giving away a double goal at a crucial stage is bullshit. It's no different to him trying to take a hanger a couple of weeks ago and giving away a free. He had no recriminations last time so why change? Its playing for your own glory or to satisfy your personal frustrations.
Whilst we accept these standards for not wanting to upset people, nothing changes.

How about we replace the board first mate



Yes, that will make us a better team.!! How many games this year will we win with a new board?


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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2026 11:44 am 
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Such a stupid comment
It’s not one year
5 years
10
It’s a quarter of a century mate
Answer this question if you want
Is that a decent sample space
Or does it have to be another 25 years before your puny brain finally gets it


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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2026 12:09 pm 
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Answer the question Keogh

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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2026 12:16 pm 
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windy wrote:
Answer the question Keogh

What’s the question?


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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2026 8:14 pm 
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keogh wrote:
windy wrote:
Answer the question Keogh

What’s the question?

:lol:


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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2026 10:09 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Ditch the zone defence.
A lot of teams are reverting to a man on man defensive structure and moving away from zones. The Saints largely employed it Saturday night.
The problem with zone defences is it gives players a chance to be lazy and unaccountable. And we've got more than our share who like to exploit it.
When is the last time you saw Weitering spoil a leading player outside defensive 50? He just doubles back and makes it someone else's problem. Compare that to a Harris Andrews or Sam Collins. It's their opponent and they want to beat them.

Same with our midfielders and rucks. Twice on Saturday Pittonet filled space whilst his opponent took an easy mark within 30m of goal.
We make it far too easy for our players to hide in the bludge zone. "I'll just stand here, you pick up my player". Our captain excels at it.
@#$%&! that. Let's see some accountability. And let's see some expectation and demand of standards within the playing group. If Cripps tries to take on 3 players when there is a clear handball option, I don't want players going up, giving him a pat on the back and telling him it's OK. Tell him its @#$%&! selfish and to stop trying to be a hero.
Same with Harry Dean. I love him as a player but giving away a double goal at a crucial stage is bullshit. It's no different to him trying to take a hanger a couple of weeks ago and giving away a free. He had no recriminations last time so why change? Its playing for your own glory or to satisfy your personal frustrations.
Whilst we accept these standards for not wanting to upset people, nothing changes.


Once again BV, you're on the money.

Zone defence is allowing the opposition to create and run us off our feet (and gives our players an out) Especially from a behind, the opposition tends to move the ball out of our forward 50 so easily.

Dean - love the kid, but he needs to curb his aggression, we've seen it twice already this year and it has led to him injuring himself.

And just on standards, Cottrell - he was clowning around a few weeks ago playing in the seconds, carrying on after each goal. Rather than being a leader and teaching the young kids to refocus after a goal he carries on like a clown.

Then the pat on the head was stupid - we are the laughingstock of the AFL and he's trying to be funny the way he kept going after the Saints player to pat him on the head. What have we achieved for him to carry on like a smartarse?

Whilst all the players looked dejected coming off after the Saints game he was talking to Kemp who gave him a smile and then pushed him away. This attitude typifies where we are as a club, mentally weak and not hungry enough. Not a good look when the supporters are hurting and seeing him laughing as he comes off the ground.


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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2026 12:39 am 
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I have not been a member for 20 years or so, but I have a genuine question in relation to the Board since they been brought up into the conversation.

How does one become a Board Member? Are they elected by the members? or the President only? or the CEO?

If we are unhappy with a Board member, how do we get rid of them? do they ever get sacked?

It just feels that some of our current Board members have been on there for 100 years. When do they ever get replaced?


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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2026 10:40 am 
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Go to Priestley thread


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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2026 12:16 pm 
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Out: Cripps (managed), Pittonet, Reidy, Dean (inj)
In: Hewett, Wilson, Moir, L Young

B: Saad, Weitering, Cowan
HB: O Florent, Haynes, Newman
C: Cottrell, Wilson, Carroll
HF: Z Williams, McGovern, Hayward
F: Ainsworth, L Young, Kemp
R: McKay, Hewett, Walsh

I: Cerra, Evans, Moir, Smith, O Hollands

Young's job is to tag Andrews everywhere he goes and make sure he never takes a mark. Harry only plays ruck, when he goes off Young goes to ruck then it's Kemp's job to tag Andrews.

O Hollands is the seventh defender.

Could have picked either Ison or F Young instead of Moir but I'd rather Ison and F Young learn to win in the VFL. Moir has a bit more experience and preseasons.

Could also have HoK to play L Young's role, but again would rather HoK learns to win in the VFL. Same for Cerra and Lord.


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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2026 1:01 pm 
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I have been pondering whether we should just pull all the kids back to the VFL and let them thrive in a winning culture where they can focus on a proper match plan, work on their skills and actually enjoy themselves.

We could aim for a VFL premiership and then the group could progress en masse into the AFL team with a winning culture.

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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2026 1:37 pm 
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Excellent, excellent, we're all on board the Almost Blues Brothers conspiracy train!


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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2026 2:40 pm 
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GodisNavyBlue wrote:
I have been pondering whether we should just pull all the kids back to the VFL and let them thrive in a winning culture where they can focus on a proper match plan, work on their skills and actually enjoy themselves.

We could aim for a VFL premiership and then the group could progress en masse into the AFL team with a winning culture.



Not the worst idea

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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2026 2:54 pm 
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the pressure the club and voss is under. hard to see it going on for much longer.

brisbane in brisbane. if they put us to the sword, it'd be ironic symmetery if it's voss' last game as a coach.


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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2026 2:58 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
If Cowan is out injured, Wilson comes in.
Boyd is trying but he’s past his best imo.

Reidy is a fkn passenger.
Watched TDK embarrass our club.
Get rid of him. Lucky his contract expires end of 2027.
Prefer Lewis Young!!!!! Or Harry in ruck.
WTF happened to Pitto in the ruck?
Obviously played injured or let TDK and Marshall have their way.

Mobile forwardline.
Targets Gov Kemp Cripps ( I know he’s not mobile, but competes on the floor.
Harry in the ruck, or CHB
He deflates the team with his shots at goal missing on the Casboult level.


WTF is Haywards role.
It’s not working Vossy. Get creative.
Get him involved.

Too many players running from forwardline to backline like headless chooks.
I get they fill holes, but the oppo is kicking 6-12 goals a quarter…so it’s not working.
Curious how many kms Hayward, Cottrell, Ollie, Carroll run and what they have to show for it.

Time out for Cripps in midfield. FMD. Selfish. Past his peak.
Hewett Walsh Ainsworth in middle.
Williams, Lord, Smith Cerra can wax.



Finally thanks Bondi Harry chb


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