messy with the ball. can't/ won't chase. and cannot defend.

a disaster.

Supporters like you have dementia, you can’t remember what point you’re trying to make from one post to the next, so you just tell everyone that they’re idiots, no matter what they post. If they post stuff that supports your previous post you just claim the opposite, or wilfully misunderstand or misrepresent what they say.

I don’t blame you if the club has driven you mad.

Love the way this game isn't even worthy of its own post match thread

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Fair call.

Bad kicking is bad football
Bad kicking is suicidal, hence “shooting ourselves in the foot”

I think the Game Plan has driven us and players mad. Once players start missing, the rest of the team goes missing.

Symptoms of missing goal opportunities. I get it.

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Yep it's still going ..... deep into the 5th quarter
We've all just about had enough

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I find it untraditional, let alone impossible to applaud players who have left us.

Saddened me to hear from both of our ex players for first time.

Classy response.

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Slap

Thanks Cru

Ive snapped out of my delusionment.

SOS and his old man ARE the enemy.

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This shows us how two rucks work.

Carlton didn’t have 2 rucks who could play forward. Now we don’t have any. Pitto scored his goals from ruck, not as a forward.

Sounds like you wouldn’t mind the Saints 2 rucks.

Cats shot themselves in the foot not footing the bill for Marshall. They are another team who has lost flags for lacking a bonafide No 1 ruckman.

Ruckmen are very important pieces of the puzzle. See how Swans changed when they got Grundy. Ask midfielders. Ask no 1 KPF how they feel when a ruckman with forward craft (able to mark or spoil) comes forward.

We must find a No 1 ruckman. A bonafide ruckman

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Goood. Let the hate flow through you.

I’m sure you aren’t feeling as bad as Cranium Doc.
Cranium expected better than what he is witnessing.

You expected the results we are witnessing thus far in 26.
Can see it clearly now at round 8: a bottom 4 finish.
You were serious. Good footy eye.

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We are desperate for a No 1 ruckman, and Harry to wax. Neeed to progress OKeefe.

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I feel your pain, we all do.
I usually stay to the end but I left about 10 mins into the last quarter and joined a huge crowd of Carlton supporters on Southern Cross station.
This seems to be the lowest point I can remember the club being in. Even worse than 2002. It is hard to see how we recover from this. Player retention has hurt us in recent years and I fear it will happen again at seasons end. With the Tassie team coming in another compromised draft coming up how do we improve?
I am glad this week is in Brisbane so I don't feel like I have to go.
What a depressing time to be a Carlton supporter.

Ollie Florent, ABC:



We're easy to play against. That's a worry.

I hope hes referring to the 2nd halves and not the Game Plan.

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Raised the white flag . Chucked in the towel . Can cop being beat if they have a go but sadly that was not the case against the Saints .

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Cranium is 48yo. He was only 7yo when we won in 1995 with the world of the Carlton powerhouse ahead of him. That's what makes me sad.

You have to do what you think is right for you.

I love the loyalty of the faithful. I have followed Sandringham and williamstown in the VFA when they were perennial cellar dwellers fighting to avoid relegation. Followed Willy week in week out when I lived in Western Suburbs, then moved to Hampton and followed sany when they weren't playing Willy. The relegation cup in the same year sorterd that out for me when I had a a team in Div 1, I loved, and the same in Div 2. Lose or lose, I was there.

Carlton never bottomed out. They usually won on the saturday. Maybe that's why I could handle defeat after defeat on Sundays

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Jacob Weitering on 3AW:



Skill deficiency is part of the problem. Deflating to have good periods of play breakdown because of skill. I watch (reluctantly) other teams, like Hawks, Pies, Brizzy...well, nearly all other teams in Top 14, and their skills stand up.

Why the fk do we draft/ trade in players lacking skills? Because they may come good like Kouta did? Dreaming. Start with skilled players and develop their game, not the other way around.

Didnt defend, means didn't try hard enough. Id their a motivation issue?

Maybe we change the coach (whenever) and tell players we are building our next team for a tilt at Finals in 2027-28, and deciding who we move on.

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He was 17 or 18 when we won in 95. Like me. Old enough to be a smart arse while on the ales. Lucky for me I'd moved to Sydney by then so no one cared enough to remember and make me live to regret it.

Is apathy worse than hate? I just don't care. I didn't like what I was watching in the third quarter so just turned it over to watch something else. I'm only on here because of habit. And I only listen to Prendercast as a hate-listen (once again, a habit).

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Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

RIP Charlie Kirk (was/were)

Without knowing the injury situation:

OUT:
Cowan (inj)

Dean (inj) - also, I know he'll be a decent footballer, but to my eyes he's been dead average this year. He played well this week for the period between the fights he started. Even if he wasn't injured I'd sent him to the seconds to develop his game.

Cripps - Voss is damned either way with Cripps. He either continues to back the guy in (which is a reasonable response - he's a genuinely great footballer) hoping for a better result (unlikely given that he rarely plays well against Brisbane because Dunkley has his measure), or he drops him and cops a lot of heat for ditching the skipper. Cripps is in bad form and the game has moved away from his strengths. Hopefully he can see that and can acknowkledge that he has to do *something*. I hope the something for Cripps is to swallow the bitter pill of playing VFL, ask to play full-forward with the occasional spell on the ball, and work at his craft.

Cerra - It's just not happening for Cerra at the moment. It feels like he needs a spell in the twos, a chance to play as the no. 1 guy in the midfield and get leather poisoning.

Weitering - Enough is enough with Weitering. It's a similar situation to Cripps, but less of an existential issue (in the sense that the game itself no longer suits Cripps strengths, but that's not the case with Weitering). He just needs to relearn how to play as part of the defensive system.

Reidy - I'm fairly convinced now that you can't play he and Pittonet in the same side.

Cottrell - Give him a chance to actually find some form on the wing in the seconds.

IN:
Hewett, Wilson, L. Young, Lord, F. Young, O'Keefe, Ison

Newman - L. Young - Haynes
Wilson - McKay - Saad
Florent - Hewett - Carroll
Ainsworth - McGovern - Hayward
F. Young - Kemp - Evans
Pittonet - Williams - Lord

Walsh - O'Keefe - Smith - Hollands - Ison

Rotate Hewett, Lord, Smith, Walsh, Williams, Florent, Hollands and Ainsworth through the centre square all day. Even give Wilson and Ison a CBA each quarter, just to mix it up. Carroll, Florent, Hollands and Walsh can rotate through the wing position.

F. Young plays deep and leads out the square. With a shorter forward line, put a ban on bombing it in and playing into Andrews hands.

O'Keefe plays second ruck, but also as a mostly defensive forward on Andrews to try and negate his influence.

McKay to CHB. Fly for your marks. Do to them what you hate. Bring the ball to ground and run off your opponent when you can. Find the fun in it. AFL history is full of players who didn't seem especially suited to defence who found a home there regardless.

Ison isn't 'ready' per-se; he's a ten-minutes-of-action kind of player. But he's got *something*, and I think the squad needs some positivity this week.

But if we make that many changes we are sure to lose.

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Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

RIP Charlie Kirk (was/were)