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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2026 9:44 am 
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Should be a separate thread but the Hollands investigation is turning into another shit show and it’s so predictable.
When nobody puts their hand up and takes ownership for what happened and people just want to cover their arse it drags out
Voss calls the media out
No fronting the media by Priestley and Cripps
So the club doctor takes leave
We don’t know when he will be back
He may appeal the findings of the investigation if they reflect badly on him
After initially saying they wanted a quick resolution the AFL now want to take their time in the investigation Chris Davies having too much of a say in the outcomes what a conflict of interest t
All this whilst the health of Elijah is the most important thing
Disgraceful and sadly all too predictable


Well , the Doctor's name is being dragged through the mud so its pretty natural that he is considering his options . And of course Davies is conducting the investigation as he is the Footy Manager . No doubt his findings will be questioned by the AFL and if they are not satisfied will take it further . Doubt there will be a Royal Commission mate .

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2026 9:44 am 
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Indeed, if the health of Elijah is the most important thing, why is it a bad thing that report is not being rushed? And even if they rush the report out, how will that help Elijah right now?
You mix so many disconnected topics up in the same post (often same sentence) it’s difficult to understand any of your points.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2026 9:58 am 
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sinbagger wrote:
Indeed, if the health of Elijah is the most important thing, why is it a bad thing that report is not being rushed? And even if they rush the report out, how will that help Elijah right now?
You mix so many disconnected topics up in the same post (often same sentence) it’s difficult to understand any of your points.

Yeah , and don't forget Ollie who is being portrayed as an uncaring brother by some which couldn't be further from the truth .

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2026 10:25 am 
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keogh wrote:
Should be a separate thread but the Hollands investigation is turning into another shit show and it’s so predictable.
When nobody puts their hand up and takes ownership for what happened and people just want to cover their arse it drags out
Voss calls the media out
No fronting the media by Priestley and Cripps
So the club doctor takes leave
We don’t know when he will be back
He may appeal the findings of the investigation if they reflect badly on him
After initially saying they wanted a quick resolution the AFL now want to take their time in the investigation Chris Davies having too much of a say in the outcomes what a conflict of interest t
All this whilst the health of Elijah is the most important thing
Disgraceful and sadly all too predictable



Really Keogh. You should keep your denigration to our on-field performances, as this rant just reflects poorly on you as a person.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2026 10:30 am 
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No offence but have you read the review? Do you know if anyone has taken responsibility? Do you know who actually is responsible. Why can't you wait for the release of the investigation before taking cheap shots and whinging?
I don't get it. Is it hurting you having to wait for the details? Or do you have a compulsive desire to kick the club on a daily basis and the delay is impacting your desire for negative fuel. FMD.

Seriously
The point I am making is why doesn’t anyone take ownership for it same old same story
Disgusting


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2026 10:30 am 
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carntheblues wrote:
keogh wrote:
Should be a separate thread but the Hollands investigation is turning into another shit show and it’s so predictable.
When nobody puts their hand up and takes ownership for what happened and people just want to cover their arse it drags out
Voss calls the media out
No fronting the media by Priestley and Cripps
So the club doctor takes leave
We don’t know when he will be back
He may appeal the findings of the investigation if they reflect badly on him
After initially saying they wanted a quick resolution the AFL now want to take their time in the investigation Chris Davies having too much of a say in the outcomes what a conflict of interest t
All this whilst the health of Elijah is the most important thing
Disgraceful and sadly all too predictable



Really Keogh. You should keep your denigration to our on-field performances, as this rant just reflects poorly on you as a person.

You just don’t get it


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2026 10:44 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
No offence but have you read the review? Do you know if anyone has taken responsibility? Do you know who actually is responsible. Why can't you wait for the release of the investigation before taking cheap shots and whinging?
I don't get it. Is it hurting you having to wait for the details? Or do you have a compulsive desire to kick the club on a daily basis and the delay is impacting your desire for negative fuel. FMD.


This!
Simple as this.
Its not ambiguous. Its spot on.

patience grasshopper.
potting the club with anything you can warp to make it relative to your agenda isnt sport.
Imabalanced comes to mind.

AFL is full of suits.
AFL Club Boards are full of suits.
That is never going to change. So don't judge a person by their suit.
Corporate world will tell you there's good suits and there's bad suits.
Just like there's good Principals and bad Principals.
Tarnishing everyone with the same brush is bombastic.

Fair suck of the Goal Flags.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2026 10:54 am 
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keogh wrote:
carntheblues wrote:
keogh wrote:
Should be a separate thread but the Hollands investigation is turning into another shit show and it’s so predictable.
When nobody puts their hand up and takes ownership for what happened and people just want to cover their arse it drags out
Voss calls the media out
No fronting the media by Priestley and Cripps
So the club doctor takes leave
We don’t know when he will be back
He may appeal the findings of the investigation if they reflect badly on him
After initially saying they wanted a quick resolution the AFL now want to take their time in the investigation Chris Davies having too much of a say in the outcomes what a conflict of interest t
All this whilst the health of Elijah is the most important thing
Disgraceful and sadly all too predictable



Really Keogh. You should keep your denigration to our on-field performances, as this rant just reflects poorly on you as a person.

You just don’t get it


Don't get what? I don't get it either.

Preistley and Cripps didn't front media, but, more importantly, Coach and CEO did.
Ollie, Ben and Chucky Hollands (3 mebers of Elijah's family) responded too.
How many Carlton people do you want addressing this very private matter?

From what I notice, you want too many and too much too soon.
You want a blow by blow Royal Commission and commentary from everyone to expose the truth.
Even a Royal Commission waits till the end of process before they release their findings.
You seem to want the media to release your findings/ assertions/ grievances/ guesses.
The truth will come out without the need for daily commentary. lets be pragmatic.

Lets get back to football.

Is it the players playing in wrong positions, weak players, an uninspiring Leadership group, or the Coach's Game Plan that doesn't work for us? It has nothing to do with Preistley. Are we improving in such small increments we fail to see, and change of fortune is just around the corner like in 2023?

I say keep Voss till at least round 16. Lets see where we are at then. Change is inevitable. This year or next?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2026 11:02 am 
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We agree to disagree


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2026 1:07 pm 
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keogh wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
No offence but have you read the review? Do you know if anyone has taken responsibility? Do you know who actually is responsible. Why can't you wait for the release of the investigation before taking cheap shots and whinging?
I don't get it. Is it hurting you having to wait for the details? Or do you have a compulsive desire to kick the club on a daily basis and the delay is impacting your desire for negative fuel. FMD.

Seriously
The point I am making is why doesn’t anyone take ownership for it same old same story
Disgusting


That's a fair question, but I htink you need to define "it".

This entire matter is too complex and covers too many areas for any single person to take "ownership", outside the AFL CEO.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2026 1:32 pm 
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It's a bad sign when the club doctor is taking leave.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 6:41 am 
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The media will get its pound of flesh
Regardless of whether anyone is at fault

Caro will feel sanctimonious and righteous

Everyone will wring their hands about poor Elijah but then move on to the next Kick Carlton topic.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 11:11 am 
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malbi wrote:
It's a bad sign when the club doctor is taking leave.

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Perhaps having his/her(?) name dragged through the mud was affecting their main business so they decided to put things on hold until the truth sets them free.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 11:31 am 
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https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-club-doctor-takes-leave-and-considers-legal-options-amid-investigation-into-elijah-hollands-case/news-story/8adcd765e5cddfac696da98ccc20bb30


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2026 11:33 am 
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GreatEx wrote:
malbi wrote:
It's a bad sign when the club doctor is taking leave.

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Perhaps having his/her(?) name dragged through the mud was affecting their main business so they decided to put things on hold until the truth sets them free.

:thumbsup:
Their professional integrity is being questioned by the media and the public looking to take someone down for something they have no idea about.
I'd be taking leave also.


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