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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 11:44 am 
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You can have an opinion, just like I'm allowed to disagree with it.

And if you want to go back the last 3 years, that is incorrect, last year yes, but not 2024 and in that time we have had a lot of injuries in a team with little depth.
We still have little depth and I am not saying coaching is not the issue also.
It has to be looked at it in its entirety.
But I just don't see the benefit in sacking coaches mid-season, sorry.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 11:47 am 
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FarmerBlue wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
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I just don't understand this approach.
We have been down this path many times and we have never had any good results other than a quick sugar hit, so why do people still want to do it?
The last one was Bolton, as a result we made Teague interim coach and look how that tuned out.
If the players all hated Voss and they got together as a group and spoke to GW, I get it.
If we had a premiership list that was just failing, I also get it.
But nobody is hearing that internally, in fact it is the complete opposite and our list is no where near a premiership list.
I just don't get why Carlton supporters want to drag us back to the way it has been that has kept us down for so long.
Let him coach the year out, see what he and the other coaches can do, see what players need to stay or be moved on.
Make all the moves in the last month of the year and publicly announce changes at the end of the season.
We are not making finals so it is a good time to go through the whole club and see what is missing.
For me on-field leadership is severely lacking, I have said this many times, we are missing senior players that come from premiership teams.
Weitering, Cripps and Walsh as good as they are, are seemingly just not good enough.


You are assuming my point and reasoning

It was wrong before because we had many issues and picked wrong people. What is choice now? Sit and do nothing and watch us get worse?

Voss has had 5 years at blues and 10 as a senior coach and nearly 20 years in coaching system. Seems obvious to me he isn't up to it

I don't see point of hanging on to him when it's obvious he won't be there next year and we are a bottom 4 side. We have played 1 top 8 side in the first 6 games and have won 1. Next month will really tell us a lot

I agree our list and leadership is lacking and needs to be addressed as well. this is more than one issue and i reckon GW has already made decisions anyway

I don't think I am.
You are saying to get rid of a coach mid season because you don't think he is up to it?
You say it was wrong before, how do you know it won't be wrong again?
Which assistant is going to rise from the ashes and be our saviour?
You say we are getting worse, I think the data suggests otherwise.
We just had the 5th hardest draw for the 1st six games, we lost game we should've won and we started off only playing 1 quarter and finished play the whole game bar 7min which is pretty much normal for most teams.
Our next 6 games are ranked 8th hardest and the following 6 are ranked 15th hardest IIRC.
We dropped one of our slow mids and it has changed our transition, we actually scored from transition last week.
Things are happening, changes are being made.
Yes we don't have the results yet, but you can't just look at as a win loss ratio and say we are getting worse.
If our 'players' converted easy shots on goal, this would not be a discussion.

And let's not make things up, Sydney in Sydney, Adelaide in Adelaide and Collingwood are all considered top 8 teams.
At the start of the season we all would've said 3-3 would be a great position for us after the first 6 rounds.


where did i mention saviour
we have beaten one top 8 side in nearly 3 years
people come up with reasons why we lost but we still lost, good side wouldn't have
the issue for me is we also play poorly.
pies arent a top 8 side for me
i think we have many issues but coach is one. my opinion is after 10 years he hasn't shown anything to say he can coach

but my apology for having the wrong opinion


No one says we're going well, but I also don't see the point in changing coach twice in the next 12 months. Give the players some stability, let Voss coach out the year, then make changes.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 11:53 am 
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Sidefx wrote:
You can have an opinion, just like I'm allowed to disagree with it.

And if you want to go back the last 3 years, that is incorrect, last year yes, but not 2024 and in that time we have had a lot of injuries in a team with little depth.
We still have little depth and I am not saying coaching is not the issue also.
It has to be looked at it in its entirety.
But I just don't see the benefit in sacking coaches mid-season, sorry.


Your opinion and you are allowed to it

i have mine but please dont tell me you know my opinion better than i do

Wright moved on Buckley in 21, had Harvey coach for rest of year and appointed Mccrae who won a flag within three years. change can be a positive thing and none of us know until it happens. or maybe you do?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 12:02 pm 
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FarmerBlue wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
You can have an opinion, just like I'm allowed to disagree with it.

And if you want to go back the last 3 years, that is incorrect, last year yes, but not 2024 and in that time we have had a lot of injuries in a team with little depth.
We still have little depth and I am not saying coaching is not the issue also.
It has to be looked at it in its entirety.
But I just don't see the benefit in sacking coaches mid-season, sorry.


Your opinion and you are allowed to it

i have mine but please dont tell me you know my opinion better than i do

I literally didn't do that.
So you are not saying sack the coach in season?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 12:07 pm 
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Sidefx wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
You can have an opinion, just like I'm allowed to disagree with it.

And if you want to go back the last 3 years, that is incorrect, last year yes, but not 2024 and in that time we have had a lot of injuries in a team with little depth.
We still have little depth and I am not saying coaching is not the issue also.
It has to be looked at it in its entirety.
But I just don't see the benefit in sacking coaches mid-season, sorry.


Your opinion and you are allowed to it

i have mine but please dont tell me you know my opinion better than i do

I literally didn't do that.
So you are not saying sack the coach in season?


it said i thought it would be a saviour. wrong

anyway just my opinion. didn't think a simple comment would stir so much emotion and attackes. i wont do it again. my apologies


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 12:14 pm 
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FarmerBlue wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
You can have an opinion, just like I'm allowed to disagree with it.

And if you want to go back the last 3 years, that is incorrect, last year yes, but not 2024 and in that time we have had a lot of injuries in a team with little depth.
We still have little depth and I am not saying coaching is not the issue also.
It has to be looked at it in its entirety.
But I just don't see the benefit in sacking coaches mid-season, sorry.


Your opinion and you are allowed to it

i have mine but please dont tell me you know my opinion better than i do

I literally didn't do that.
So you are not saying sack the coach in season?


it said i thought it would be a saviour. wrong

anyway just my opinion. didn't think a simple comment would stir so much emotion and attackes. i wont do it again. my apologies


Nah, keep posting, it's appreciated. Just don't wander into the Trump thread.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 12:15 pm 
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It’s common knowledge that Wright contacted mcCrae last year and enquired as to whether he wanted the job
I am just waiting for the
Is that a fact
How do you know
Your not involved with the club

I will tell you one thing
Wright is shit at lying


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 12:38 pm 
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keogh wrote:
Final thing from me because there is no point conversing with ignorant arrogant people
My partner has worked her whole life in mental health
It’s possible to enlighten those arrogant ones that Elijah may have a undiagnosed mental illness that has developed therefore he hasn’t been medicated
Who knows but you guys are so @#$%&! naive
Not your fault we all live in some cocoon
But your a plain stupid or blinded to think the club didn’t @#$%&! up
So to those posters
Get [REDACTED]


you must be bow legged from all that high horse riding...oh and my uncle owned a stud farm (no he didn't, but for me it works with the joke) so I know about horses.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 12:59 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
You can have an opinion, just like I'm allowed to disagree with it.

And if you want to go back the last 3 years, that is incorrect, last year yes, but not 2024 and in that time we have had a lot of injuries in a team with little depth.
We still have little depth and I am not saying coaching is not the issue also.
It has to be looked at it in its entirety.
But I just don't see the benefit in sacking coaches mid-season, sorry.


Your opinion and you are allowed to it

i have mine but please dont tell me you know my opinion better than i do

I literally didn't do that.
So you are not saying sack the coach in season?


it said i thought it would be a saviour. wrong

anyway just my opinion. didn't think a simple comment would stir so much emotion and attackes. i wont do it again. my apologies


Nah, keep posting, it's appreciated. Just don't wander into the Trump thread.


Or the Silvagni thread . I found out the hard way . Again .

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 1:11 pm 
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dannyboy wrote:
keogh wrote:
Final thing from me because there is no point conversing with ignorant arrogant people
My partner has worked her whole life in mental health
It’s possible to enlighten those arrogant ones that Elijah may have a undiagnosed mental illness that has developed therefore he hasn’t been medicated
Who knows but you guys are so @#$%&! naive
Not your fault we all live in some cocoon
But your a plain stupid or blinded to think the club didn’t @#$%&! up
So to those posters
Get [REDACTED]


you must be bow legged from all that high horse riding...oh and my uncle owned a stud farm (no he didn't, but for me it works with the joke) so I know about horses.


I watched a news report from the USA where the reporter( probably not FOX) was going around Trump rallies asking Trump supporters what do you think about what he has done here
The reply was he hasn’t done that. The reporter then had a iPad and showed a video of what Trump hasd done. They still denied it.
As George Carlin said
“ when your born into this world you get a free ticket to the freak show”


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 1:16 pm 
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FarmerBlue wrote:

it said i thought it would be a saviour. wrong

anyway just my opinion. didn't think a simple comment would stir so much emotion and attackes. i wont do it again. my apologies


Always enjoy your posts FB. Keep on keeping on. :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 1:18 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
sinbagger wrote:

Nah, keep posting, it's appreciated. Just don't wander into the Trump thread.


Or the Silvagni thread . I found out the hard way . Again .


Hang on - there’s a Trump thread…….oh I have to read this. :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 1:35 pm 
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FarmerBlue wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
You can have an opinion, just like I'm allowed to disagree with it.

And if you want to go back the last 3 years, that is incorrect, last year yes, but not 2024 and in that time we have had a lot of injuries in a team with little depth.
We still have little depth and I am not saying coaching is not the issue also.
It has to be looked at it in its entirety.
But I just don't see the benefit in sacking coaches mid-season, sorry.


Your opinion and you are allowed to it

i have mine but please dont tell me you know my opinion better than i do

I literally didn't do that.
So you are not saying sack the coach in season?


it said i thought it would be a saviour. wrong

anyway just my opinion. didn't think a simple comment would stir so much emotion and attackes. i wont do it again. my apologies

It's all good, it was a figure of speech not an assumed opinion.
keep the opinions coming, you do have a point about the wins though.
Not nearly enough over the top sides in the last couple of years, I do agree.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 1:36 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
sinbagger wrote:

Nah, keep posting, it's appreciated. Just don't wander into the Trump thread.


Or the Silvagni thread . I found out the hard way . Again .


Hang on - there’s a Trump thread…….oh I have to read this. :lol:


Do me a favour , don't . Dunno about you Suzz but when I go over some of my old stuff I wonder WTF was I thinking at the time . Everyone can have a bad day . Trouble there are a few on here that never forgive and never forget . I"m a never bear grudges and hold no malice sorta bloke myself .

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 2:19 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
For me, a grudge is where you pork your cor!


Do you live in Toorak GX ?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 2:52 pm 
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Key Carlton figures meet as pressure on Voss intensifies

Carlton's heavyweights caught up last week for a scheduled meeting to discuss the club's progress

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1502950/car ... chael-voss

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see there's that horse again

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 3:20 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
You can have an opinion, just like I'm allowed to disagree with it.

And if you want to go back the last 3 years, that is incorrect, last year yes, but not 2024 and in that time we have had a lot of injuries in a team with little depth.
We still have little depth and I am not saying coaching is not the issue also.
It has to be looked at it in its entirety.
But I just don't see the benefit in sacking coaches mid-season, sorry.


Your opinion and you are allowed to it

i have mine but please dont tell me you know my opinion better than i do

I literally didn't do that.
So you are not saying sack the coach in season?


it said i thought it would be a saviour. wrong

anyway just my opinion. didn't think a simple comment would stir so much emotion and attackes. i wont do it again. my apologies


Nah, keep posting, it's appreciated. Just don't wander into the Trump thread.


There's a Trump thread?

Stacks on!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2026 3:25 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
GreatEx wrote:
For me, a grudge is where you pork your cor!


Do you live in Toorak GX ?


Sounds more like Vaucluse or St Ives :wink:

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